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Kosi is as good as any second forward a AFL clubs got at present. Love his work in the air and Im sure the small forwards love having Kosi in the side.
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Before Rhys and Ben went down Kos was kiling 'em as a crash and bang FF and his accuracy means he doesn't need a lot of touches to be dangerous.
Wilkes can only play if we need a back up forward/ruckman. I love Watters game plan and the balance b/w attack and defence. I'm not so sure that he and the match committee have the balance right when all our talls are available.
My only concern is that we don't bring in Stanley too early and when he comes good, Kosi and Stanley and Macca in the same team makes us slow. If Stanley is in ripping form perhaps he stays because he's the quickest by far, but Kosi goes out or Macca out.
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I don't understand the hatred of Wilkes. He looks pretty bad away from goal but he makes his way to contests even when he doesn't win the contest. Kosi doesn't, Kosi is a very good player on his day but can go missing as well. The three talls worked well today despite not slotting gettable ones. Against some teams that set up works others it would be a bad move. The Dogs actually have been handy around the ground this season but can't muster goals from their forwards. We dominated them to the point where they didn't even get any of the ball by the end so I think it was our mids that put on a vintage display with no real passengers. It help taking Cross and Cooney out but they are far from terrible even still.
It was a day I felt we were flat for large portions of the game and did enough to bully them without expending too much. Stanley is showing glimpses but if people think he's already arrived and Wilkes is miles behind they are dreaming. On future potential we want games into Rhys but seriously some guys get their stocks raised the less we see them. I hope he's another gun Sainter and the potential is there but it is a certainty.
Wilkes contests well & does well defensively. Not anywhere near as bad as some of you make out & an important fit in the structure when we have Stanley out. When Stanley is fit - you would expect Wilkes to be the obvious out.
wilkes was/is f****** hopeless......not an afl standard footballer...imho.....as i have said on at least three occasions......must have something very incriminating on the coach....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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BigMart wrote:Good thing Watters is a better judge than the peanut gallery....
He is a very good state league player.... Possibly the best fwd in the VFL
He is a OK back up tall fwd at AFL level..... .
i would defer to the coach who must know more than me but maybe he is just hoping for a miracle......might be a very good vfl player......but is not up to afl standard imho......something the eagles seem to have worked out pretty quickly......everything he did today he eventually f***ed up...including the resultant very poor kicking for goal after he had taken a mark......not an okay back up when you are leaving players like rae and sipposs out of the team.......disgraceful even....
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BigMart wrote:Good thing Watters is a better judge than the peanut gallery....
He is a very good state league player.... Possibly the best fwd in the VFL
He is a OK back up tall fwd at AFL level..... .
i would defer to the coach who must know more than me but maybe he is just hoping for a miracle......might be a very good vfl player......but is not up to afl standard imho......something the eagles seem to have worked out pretty quickly......everything he did today he eventually f***ed up...including the resultant very poor kicking for goal after he had taken a mark......not an okay back up when you are leaving players like rae and sipposs out of the team.......disgraceful even....
stinger wrote:not an okay back up when you are leaving players like rae and sipposs out of the team.......disgraceful even....
are you seriously attempting to compare ray with wilkes? they're completely different players! could ray come in and play as a tall forward helping out mcevoy in the ruck? if not - why bother mentioning them in the same breath?
Fazer wrote:Why was Kosi not played in the ruck - is he carrying an injury
nope. watters said in his press conference that kosi's ability as a forward is negatively affected by spending time in the ruck, so until stanley gets back they want another backup ruck option so kosi can stay forward.
stinger wrote:not an okay back up when you are leaving players like rae and sipposs out of the team.......disgraceful even....
are you seriously attempting to compare ray with wilkes? they're completely different players! could ray come in and play as a tall forward helping out mcevoy in the ruck? if not - why bother mentioning them in the same breath?
stinger wrote:not an okay back up when you are leaving players like rae and sipposs out of the team.......disgraceful even....
are you seriously attempting to compare ray with wilkes? they're completely different players! could ray come in and play as a tall forward helping out mcevoy in the ruck? if not - why bother mentioning them in the same breath?
because he's got an obsessive dislike for Wilkes.
but frowns upon Raph Clarke bashers.
hypocrisy, plain and simple
Differenceis that Wilkes is an out and out ordinary player. Raph at least had potential and this is the thing that frustrated so many Saints supporters. He played some absolute blinders and then backed it up with some absolute shockers.
Wilkes plays shockers then backs it up with a worse display.
Lance or James??
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joffaboy wrote:
Differenceis that Wilkes is an out and out ordinary player. Raph at least had potential and this is the thing that frustrated so many Saints supporters. He played some absolute blinders and then backed it up with some absolute shockers.
Wilkes plays shockers then backs it up with a worse display.
It's not Raph's potential that frustrated me. More so his major c**k-ups which I believe are infectious and very disheartening for those playing beside him. Both ordinary players, Raph's never been anything else.
Beside the point anyway. You can't call supporters "disgusting" one minute, then do exactly as they do the next to another player; and expect to be taken seriously..
even i'l admit it, Kosi played well and deserves his spot next week.
But i am yet to see him play 2 good games in a row, really needs to go hard again this week, Kosi may just be the key to beating collingwood.
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Wilkes plays as a tall forward and compliments the other two as he plays different to either of them. Three key forwards are very hard to play on for most teams. He isn't there yet but he should be given a couple of weeks on the trot to see what he can do. Siposs has years left and offers more around the ground but scott must have some structure that he wants created. Probably to practice the game style for when stanley comes back
joffaboy wrote:
Differenceis that Wilkes is an out and out ordinary player. Raph at least had potential and this is the thing that frustrated so many Saints supporters. He played some absolute blinders and then backed it up with some absolute shockers.
Wilkes plays shockers then backs it up with a worse display.
It's not Raph's potential that frustrated me. More so his major c**k-ups which I believe are infectious and very disheartening for those playing beside him. Both ordinary players, Raph's never been anything else.
Beside the point anyway. You can't call supporters "disgusting" one minute, then do exactly as they do the next to another player; and expect to be taken seriously..
Are you sure about Raph Beekay? Agree he is frustrating but Joffa is right, he has played some blinders and along with Roo was responsible for getting us over the line in the 09 prelim. He was the only one who gave us any drive out of the backline that night and i'm almost certain it was crucial that night. He also played a pretty good first up final. We'll forget about the GF.
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