Roo's 3qrt time dummy spit and follow on affect

[saint6709]

I saw it and they talked about it (finney) on SEN this morning - the pass was not on - there was a man closing from behind who Roo probably didn't see - Milera should have shot from there and he should have goaled - but plenty of others missed from 40 and under last night -- pretty sure Roo will apologize to Milera when he sees the footage - Not sure why it has to turn into a slinging match - Roo is a champ - our young kids have been terrific - Roo made what I see as a bad call in the heat of battle - great game - go saints

[Dr Spaceman]

I saw it and they talked about it (finney) on SEN this morning - the pass was not on - there was a man closing from behind who Roo probably didn't see - Milera should have shot from there and he should have goaled - but plenty of others missed from 40 and under last night -- pretty sure Roo will apologize to Milera when he sees the footage - Not sure why it has to turn into a slinging match - Roo is a champ - our young kids have been terrific - Roo made what I see as a bad call in the heat of battle - great game - go saints

Roo made a bad call but you've made a good call about his bad call

[dcstkfc]

I reckon Roo has improved his body language a lot this year, and he is often the first to get to Terry after a goal.

Roo is an intense character, and this can be counter-productive at times as he has been known to voice his displeasure at the poor decisions of others, but there is an undercurrent of hatred in this thread towards one of the greatest players in our club's history that is really disturbing.

The players voted him captain for a reason. He leads by example, and his passion lifts the team more than it brings the team down.

[Quixote]

Biggest non-issue of all time.

People don't mention Rooey going to Milera at the start of the 4th giving him encouragement.

Plus if you watch the game again you'll see many poor decisions made in that forward line - and many times Riewoldt left frustrated standing by himself.

Absolute non-issue.

Love Saad but also get the feeling he loves a Saad goal

Milera is almost always at pains to dish off.

Also with the amount of shots we were missing / how far we were in front to how far we should of been, I think Roo was probably just wanting to make sure we didn't drop a game we were dominating!

[Thinline]

Absolutely a non issue. We kicked 15 points and we've been undisciplined lots this year. Our captain was being intense. Who gives a fig if that 'looks' bad. Bloody hell.

[sainterinsydney]

Rooey couldn't hit the back of a barn last night--probably good Milera didn't pass it to him.

[hAyES]

If anyone has wondered why we've been such a Riewoldt conscious team lately there's the reason. That kick he wanted from Milera wasn't even on and he still copped a serve for it. He needs to get that out of his game because it's not all about Nick anymore.

[Dr Spaceman]

Big deal.

We missed 6 in the 2nd quarter and another 7 in the 3rd, including Milera's. 

I'm sure if our blokes had been slotting them Roo wouldn't have given a continental.

It's an emotional game and Nick got emotional.  That's all.

[resaintlee]

I see this as much less an issue than BJ's attitude of late. No matter where he is he is pressuring for the ball and when he has it he tends to ignore the bottom 12 and make an often costly attempt to pass to a name rather than a player. Reminds me a bit of kicking end to end at primary school when you get the ball only to have the tough kid say "give it to me (or else...)"
His head doesn't seem to be in the right place at the moment and his diposals were too often disappointing.

[joffaboy]

Big deal.

We missed 6 in the 2nd quarter and another 7 in the 3rd, including Milera's. 

I'm sure if our blokes had been slotting them Roo wouldn't have given a continental.

It's an emotional game and Nick got emotional.  That's all.

Waddya mean big deal?

It was the reason we ended up losing the game and with it any chance of playing finals this year.

Dont you realise how much of an issue this is?

Almost as big as bj not singing the song exactly right.

BOTH HUGE

[Quixote]

Big deal.

We missed 6 in the 2nd quarter and another 7 in the 3rd, including Milera's. 

I'm sure if our blokes had been slotting them Roo wouldn't have given a continental.

It's an emotional game and Nick got emotional.  That's all.

Waddya mean big deal?

It was the reason we ended up losing the game and with it any chance of playing finals this year.

Dont you realise how much of an issue this is?

Almost as big as bj not singing the song exactly right.

BOTH HUGE

The sky is falling!! Panic!! EMERGENCY!!!!

[magnifisaint]

Biggest non-issue of all time.

People don't mention Rooey going to Milera at the start of the 4th giving him encouragement.

Plus if you watch the game again you'll see many poor decisions made in that forward line - and many times Riewoldt left frustrated standing by himself.

Absolute non-issue.

Love Saad but also get the feeling he loves a Saad goal

Milera is almost always at pains to dish off.

Also with the amount of shots we were missing / how far we were in front to how far we should of been, I think Roo was probably just wanting to make sure we didn't drop a game we were dominating!

Dead right!
What's this thread about?

[perfectionist]

...What's this thread about?

Ignorance.

[Teflon]

I see this as much less an issue than BJ's attitude of late. No matter where he is he is pressuring for the ball and when he has it he tends to ignore the bottom 12 and make an often costly attempt to pass to a name rather than a player. Reminds me a bit of kicking end to end at primary school when you get the ball only to have the tough kid say "give it to me (or else...)"
His head doesn't seem to be in the right place at the moment and his diposals were too often disappointing.

Exactly what I also saw

He looks slow and disinterested and his so called precision disposal is ordinary right now. Good luck to him if he wants to go get picks

[Con Gorozidis]

I see this as much less an issue than BJ's attitude of late. No matter where he is he is pressuring for the ball and when he has it he tends to ignore the bottom 12 and make an often costly attempt to pass to a name rather than a player. Reminds me a bit of kicking end to end at primary school when you get the ball only to have the tough kid say "give it to me (or else...)"
His head doesn't seem to be in the right place at the moment and his diposals were too often disappointing.

i do notice a tendency for lenny bj milney and joey to always pass to each other even when someone else is in a better position to receive.

[Con Gorozidis]

This all seems ridiculous to me

I didn't see it but if Roo was the better option and free... then Terry should have passed.

Basic team discipline

Very sad to see our supporters turn on a true champion

roo wasnt free. wasnt best option. was covered. milera was a 70% chance to score from there and well within his rights to shoot.
then roo still gave him a serve.
noone is turning on roo - just pointing out that in one little incident/ 1% of the game he could have done better.
noone is perfect and when u are skipper and on a mill a year you are going to cop some scrutiny.

[clarky449]

Glad he didnt pass to Riewoldt, Milera was surely in his right to have a kick.

[SainterK]

Never understood why you can never say anything negative about Roo on here?

Is it really as dramatic as 'turning on him' to point out something minor, or question a moment, or ask if he could do better?

It's just conversation, about a player, who happens to have the (c) next to his name.

I can even say a couple of Lennys inside 50's were rushed and to nobody v the Swans, yet I still love him, and I will still brag to my grandkids that I got to watch play.

[ShanghaiSaint]

What did we think of it? I thought Milera was well and truly within his rights to have a shot,infact I think it was 100% the correct decision.

In the final quarter,we saw balls kicked to Roo(unsuccesfully) from the mosquito fleet and Milera when they should have had shots. I hope these guys are encouraged to have shots when they are within 40-45 if there is only a 50-50 contest option ahead of them, despite the unfair critism thrown at them from there skipper tonight

noticed it and i was disapointed. Captain shouldn't carruy on like that when we were in control and way in front. I would have expected him to be pumping the boys up for a solid closing 4th where we shut the door on them... failed to happen SYD won the quarter. all in all great game and come from behind take over.

[kosifantutti]

I just watched it again. I think Riewoldt had a bet on that he could recreate that moment from the Grand Final Replay where he had the kick smothered in the goal square.

It was one of those exotic bets on Centrebet.

Gambling is ruining our game.

[perfectionist]

Nick Riewoldt - 1963 marks (2nd highest Saints player behind Stewart Loewe) at an average of 8.66 per game (second highest VFL/AFL ever behind Gary Dempsey with 8.70, compared with current players J Brown 7.29 and T Cloke 6.71 which, in terms of average, is a mile behind).

Nick has also taken the highest percentage of contested marks since such records have been kept. In addition, the laws were changed near the start of his career to make the payment of a mark far more difficult than at any time time in the previous one hundred years. Check any video of the greatest marks of the 60s-90s (available at your local K-Mart store for $9.99) to see that about half wouldn't be paid now.

My advice: Sit back and watch the best mark ever in AFL history and shut your gobs, especially when you rely on video expression without sound for criticism. In other words, you have no idea what the captain said to his player. But then again, this is the internet, where ignorance can apparently trump knowledge if enough fools respond.

Having said that, any Saints player in the V within 50 metres should go for goal. If his misses, it's on his head.

[saintbrat]

Never understood why you can never say anything negative about Roo on here?

Is it really as dramatic as 'turning on him' to point out something minor, or question a moment, or ask if he could do better?

It's just conversation, about a player, who happens to have the (c) next to his name.

I can even say a couple of Lennys inside 50's were rushed and to nobody v the Swans, yet I still love him, and I will still brag to my grandkids that I got to watch play.

But has anyone turned Lenny's misses into a 3 page thread-?

[jonesy]

Nick Riewoldt - 1963 marks (2nd highest Saints player behind Stewart Loewe) at an average of 8.66 per game (second highest VFL/AFL ever behind Gary Dempsey with 8.70, compared with current players J Brown 7.29 and T Cloke 6.71 which, in terms of average, is a mile behind).

Nick has also taken the highest percentage of contested marks since such records have been kept. In addition, the laws were changed near the start of his career to make the payment of a mark far more difficult than at any time time in the previous one hundred years. Check any video of the greatest marks of the 60s-90s (available at your local K-Mart store for $9.99) to see that about half wouldn't be paid now.

My advice: Sit back and watch the best mark ever in AFL history and shut your gobs, especially when you rely on video expression without sound for criticism. In other words, you have no idea what the captain said to his player. But then again, this is the internet, where ignorance can apparently trump knowledge if enough fools respond.

Having said that, any Saints player in the V within 50 metres should go for goal. If his misses, it's on his head.

My advice: Stewart Loewe was the best mark in AFL/VFL history,so shut your gob,you're embarrassing yourself

[kosifantutti]

But has anyone turned Lenny's misses into a 3 page thread-?

You spelled 'missus' wrong but she is certainly worth a 3 page thread..

[SainterK]

Never understood why you can never say anything negative about Roo on here?

Is it really as dramatic as 'turning on him' to point out something minor, or question a moment, or ask if he could do better?

It's just conversation, about a player, who happens to have the (c) next to his name.

I can even say a couple of Lennys inside 50's were rushed and to nobody v the Swans, yet I still love him, and I will still brag to my grandkids that I got to watch play.

But has anyone turned Lenny's misses into a 3 page thread-?

I guess the point of interest is that we finally look less reliable on Nick, which is better for Nick....

I hope Milera doesn't change his style.