Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209126Post Thinline »

Can anyone help me with a bit of research re this incident?

Anyone there at the game? Anyone see exactly what happened?

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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209144Post Superboot »

Was there and had a clear view of it, but memory is a little hazy.

Between centre and wing. Craig Devonport collected the ball. Burke went to shepherd Ablett so that Deveonport would have clear passage. Ablett ran at Burke and jumped off the ground with raised forearm to Burke's head. Burke went down very groggy.

The much cited David Grant incident a little later was different. Ablett was in the vacinity but less culpable.
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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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Thinline wrote:Can anyone help me with a bit of research re this incident?

Anyone there at the game? Anyone see exactly what happened?

Cheers,

PM if you'd prefer...
I think the statute of limitations has passed on this one.


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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Thanks mate! Appreciate the help.


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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Cairnsman wrote:
Thinline wrote:Can anyone help me with a bit of research re this incident?

Anyone there at the game? Anyone see exactly what happened?

Cheers,

PM if you'd prefer...
I think the statute of limitations has passed on this one.
Undoubtedly. But I'm writing about Ablett Snr, and this incident forms a relevant part of the tale.

Strange bloke, Ablett. Bit creepy.


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209155Post saintspremiers »

Ablett snr was a freakish player but clearly a lowlife turd as a person.

Heaven help him has he done what he did in the current era.

Also didn't help that we only had a 2 man bench back in those days.

Ablett's thuggery won them the game.


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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saintspremiers wrote:Ablett snr was a freakish player but clearly a lowlife turd as a person.

Heaven help him has he done what he did in the current era.

Also didn't help that we only had a 2 man bench back in those days.

Ablett's thuggery won them the game.
Real strange unit, Ablett.


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I was at the game but didn't see anything other than the aftermath. Hey TL do you write for a living? It wouldn't surprise if you did. You articulate well in the written language.


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Cairnsman wrote:I was at the game but didn't see anything other than the aftermath. Hey TL do you write for a living? It wouldn't surprise if you did. You articulate well in the written language.
Thanks.

I do. But it does depend on how you define 'a living'.

To that end I do other things so I can buy bread to accompany the dripping.

Can't speak for s***, but.


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I was at that game, and what a game it was. Had everything. We should have won but this incident and Plugger's wayward kicking resulted in defeat and our season over. A shattering loss, we really could have beaten the Dawks at Waverley on GF day. I'll never forget McAdam kicking the first goal on the run, the house fell down, I'd never seen so many Saints fans at a game until that point.


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209166Post saintspremiers »

Also worth noting we finished 3rd and played Geelong 2nd in a KNOCKOUT elimination final!

Was a final six. Major cockup by the AFL in that we were eliminated after one final finishing third.

.....and we can't blame Demetriou for that, it was prob Ross Oakley's era (former Saint player!!).


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209168Post Life Long Saint »

saintspremiers wrote:Also worth noting we finished 3rd and played Geelong 2nd in a KNOCKOUT elimination final!

Was a final six. Major cockup by the AFL in that we were eliminated after one final finishing third.
Not quite...We finished 4th and played Geelong ranked 3rd in an elimination...The winner got to play Hawthorn (who beat the Eagles in Perth) for a spot in the GF.

The other Elimination final was between Melbourne (5th) & Essendon (6th).

It was the only season the AFL played under this scheme and was not one of Ken McIntyre's best efforts. It was a stupid system as it guaranteed that one of the top 4 teams was eliminated in the first week of the finals.

Subsequent years saw 3rd v 6th & 4th v 5th with the highes ranked winner playing the 2nd semi for a spot in the GF.
In 1992 we finished 6th and beat Collingwood (3rd) in the elimination final.


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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I do remember the next day Nathan Burke's father called 3uz and let Ablett have it! sadly i Didnt record it 5mins of Gold lol


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mcadam05 wrote:I do remember the next day Nathan Burke's father called 3uz and let Ablett have it! sadly i Didnt record it 5mins of Gold lol
Hysterical!

Sounds like something Sipposs' dad world do...


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Thinline wrote:
mcadam05 wrote:I do remember the next day Nathan Burke's father called 3uz and let Ablett have it! sadly i Didnt record it 5mins of Gold lol
Hysterical!

Sounds like something Sipposs' dad world do...
Or David Cloke :wink:


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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let Ken take you though the game :)



Burke went down at the 1min 20sec mark , least the cats got the free lol


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209193Post Beno88 »

I still believe we would have made the 1991 Grand Final if that incident didn't occur.


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mcadam05 wrote:let Ken take you though the game :)



Burke went down at the 1min 20sec mark , least the cats got the free lol
incredible stuff. not sure how we lost.
now i remember why winmar and mcadam are my favourite saints players ever and plugger is the best player i have ever seen.
should have won the flag.


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Post: # 1209215Post Con Gorozidis »

the ricky nixon goal at 14 mins on the video.
oh dear. unco bloke.
saints strategy was if u get it within 80 just kick to lockett.
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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209244Post Dave McNamara »

Memories... The first Saintas final I'd ever seen. Used to usher at Waverley finals during the 80's, but never saw our boys...

I was at the other end and missed both incidents. However the David Grant one was very significant. He was cutting off so many handbagger attacks. Danny kept Gablett very quiet stats wise. Puffing Billy Brownless was their go to man, and once Granty stopped getting in his way, Cinderella Brownless was no longer Cinderella. He won them that game. :cry:


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

Post: # 1209265Post stevie »

Buckets poor game didn't help us. It allowed Stoneham to quell Plugger in the last qtr. That cost us the game


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Re: Ablett/Burke 1991 finals incident

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Not sure that cost us the game. My recollection is that plugger got his fair share and lost his kicking boot. Unfortunately they were the best two teams in it that year.


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