Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Well, the good news is we are still winning without BJ having a massive impact. So if does go, it won't be huge for us as things stand right now. Early draft picks is something this club hasn't had in 10 years. Will make trade week very interesting if nothing else
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
I think he's probably going, which is unfortunate. The money on offer will be astronomical. It could be up to $300,000 higher than our best offer.
But he can play a massive part in the rest of the season.
And while he could play football at a high level until the age of 32, he will be 28 next year.
If we can secure a top five pick and a top 15 pick, that could position us to secure some genuine talent in the years to come. I'd definitely think about it.
But he can play a massive part in the rest of the season.
And while he could play football at a high level until the age of 32, he will be 28 next year.
If we can secure a top five pick and a top 15 pick, that could position us to secure some genuine talent in the years to come. I'd definitely think about it.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
I think it's okay for us to think about it but I'm not sure that's how it will play out in real life.evertonfc wrote:I think he's probably going, which is unfortunate. The money on offer will be astronomical. It could be up to $300,000 higher than our best offer.
But he can play a massive part in the rest of the season.
And while he could play football at a high level until the age of 32, he will be 28 next year.
If we can secure a top five pick and a top 15 pick, that could position us to secure some genuine talent in the years to come. I'd definitely think about it.
I reckon the Saints want to hang on to BJ and will make an offer based on his ability to play the game and our ability to fit everyone into the salary cap. And assuming GWS do actually still want him and that they are prepared to throw the farm at him, yes their offer is likely to be well in excess of ours and will be extremely tempting.
My view is that if Goddard goes it will be due to the club's inability to offer him enough while at the same time acting in a financially responsible manner. I'm not sure it will be because we think the "losing him" option is the better option.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Get a decent ruck and a reasonable mid if he goes.
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Not sure he said anything then that he hasn't already articulated.
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Not sure he said anything then that he hasn't already articulated.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
+1Legendary wrote:Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
Feel sorry for the bloke. If you were asked the same question 100 times, you would try and find some different words to express the same sentiment ... in BJ's case it doesn't matter what he says, the media and St Kilda supporters pounce on him.
He's a great footballer and has been fantastic for the Saints. We would never have drawn a GF if it wasn't for this bloke. How about his courage in the '09 GF when he got smashed and kept playing?
Bit of respect for the position that he is in would be nice.
Stay or go, the Saints and BJ will both will come out of it well.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
MrCordz wrote:In any negotiation, you lose if you let your intentions known. Goddards management will be telling him to say nothing regardless of his feelings toward the saints. I hope he stays - I heard the interview and am split in my thughts whether he will stay or go. Either way he's played it well.
I don't mind if he goes to GWS. two round 1 compensation picks is fine by me. I would hate for him to go to Freo, or Carlton
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Is he really THAT good? I don't think he is elite by any means. He's probably a good ordinary player or just above that. I think we can easily cover him.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Yes he is really that good...
In the top handful of players in the comp, without doubt..
In the event that he does go, and we get 2 first rounders, how do we activate them, and can we use them in this years draft, seeing as it is being touted a 'super draft', and trade week is before draft week?
In the top handful of players in the comp, without doubt..
In the event that he does go, and we get 2 first rounders, how do we activate them, and can we use them in this years draft, seeing as it is being touted a 'super draft', and trade week is before draft week?
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
The AFL have advised that regarless of the player, they will only award 1 draft pick as compensation, for a player who leaves as a result of free agency.
What number draft pick is determined by the 'eliteness' of the player who leaves. In our case, we would be looking at 1 very early draft pick, but that is all.
What number draft pick is determined by the 'eliteness' of the player who leaves. In our case, we would be looking at 1 very early draft pick, but that is all.
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Goddard aint worth more than 600k. Ablett is worth 1-1.2m (under a normal club salary cap), and he is at least twice the player Goddard is.
Would love to keep him, but wouldn't blame him if he left for a 5 mil contract.
Personally think Jack Steven is currently a better player and believe the gap will continue to stretch.
(Also think Dal Santo, Hayes, Riewoldt, Fisher are equal to or better than BJ currently)
Would love to keep him, but wouldn't blame him if he left for a 5 mil contract.
Personally think Jack Steven is currently a better player and believe the gap will continue to stretch.
(Also think Dal Santo, Hayes, Riewoldt, Fisher are equal to or better than BJ currently)
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
If you can't retain gun players, then you dont win premierships, and this club has a long history of losing gun players, and trading for hacks. Goddard should be a priority to retain. He could go to GWS and set himself up for life, but would never play in another premiership in his AFL career- at least Ablett can look at the silverware while he counts his money.
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
paddy wrote:The AFL have advised that regarless of the player, they will only award 1 draft pick as compensation, for a player who leaves as a result of free agency.
What number draft pick is determined by the 'eliteness' of the player who leaves. In our case, we would be looking at 1 very early draft pick, but that is all.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/o ... 1uyiy.html
"Any club that loses an elite player will receive a maximum of one first-round draft pick, not the two early picks Geelong and Melbourne received for losing Ablett and Scully to expansion teams."
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
My view also. No way I'd be paying enormous coin off a handful good games and a goof GF FFS Hayes does it weekly!!tony74 wrote:It will all come down to $$$. The club want to keep Goddard but they dont rate him anywhere near the echelon that some of the media do. Apart from a pocket of brilliant games towards the end of the 2010 season they rate him nowhere near the hysteria some commentators have. So in a nutshell if another club offers him big biccies our club wont match it. He does want to stay however. Dont ask me how I know
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Off course he is that good.....the doubters come out if he doesn't totally dominate every single match, because of the standard he set - it's like they're looking for fault IMO.Sobraz wrote:Yes he is really that good...
In the top handful of players in the comp, without doubt..
In the event that he does go, and we get 2 first rounders, how do we activate them, and can we use them in this years draft, seeing as it is being touted a 'super draft', and trade week is before draft week?
I don't think he will leave the Saints.
Don't know the rules about activating compensation DP.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
We could still lose him to GWS though without using the free agency rules, which would then surely give us the 2 picks like Melbourne and Geelong.paddy wrote:paddy wrote:The AFL have advised that regarless of the player, they will only award 1 draft pick as compensation, for a player who leaves as a result of free agency.
What number draft pick is determined by the 'eliteness' of the player who leaves. In our case, we would be looking at 1 very early draft pick, but that is all.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/o ... 1uyiy.html
"Any club that loses an elite player will receive a maximum of one first-round draft pick, not the two early picks Geelong and Melbourne received for losing Ablett and Scully to expansion teams."
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
this. if goddard goes it will be to GWS, where they can offer some serious coin. i dont think the other clubs have the cap to get him.dragit wrote:We could still lose him to GWS though without using the free agency rules, which would then surely give us the 2 picks like Melbourne and Geelong.paddy wrote:paddy wrote:The AFL have advised that regarless of the player, they will only award 1 draft pick as compensation, for a player who leaves as a result of free agency.
What number draft pick is determined by the 'eliteness' of the player who leaves. In our case, we would be looking at 1 very early draft pick, but that is all.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/o ... 1uyiy.html
"Any club that loses an elite player will receive a maximum of one first-round draft pick, not the two early picks Geelong and Melbourne received for losing Ablett and Scully to expansion teams."
thankfully we are in the drivers seat on this one. theres a super draft coming up, we lose him to GWS, we get 2 first rounders and get the chance to pick up 2 quality kids regardless of where we fall during the year. add the normal first rounder and we have a really good opportunity to rebuild. if we can shed another player thats replaceable for a early 2nd rounder then were in a very very good position to rebuild.
if goddard stays then we have a quality player with another 3-4 years of football minimum left in him.
win-win.
club before player.
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
BJ sounded more like he was staying than going.
Typical media pull out snippets for "news breaks"
& to hell with the context in which it is spoken.
Herald/sun only wrote HALF of the milne article
as published by the OPI on their site...hmmmmmmmm
maybe hs could ask Mr. Malthouse if he would like to
make a "public apology" to our Milney.
Typical media pull out snippets for "news breaks"
& to hell with the context in which it is spoken.
Herald/sun only wrote HALF of the milne article
as published by the OPI on their site...hmmmmmmmm
maybe hs could ask Mr. Malthouse if he would like to
make a "public apology" to our Milney.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Which is not quite the same as "I'm staying here"The Fireman wrote:Lockett once said "I'm here to stay"
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are you a solicitor ?Dr Spaceman wrote:Which is not quite the same as "I'm staying here"The Fireman wrote:Lockett once said "I'm here to stay"
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
BJ has one contract offer from saints and one from GWS on the table. He is in the process of "deciding" reality is the longer the decision takes the mre chance he is of leaving. This is fact.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
People say that it will be a win win if he goes and it might be but in the short term we will take a big hit if he goes. I don't rate BJ as a super star but that doesn't mean that he's not important to our team. I can't count how many times I looked around the ground and saw him on his own directing traffic and helping set up plays in the back half. I liked seeing that. If he goes we'll certainly feel it. I really hope he stays.
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Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
Hear the interview;
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... ddard/4771
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... ddard/4771
Some time soon.
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
he did get a bit rattled about the contract talk, first time ive heard him get that rattled by it
Re: Goddard on SEN, what did he say?
andrewg wrote:BJ has one contract offer from saints and one from GWS on the table. He is in the process of "deciding" reality is the longer the decision takes the mre chance he is of leaving. This is fact.
Like the other 4 or 5 things you said as fact that turned out to be pretty poor fiction?