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Talk about the Grand Final

Post: # 1266721Post Toy Saint »

Thought Hannaberry should have won the Norm Smith. He used the ball very well.

Goodes was very brave, tough in the first quarter, injured and battled, then lifted and inspired in the final quarter.

Sydney were lucky to get through with injuries to Mumford, Goodes and Richards.

The umpires were pretty good.

Substituting Mumford added much needed run in the last quarter.

Hawks have been good all year, but looked nervous on the big stage, both this week and last.


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Post: # 1266723Post whiskers3614 »

Guess the only 2 favourites in the last few years that haven't been beaten?
hint 2009/2010
Geelong choked 2008
Collingwood 2011
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Post: # 1266731Post Sainternist »

Gunston with the poster from a set shot from 25 will give him nightmares for years.
Toy Saint wrote:Substituting Mumford added much needed run in the last quarter.
A gutsy coaching move.


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Post: # 1266737Post kalsaint »

Toy Saint wrote:Thought Hannaberry should have won the Norm Smith. He used the ball very well.

Goodes was very brave, tough in the first quarter, injured and battled, then lifted and inspired in the final quarter.

Sydney were lucky to get through with injuries to Mumford, Goodes and Richards.

The umpires were pretty good.

Substituting Mumford added much needed run in the last quarter.

Hawks have been good all year, but looked nervous on the big stage, both this week and last.
I know the umps let things go in finals but a free kick rate of 21 to 10 Hawtorn's way wasnt actually representative in my mind.

Swan's won the game around clearances and tackle count (110) that made the Hawks make mistakes and not kick well (including at goal). They outmarked and controlled more of the play although much of this was in the Hawtorn forward half. Turnovers and pressure mistakes let Swans to an open forward line. Well coached Longmire.


Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.

You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
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Post: # 1266739Post bobmurray »

Sainternist wrote:Gunston with the poster from a set shot from 25 will give him nightmares for years.
Toy Saint wrote:Substituting Mumford added much needed run in the last quarter.
A gutsy coaching move.
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Post: # 1266742Post SainterK »

Actually thought Guerra was a big loss.

That first kick out of defence is what initiates the Hawks scoring chain.

They put a lot of work into Birchall...nobody really created much off the backline.


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Post: # 1266745Post thejiggingsaint »

A belter of a game. 1st quarter was an arm wrestle, but it just got better and better as the day went on. Two sides giving their all, in a thriller. Well done to both clubs!


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Did anyone else find it eerie seeing John Kennedy Sr walking around after the game?

He was like a ghost of the past. Still wearing that same trench coat.


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Post: # 1266782Post st_Trav_ofWA »

I felt hawthorn thought they had it in the bag after the first qtr the chase and the dedication was not what it was for the second qtr .. Said to my wife at half time after the hawks went goalless that Syd would win ... You just cannot afford to not score a goal in a qtr in the GF and expect to win


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st_Trav_ofWA wrote:... You just cannot afford to not score a goal in a qtr in the GF and expect to win
Too true. Final quarter of 2009 immediately springs to mind :(


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Post: # 1266801Post kosifantutti »

Sainternist wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:... You just cannot afford to not score a goal in a qtr in the GF and expect to win
Too true. Final quarter of 2009 immediately springs to mind :(
Collingwood 3rd quarter 2010. Sydney 3rd quarter 2005.


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Post: # 1266803Post saintsRrising »

Sliding door moments:


Ball bounces on for Jack to gather and goal. Swans win.

Ball bounces at right angles away from Milne. Saints win.
(and we won't mention that punch from Zac or the toe poke from Scarlett that both could have gone anywhere......)


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Post: # 1266832Post saintspremiers »

What about the crowd size?

With the reno of the GSS, capacity was down a few hundred and
It was only 400 off 100,000!

Huge credit to the MCC filling up the members. They don't have to allow restricted members access but they did, and full stadium was the result.

Big numbers of Swines supporters at the ground also.


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Post: # 1266833Post saintspremiers »

saintsRrising wrote:Sliding door moments:


Ball bounces on for Jack to gather and goal. Swans win.

Ball bounces at right angles away from Milne. Saints win.
(and we won't mention that punch from Zac or the toe poke from Scarlett that both could have gone anywhere......)
Cut the stuff about the Milne bounce. There was 90 seconds left on the clock. Anything could've happend!


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Post: # 1266835Post matrix »

great game
actually really enjoyed watching it

another side misses too many shots at goal and a grannie goes begging

swans played well
congrats

wonder if boltons going around again?


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Post: # 1266839Post 3rd generation saint »

Thought Rioli was well held, and played really poorly.
He was one of the catalysts for their 2008 win, couldn't touch it yesterday.


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Post: # 1266841Post matrix »

birchell as well
i reckon i saw him get a run on from the back flank once maybe twice yesterday


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Post: # 1266848Post spert »

That game just proved to me that Goodes is the man who gets them going- the most important player in that team..did a number of smart things at the right time, just when the Hawks were looking good. I also reckon we need to work on our midfield after looking at those two teams yesterday- intensity, clean clearance work, good disposal.


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Post: # 1266854Post gringo »

3rd generation saint wrote:Thought Rioli was well held, and played really poorly.
He was one of the catalysts for their 2008 win, couldn't touch it yesterday.

Rioli is the most over hyped player in the comp. Looks stylish with his 12 disposals a game but rarely dominates-excepy against us this year. Lewis jetta on the other hand is a gun he is a genuine game breaker- run and carry, long goals sets up play and closes into space. I had my doubts on him early on but he's a beauty. Hopefully Milera can become a similar player, both have the same kind of height and speed and Jetta is still slight. He should model his game on the Jet.


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Post: # 1266861Post Megsie »

Hawks arrogant sniping frauds.
Sydney financially propped up for 30years by afl.
Needed to fulfil their benevolent duty do win a another GF


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Sydneys handball skills are way better than any other club they can be swamped by other players
but can still handball to get it cleared


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Post: # 1266870Post SaintPav »

Hawks could have helped their cause by trying to shut down O'Keefe.


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Post: # 1266889Post Spud »

matrix wrote:great game
actually really enjoyed watching it

another side misses too many shots at goal and a grannie goes begging

swans played well
congrats

wonder if boltons going around again?
Both he and Goode's said they will definitely be back next year.


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Post: # 1266897Post gringo »

Sydney remind me of the Saints, they do it the hard laborious way. No easy gains just grind out the win. LRT is actually a decent player these days and reminds me of Gilbert, if Gilbo can get himself back to that level we will be a much better team.


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Post: # 1266921Post 8856brother »

Hawks smashed them in the contested possessions and clearances. I mean really smashed them when you look at th stats. Normally a good indication. Not yesterday. Great gutsy win. Brings back some shocking mempries though. Used to love GF day. Don't enjoy watching them any more.

Hope time heals. :cry:


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