Operation Gws

[plugger66]

Other clubs will chase 26-30yr olds Stkilda won't

Like Caddy?

[plugger66]

No idea what being a Saints fan means. Im sure when BJ was drafted by us that people thought if he ever did leave us it would be for Carlton.

Think it means if he was given a preference he would play with a team he followed...???

Ain't rocket science champ .....

Didnt BJ have a choice to play at any club? Seems to some it all to hard to understand. Roll roll roll.

[lloyd21]

We like everyone knows had a crack at Caddy you can't get them all and he would have great.
They got .

Roberton for nothing.

They could have got Young they could have got Lynch they could have got Rivers or Mcintosh didn't because they don't fit the list build surely you can see it .At least we have Pelchen Bains Elshaugh recruiting this build , mistakes will be made however if they recruit consistently the way they have last 2 years long term they will be good shape.

[gringo]

let's not forget their number one draft pick, both he and family massive Saint supporters, surely we could use that as an incentive to come to the club he and his family really loves.

Who's that Whitfield or Patton?

I think the general was, or maybe still is a Saints fan.

I know his sister and I asked her straight out if he would come home to the Saints and she said hopefully but wouldn't talk about it. Could be a good ambiguous answer.

I would look more at some of their spine who are still a little way off. Cameron will be a superstar, Mohr is an impressive mobile backman who will be fighting for a place with jakshe in a couple of years.

On Toby Green, he is the reincarnation of the young Ben Cousins, he will be elite soon as will bugg. I would be looking to raid them too.

[joffaboy]

Yes Patton, Greene, and Bugg will do.

I am sure we will get all three.

[plugger66]

We like everyone knows had a crack at Caddy you can't get them all and he would have great.
They got .

Roberton for nothing.

They could have got Young they could have got Lynch they could have got Rivers or Mcintosh didn't because they don't fit the list build surely you can see it .At least we have Pelchen Bains Elshaugh recruiting this build , mistakes will be made however if they recruit consistently the way they have last 2 years long term they will be good shape.

But you said we were in a great position to get young kids at GC and GWS because older players will be taken by other clubs. Caddy is young and from GC and as taken by another club. My point is we are no better position than any other club to get young guys and due to our aging list my actually be in a worse postion than some other clubs.

[lloyd21]

Ok let's make it real simple 2 words. Salary cap

Young players that want to come home will offered more than most Vic clubs. Because they are stuck with Salary cap next year.
Geelong only got Caddy because of the priority pick Saints could not get both they tried .

Look at the Melbourne clubs.....Hawthorn will have pay overs to keep Buddy. Pies. Thomas. Bombers paying for Goddard
Blues afl have said Juddy's Visy $ must be included in Cap.. If for example Will Hoskin Elliott says I am not renewing my contract and refuses to be traded which is his right and does not nominate for draft he can nominate contract terms for preseason draft.
All older players at saints 2014 will be on low $ or gone. If you don't agree fine ,but me I am rapt in everything the club is doing

[plugger66]

Ok let's make it real simple 2 words. Salary cap

Young players that want to come home will offered more than most Vic clubs. Because they are stuck with Salary cap next year.
Geelong only got Caddy because of the priority pick Saints could not get both they tried .

Look at the Melbourne clubs.....Hawthorn will have pay overs to keep Buddy. Pies. Thomas. Bombers paying for Goddard
Blues afl have said Juddy's Visy $ must be included in Cap.. If for example Will Hoskin Elliott says I am not renewing my contract and refuses to be traded which is his right and does not nominate for draft he can nominate contract terms for preseason draft.
All older players at saints 2014 will be on low $ or gone. If you don't agree fine ,but me I am rapt in everything the club is doing

Firstly if they nominate for the pre season draft then unless we finish bottom 3 or 4 then a good young player is likely to be gone by our pick so unless we are really poor this year then that way is out.

Then there is the trading but as you mentioned we missed out on Caddy because our pick wasnt good enough so again unless we finish in the bottom few we have as much hope as nearly everyone else in getting players. The problem we have is we cant trade because we dont really have tradable players. And yes I know the Swans got Tippett because of salary cap space so it is possible but I dont see why we are in a better position than many clubs.

I think like this year we may get one good player but it will get down to drafting which IMO is way ahead of improving our position ahead of trading.

[lloyd21]

Rapt the way the club is operating. End of story.

[plugger66]

Rapt the way the club is operating. End of story.

Im glad you are. I certainly have no issue with how the club is being run just pointing out that it isnt as easy as you think to get good nearly proven players from GWS and GC.

[gringo]

Yes Patton, Greene, and Bugg will do.

I am sure we will get all three.

We will probably get zero that's why i suggested looking at guys like Mohr- he's more likely to be tempted away for less dollars and suit needs. We should be able to draft in some mids to add to any of the ones we have that come on.

[bergholt]

Roberton for nothing.

We got Charlie Gardiner for nothing as well! How'd he turn out? Maybe we need to wait until they do something - or not - before crowing about how cheap they were.

[lloyd21]

No one is crowing it is list management not paying overs for players Dempster vs Goddard.


Hence why club is going this way

[joffaboy]

Roberton for nothing.

We got Charlie Gardiner for nothing as well! How'd he turn out? Maybe we need to wait until they do something - or not - before crowing about how cheap they were.

yeah but we also got Dempster as the steak knives in the Schneider deal, so swings and roundabouts.

[bergholt]

yeah but we also got Dempster as the steak knives in the Schneider deal, so swings and roundabouts.

Sure, whatever. But I reiterate - there's no point talking about the price we got someone for until you know that they're actually good.

[Middo]

No idea what being a Saints fan means. Im sure when BJ was drafted by us that people thought if he ever did leave us it would be for Carlton.

Think it means if he was given a preference he would play with a team he followed...???

Ain't rocket science champ .....

Didnt BJ have a choice to play at any club? Seems to some it all to hard to understand. Roll roll roll.

So Carlton made a play for BJ , or was salary cap an issue ..?