Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

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Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278410Post fugazi »

If he hits the gym and adds 3 -5 kg muscle....why can't he play FB.

Fast, aggressive, fit.........never seems to be considered, Simpkin, Dempster and Fisher are all 191cm.

Does he get pushed off too easily? Whats the problem?


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278424Post CURLY »

Some blokes simply dont play tall while other blokes play taller than there height.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278426Post doggerel »

Beau Dowler is a tad taller I think and already has the extra bulk. Has just finished a season playing FB for Sandy. PLayed pretty well I believe. Previoulsy taken as top 10 draft pick by Pelchen for Hawthorn and then he brought him our way. Perhaps that is a plan B or C?


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278448Post mad saint guy »

I totally agree that Gilbert should be groomed as a tall defender, in fact I thought it should've happened a few years ago. And Lyon seemed to think he should be groomed as a tall forward, but Gilbert didn't want to. It seems like he's a bit precious and only wants to be a running half back/wingman.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278453Post vacuous space »

No matter how tall he is, he's still more adept at running off player and chasing them down than he is at following them. Watters was supposedly trying him at FB last year and wound up moving Gilbert out of defence altogether.

Supposedly was trying Stanley back there and that never eventuated. Maybe now that Lee and Hickey are on board we'll try something like that.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278554Post plugger66 »

Sam Gilbert will not and should not play on tall big forwards.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278561Post barkerdaman »

i think gilbert would be purfect for the role with his agility and size ,always thought it would happened as he got older and stronger he reminds me a lot of maxie


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278566Post bigcarl »

Lacks upper body strength and plays smaller than he is. Very good below his knees for a tall guy but not particularly good above his head.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278570Post older saint »

You cannot put him in the back half as his disposal by foot is poor and turnovers there kill. He also has been exposed close to goal before
He finally played good footy on the wing, lets be happy with that


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278679Post BringBackMadDog »

older saint wrote:You cannot put him in the back half as his disposal by foot is poor and turnovers there kill. He also has been exposed close to goal before
He finally played good footy on the wing, lets be happy with that
Didn't stop Frawley or Hudghton from being club legends


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278688Post bobmurray »

Gilbert is a Saints legend......


unfortunately....................................he's rated a GOP at any other club...... :shock: :shock:


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

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doggerel wrote:Beau Dowler is a tad taller I think and already has the extra bulk. Has just finished a season playing FB for Sandy. PLayed pretty well I believe. Previoulsy taken as top 10 draft pick by Pelchen for Hawthorn and then he brought him our way. Perhaps that is a plan B or C?
pretty sure they are up to sum thing like this, maybe tippet brother or as you say dowler for fb.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278702Post bobmurray »

kimberly saint wrote:
doggerel wrote:Beau Dowler is a tad taller I think and already has the extra bulk. Has just finished a season playing FB for Sandy. PLayed pretty well I believe. Previoulsy taken as top 10 draft pick by Pelchen for Hawthorn and then he brought him our way. Perhaps that is a plan B or C?
pretty sure they are up to sum thing like this, maybe tippet brother or as you say dowler for fb.
why would you go on what the pelican thought..he's just an employee


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

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bobmurray wrote:
kimberly saint wrote:
doggerel wrote:Beau Dowler is a tad taller I think and already has the extra bulk. Has just finished a season playing FB for Sandy. PLayed pretty well I believe. Previoulsy taken as top 10 draft pick by Pelchen for Hawthorn and then he brought him our way. Perhaps that is a plan B or C?
pretty sure they are up to sum thing like this, maybe tippet brother or as you say dowler for fb.
why would you go on what the pelican thought..he's just an employee
drrrrrrrrrr because he is the messiah mate, he can deliver us anything and every thing . The sooner you become a believer the better


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278707Post saintbob »

kimberly saint wrote:
doggerel wrote:Beau Dowler is a tad taller I think and already has the extra bulk. Has just finished a season playing FB for Sandy. PLayed pretty well I believe. Previoulsy taken as top 10 draft pick by Pelchen for Hawthorn and then he brought him our way. Perhaps that is a plan B or C?
pretty sure they are up to sum thing like this, maybe tippet brother or as you say dowler for fb.
I Agree totally, Dowler and J Tippett would be in the mix


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278713Post clarky449 »

FB is a tough position. Cant just try and develop players into a FB position. From what ive seen with Gilbert, it would be a waste of time to develop him.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278717Post bobmurray »

kimberly saint wrote:
bobmurray wrote:
kimberly saint wrote:
pretty sure they are up to sum thing like this, maybe tippet brother or as you say dowler for fb.
why would you go on what the pelican thought..he's just an employee
drrrrrrrrrr because he is the messiah mate, he can deliver us anything and every thing . The sooner you become a believer the better
based on..what


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278731Post mr six o'clock »

Played his best footy running off half back in 2010 !
was average in 2011
But encouragingly his second half of 2012 was back to his 2010 form
hopefully he will be good in 2013

I think one on one he gets outbodied to easily !


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278735Post desertsaint »

mr six o'clock wrote:Played his best footy running off half back in 2010 !
was average in 2011
But encouragingly his second half of 2012 was back to his 2010 form
hopefully he will be good in 2013

I think one on one he gets outbodied to easily !
Yep.
Still waiting for him to fulfill his potential. If he does, and he needs confidence roaring, then we have a beauty. Fingers crossed.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

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mad saint guy wrote:I totally agree that Gilbert should be groomed as a tall defender, in fact I thought it should've happened a few years ago. And Lyon seemed to think he should be groomed as a tall forward, but Gilbert didn't want to. It seems like he's a bit precious and only wants to be a running half back/wingman.

Who would want to be a tall forward in a team coached by Lyon if their name is not Riewoldt or Pavlich?


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278966Post gringo »

I'm not sure that Gilbert will ever play tall. He just doesn't play that well as far as over head marking etc. His skill is in moving the ball forward as an oversized running back. He is like a 6'5" Farren or Gram. Simpkin would do better. If Dowler could get a mature rookie list spot he would be worth a punt but hard to see happening and possibly too old already.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278978Post borderbarry »

I rate Gilbert and Clarke on a par. Both have run and carry, both make blues.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

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borderbarry wrote:I rate Gilbert and Clarke on a par. Both have run and carry, both make blues.
One has shown that he can play at an AA level for a full two years, the other hasn't.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278988Post mad saint guy »

Saintersss wrote:
borderbarry wrote:I rate Gilbert and Clarke on a par. Both have run and carry, both make blues.
One has shown that he can play at an AA level for a full two years, the other hasn't.
It's not too bad of a comparison. Both rebounding defenders with major clanger issues. Gilbert has more athleticism and agility to get himself out of trouble. And his problem is that he tends to underthink the situation, rather than Raph who overthinks it.


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Re: Gilbert 194 cm and 90 kg

Post: # 1278990Post bobmurray »

mad saint guy wrote:
Saintersss wrote:
One has shown that he can play at an AA level for a full two years, the other hasn't.
It's not too bad of a comparison. Both rebounding defenders with major clanger issues. Gilbert has more athleticism and agility to get himself out of trouble. And his problem is that he tends to underthink the situation, rather than Raph who overthinks it.
Gilbert has been given another 3 years ....raph has been given... :shock:


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