Montagna rubbed out for 2

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Selwood cleared and Monty charged. Mind = blown

Meanwhile Taylor Walker jumps on Surjan's head with both knees and all I can hear is crickets chirping.

Montagna must challenge. Magner drags him to ground, Montagna's arms are pinned becasue he has a hold of Magner's jumper, the contact was no more than incidental and/or and accident.

Between the week in week out circus that is the MRP and ridiculousness that is the fixture.... RUBBISH... It's f****** infuriating!

[SaintPav]

What is everyone upset about. Joey is not going to be missed over the next couple of weeks anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of players at Sandy that can cruise around and avoid the hard stuff just as well.

I knew spankers like you would chime in…
Playing as a forward he is
5th for tackles…
4th for disposals…
3rd for rebound 50's…
2nd for inside 50's…

If you think Siposs's 5 kicks next week are better than Montagna's 25 then all power to you.

He wasn't even knowledgeable or smart enough to mention Siposs as a replacement. He just likes bagging players and the club to get a reaction out of people. Don't waste your time on him.

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Farout, I thought it looked accidental…

Plenty have been asking for him to be dropped will be pleased no doubt.

Well if it is accidental they will challenge as he cant get anymore weeks. And if it accidental and we have smart people in charge he will get off. If he doesnt we either have dumb people helping our club or he is guilty.

Accidental? Magner had to go off under the blood rule. Looked like a jumper punch that went too far. Joey needs a decent foot up the bum for getting himself into that situation !!

This is novel. Only non-accidents cause bleeding.

How on earth I spilled claret this morning when I stubbed my toe I'll never know...

Magner clearly pulled Joey to ground. In some respects it was a sling tackle. Joey's only crime was not to let go of Magner's jumper as he fell. There was no movement on Montagna's part that spoke of any intent. His arms just feel where they did all in the bloink of an eye. I assume his elbow knicked Magner's eyebrow when he landed.

No intent at all IMO.

And yet Selwood and Walker made a conscious decision to inflict some kind of pain and they wander off.

It's a nonsense.

[Eastern]

I thought that the damage was done to Magners cheek BEFORE they went to ground but we'll know more by 11am tomorrow. And, I don't believe that you stubbed your toe this morning !!

[MCG-Unit]

What is everyone upset about. Joey is not going to be missed over the next couple of weeks anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of players at Sandy that can cruise around and avoid the hard stuff just as well.

I knew spankers like you would chime in…
Playing as a forward he is
5th for tackles…
4th for disposals…
3rd for rebound 50's…
2nd for inside 50's…

If you think Siposs's 5 kicks next week are better than Montagna's 25 then all power to you.

See this joker is just baiting - no-one responded to his first attempt in this thread - so he tries again. Just skip his posts, always negative, you will miss nothing. He waits till the 2 or 3 players he has it in for, have a poor match, (which Montagna didn't have) then takes a cheap shot.
I haven't opened threads he starts since he posted 'Riewoldt and Goddard are cancers on the club'

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I thought that the damage was done to Magners cheek BEFORE they went to ground but we'll know more by 11am tomorrow. And, I don't believe that you stubbed your toe this morning !!

I can actually send a photo to prove it!!

Caught the steel rim thingy that separates carpet from tiles in the doorway...

I swore rather loudly.

[CURLY]

Farout, I thought it looked accidental…

Plenty have been asking for him to be dropped will be pleased no doubt.

Well if it is accidental they will challenge as he cant get anymore weeks. And if it accidental and we have smart people in charge he will get off. If he doesnt we either have dumb people helping our club or he is guilty.

Accidental? Magner had to go off under the blood rule. Looked like a jumper punch that went too far. Joey needs a decent foot up the bum for getting himself into that situation !!

Your not serious are you? You've either never played or an umpire of worse both.

[Sobraz]

This is novel. Only non-accidents cause bleeding.

How on earth I spilled claret this morning when I stubbed my toe I'll never know...

Magner clearly pulled Joey to ground. In some respects it was a sling tackle. Joey's only crime was not to let go of Magner's jumper as he fell. There was no movement on Montagna's part that spoke of any intent. His arms just feel where they did all in the bloink of an eye. I assume his elbow knicked Magner's eyebrow when he landed.

No intent at all IMO.

And yet Selwood and Walker made a conscious decision to inflict some kind of pain and they wander off.

It's a nonsense.

It was a knee to the head that split him open IMO... Saw it live close up and thought he'd be in trouble...

[gringo]

It is the consistency in all decisions relating to how the game is played that frustrates fans. You can have the same incident go either way. I think if you have a high profile like Judd or Selwood you get a free run. Goodes is another that seem to have done many incidents worthy of suspension but find themselves always cleared.

Umpires and the MRP seem to run vendettas because they can't seem to keep their minds and make similar situations equal regardless of individuals. We need the Voice style seat where they get to spin around after being blindly talked through by an impartial observer, can't be any f%$#ing worse.

I can't remember a season where a russian roulette system occurs so frequently. Players are scared to take possession now because you seem to get one out of three as holding the ball if you dare to be first to it.

[maverick]

I think he should challenge, he had hold of Joey and pulled him down.
It looked accidental, that should be enough to generate doubt.

[andrewg]

Not a bad thing but don't agree with result might be just the thig we need to see the birth or Aaron or tommy!!! Just like Wilkes with big kosie

[Leo.J]

2 Weeks!!! For that!!!

Just watched it, 10.30 into the first quarter.

I can't work out when contact was made.,, Magner definately cops one in the malee, but the hit that does the damage appears to be accidental, and it's not apparent how the damage was done.

Seriously this has to be a joke... and needs to be challenged.

You can be forgiven for thinking that they just make this sh!t up.

[Leo.J]

It was a knee to the head that split him open IMO... Saw it live close up and thought he'd be in trouble...

From what I just watched Magner pulled Joey down which lead to the contact.

[Buckets]

This is novel. Only non-accidents cause bleeding.

How on earth I spilled claret this morning when I stubbed my toe I'll never know...

Magner clearly pulled Joey to ground. In some respects it was a sling tackle. Joey's only crime was not to let go of Magner's jumper as he fell. There was no movement on Montagna's part that spoke of any intent. His arms just feel where they did all in the bloink of an eye. I assume his elbow knicked Magner's eyebrow when he landed.

No intent at all IMO.

And yet Selwood and Walker made a conscious decision to inflict some kind of pain and they wander off.

It's a nonsense.

It was a knee to the head that split him open IMO... Saw it live close up and thought he'd be in trouble...

Yep thought the same myself. Just looked really uncoordinated. Hopefully gets off but wasnt surprised that he copped weeks.

[Griggsy]

Selwood off, and Raines will plead guilty and get 1 week!

What the hell has previous record got to do with incidental contact anyways? I know that that is the sytem but an accident is just that. Magner pulled him down, he did not jump on him.

[Richter]

I am gobsmacked! Joey's the one trying to play the ball, Magner only has eyes for the man.... nd he then drags Joey onto on.... deserves whatever injury he sustained. Not even a free IMO..... yet the mrp reckon he should be rubbed out for 2 weeks.

WHo is on the mrp this year? The last few weeks some of their decisions have been pretty ordinary.

[Enrico_Misso]

Same old problem

MRP = Inconsistent

At least they are normally just inconsistent from one week to the next.
Tonight they are inconsistent on the Monty and Selwood deliberations.

They should be made to issue a written judgement on each decision.

[Teflon]

FFS Magner instigates the contact.......pulls Montagna to the ground............if u cant get accidental out of that........when can you?

Must challenge.

[Griggsy]

They should be made to issue a written judgement on each decision.

From the Website

Leigh Montagna, St Kilda, has been charged with a Level Three striking offence against James Magner, Melbourne, during the first quarter of the Round Five match between St Kilda and Melbourne, played at the MCG on Saturday April 28, 2012.

In summary, due to his previous poor record, his two-match sanction must remain at two matches, even with an early plea.

Based on the video evidence available and a medical report from the Melbourne Football Club, the incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), medium impact (two points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three offence, drawing 225 demerit points and a two-match sanction. He has an existing bad record of one match suspended within the last three years, increasing the penalty by 10 per cent to 247.50 points. He also has 64.06 demerit points carried over from within the last 12 months, increasing the penalty to 311.56 points and a three-match sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 233.67 points and a two-match sanction.

[Middo]

Having watched it a number of times on the AFL website and there is a close up I can't pick up the actual contact ....?
Yes there must have been some contact so they must be guessing cause the more you watch it the the more confusing it looks..
Magner starts the contact at the ball up and it flows from there and Joey looks like he's just trying to get to the next play ...
Not sure how some people can post garbage about that if he's getting weeks he must have done it ...?
Some posts defending the system are surely jest ...? FFS......

[bergsone]

NO one can defend this type of system,when you get results like this

[Scollop]

Well they challenge and win if you are right. Joey certainly has had a few accidents in the last few years. Same as Kosi. Makes you wonder how the same players from our club get picked on.

True… though young J. Selwood had a very similar incident last year too, didn't seem to contribute to his judgement for this one.

Do you not think that different players get different treatment?

Judd opened up Pav's face with an elbow, like Joey did, remember that one? It was a Brownlow year…

AFL mrp is a joke...Footy Classified highlighted 2 incidents this week with Tex Walker sliding into port player Jacob Surjan's head recklessly with his knees and Andrew Raines hip connecting pretty solidly with Selwood's head - both clearly had an option to tackle and both connected quite heavily (would have no doubt been high impact if they were cited - no doubt at all...Walker cleared and Raines already sighted for the love tap, so let's not ping him for trying to break Selwoods neck...wtf?? How the hell do they miss things like that?? Did they feel sorry for Raines because we all know that he was on the receiving end a couple of years back...Did they feel that Selwood was harshly penalised last year for the off the play incident with goo?? What is their agenda and who gets in their ear?? it's as if they need a bloody medical report to cite anyone....Or do they???????????????????????????

Here's more evidence of their discrimination;
Check out the slow motion from the 50 second mark onwards... Was the decision to clear Mcpharlin governed by the AFL's agenda...did they think that it'd be in the interests of the bottom line if Freo had a good year? After all if Dockers go well, there's certainly plenty of money washing around in WA with the mining boom. I still can't get over the fact that the footy world and in particular the commentators on tv last year didn't criticise the lateness and carelessness of the attempt to impact a contest when clearly the mark had already been taken (Freo vs Lions Rnd 1) and then the MRP itself did'nt charge McPharlin with a late, and some would say deliberate reckless, and at the very least - careless act.

One of the AFL's most courageous ball players had his face re-arranged and his career may have had a turning point from which there may never be a return to the 'ol Johno Brown. That first big hit on Browny in round 1 last year may have actually changed the bloke and his confidence for the first time in Browny's life. I'm not sure whether that first big hit changed his awareness or his timing, but certainly any injury late in a footballers career has a huge impact on their form and their abilty to get back to a level before a long lay off. If a bloke is late at a marking contest and lays a pinky on his opponent they call a 50m penalty because they don't want players arriving late and 'making the bloke earn the free' the way footy was traditionally played. We may never quite see that injured player at his best ever again. The issue is that one player is going for the footy, and the other just wants to get some sort of contact to the body of the ball player to try and impact the contest. Did the ball player contribute to the accident or did he do anything unusual? NO!! He contested and he took a mark and held it to his chest as he fell to the ground. The issue is that Mcpaherlin was late and he was careless. Mcpharlin lays on the ground to give us (ie. the umpires mainly) the perception that he has perhaps 'felt' the impact as much as the guy who he has just deliberately connected to the head with his thigh and his knee.

He could have tried to stretch his arms out if he thought that the ball was dropping and both Brown and Grover were going to miss it, but he didn't have his arms outstretched did he?? Mcpharlin knew what he was doing. He was impacting late and he wanted Brown to feel the impact. Browny has a style that we enjoy watching and we admire and I feel that the AFL mrp needs to understand that pure ball players need to be protected. Educate the umpires so that ball players and forwards don't get there necks or heads ripped off and when someone like McPharlin runs into a contest late and is careless - and a player misses THAT much footy as Brown did, they definitely need to be cited and rubbed out!!

[matrix]

thats about one minute 1.42
joey breaks from a clearance and magner does the little grab thing they all do with the arms around the waist.
joey turns and grabs him
both grabbing
both go to ground

the impact is right at the last few millisecs of 1.42
i thought it was a knee too
peeps live have said it looked like a knee
i thought it looked like his hand
but if the knee is behind the arm then it mightve been his knee




thats at 1.43







both also at 1.43

raines pushes selwood in the chest as they are both running away from the play
geelong have the ball (from a stationary possie)
they take a few jogging steps after the chest push and selwood gives him a left one straight to the moush that rocks his head back
raines says f*** you then and gives him one back and selwood hits the turf

[Cairnsman]

What is everyone upset about. Joey is not going to be missed over the next couple of weeks anyway. I'm sure there are plenty of players at Sandy that can cruise around and avoid the hard stuff just as well.

I knew spankers like you would chime in…
Playing as a forward he is
5th for tackles…
4th for disposals…
3rd for rebound 50's…
2nd for inside 50's…

If you think Siposs's 5 kicks next week are better than Montagna's 25 then all power to you.

How do those statistics compare to his best. I've got to admit I'm not a stats man but it just looks to me like he is cruising by comparison to his past performances. Seeing as though you are the stats man how about you flick up his personal best stats. Maybe even his stats for the 2008 to 2011 stats. 5th for tackles. Wow. Looking forward to seeing the comparisons. Maybe he isn't cruising.

[SaintPav]

thats about one minute 1.42
joey breaks from a clearance and magner does the little grab thing they all do with the arms around the waist.
joey turns and grabs him
both grabbing
both go to ground

the impact is right at the last few millisecs of 1.42
i thought it was a knee too
peeps live have said it looked like a knee
i thought it looked like his hand
but if the knee is behind the arm then it mightve been his knee




thats at 1.43







both also at 1.43

raines pushes selwood in the chest as they are both running away from the play
geelong have the ball (from a stationary possie)
they take a few jogging steps after the chest push and selwood gives him a left one straight to the moush that rocks his head back
raines says f*** you then and gives him one back and selwood hits the turf

So do you think he's guilty or not?

BTW, where's Glen Archer?