Players that need to go at the end of 2012!!!!

[citywest]

1) Jason Blake.
2) Justin Koshcitzke.
3) Nick Riewoldt.
4) Lenny Hayes.
5) Stephen Milne.
6) Clinton Jones.
7) Raphael Clarke.
8) Beau Wilkes.
9) Farren Ray
10) Dean Polo.

Clear the decks and start again. Our list could have won the 2004, 2005, 2009, 2010 premierships. If only lady luck had smiled upon us. If there was any doubt that the era was over, after tonight there is no doubt. The sooner we get rid of the above 10, the sooner we can bottom out and start the rebuild. If we don't cut deep then it could take twice as long before we can challenge again.

Note: Blake should have retired at the end of last year. Wilkes should never have been recruited.

[Teflon]

1) Jason Blake.
2) Justin Koshcitzke.
3) Nick Riewoldt.
4) Lenny Hayes.
5) Stephen Milne.
6) Clinton Jones.
7) Raphael Clarke.
8) Beau Wilkes.
9) Farren Ray
10) Dean Polo.

Clear the decks and start again. Our list could have won the 2004, 2005, 2009, 2010 premierships. If only lady luck had smiled upon us. If there was any doubt that the era was over, after tonight there is no doubt. The sooner we get rid of the above 10, the sooner we can bottom out and start the rebuild. If we don't cut deep then it could take twice as long before we can challenge again.

Note: Blake should have retired at the end of last year. Wilkes should never have been recruited.

so you're keeping Peake/Gram as your secret weapon?

[vacuous space]

3) Nick Riewoldt.

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[citywest]

1) Jason Blake.
2) Justin Koshcitzke.
3) Nick Riewoldt.
4) Lenny Hayes.
5) Stephen Milne.
6) Clinton Jones.
7) Raphael Clarke.
8) Beau Wilkes.
9) Farren Ray
10) Dean Polo.

Clear the decks and start again. Our list could have won the 2004, 2005, 2009, 2010 premierships. If only lady luck had smiled upon us. If there was any doubt that the era was over, after tonight there is no doubt. The sooner we get rid of the above 10, the sooner we can bottom out and start the rebuild. If we don't cut deep then it could take twice as long before we can challenge again.

Note: Blake should have retired at the end of last year. Wilkes should never have been recruited.

so you're keeping Peake/Gram as your secret weapon?

Peake and Gram are not my secret weapons but I thought that if we get rid of more than 10 players it would be too many. If though you feel that they should go then I'm inclined to agree with you.

[Teflon]

1) Jason Blake.
2) Justin Koshcitzke.
3) Nick Riewoldt.
4) Lenny Hayes.
5) Stephen Milne.
6) Clinton Jones.
7) Raphael Clarke.
8) Beau Wilkes.
9) Farren Ray
10) Dean Polo.

Clear the decks and start again. Our list could have won the 2004, 2005, 2009, 2010 premierships. If only lady luck had smiled upon us. If there was any doubt that the era was over, after tonight there is no doubt. The sooner we get rid of the above 10, the sooner we can bottom out and start the rebuild. If we don't cut deep then it could take twice as long before we can challenge again.

Note: Blake should have retired at the end of last year. Wilkes should never have been recruited.

so you're keeping Peake/Gram as your secret weapon?

Peake and Gram are not my secret weapons but I thought that if we get rid of more than 10 players it would be too many. If though you feel that they should go then I'm inclined to agree with you.

well Id get rid of them before Riewoldt and if Hayes felt he could go again Id let him......one of our contested ball winners.......and we are struggling here big time.

[hungry for a premiership]

The rebuild has already begun. Some of those players you mentioned will no doubt go but probably not all. It's better for the development of the youth if they are blended into the team rather than just throwing 10 of them in all at once.

[Old Mate]

The first 5 listed will all retire by the end of next season IMO. The others will struggle to remain on the list as well.

[citywest]

The first 5 listed will all retire by the end of next season IMO. The others will struggle to remain on the list as well.

For St Kilda's sake, I hope they are all gone by the end of this season.

[plugger66]

The first 5 listed will all retire by the end of next season IMO. The others will struggle to remain on the list as well.

For St Kilda's sake, I hope they are all gone by the end of this season.

Probably better if you are gone.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

Can we do a list of so called fans we must get rid of by end of 2012...

[OneEyedSainter77]

The first 5 listed will all retire by the end of next season IMO. The others will struggle to remain on the list as well.

For St Kilda's sake, I hope they are all gone by the end of this season.

Probably better if you are gone.

I agree.


How can it be good for us to be without Roo, hayes and milne?

Ludicrous!

[SaintPav]

troll. you really are a sad loser City west

[gringo]

And we should sack the coach we have never won a game under Watters. Disgrace hang your head Scotty.

[citywest]

troll. you really are a sad loser City west

No, I am not a troll. We need to clear out most of the players who are shot. Have a look at Essendon for example. After their period of dominace ended it has been a slow and painful decline and then a slow and painful incline (it's been 10 years and they are still not a genuine premiership threat.

I don't want to wait 10 years before St kilda are a threat again. We need to clear the decks now so we can challenge again in 5 years time. NOT 10 years.

[clarky449]

What a idiotic thread. Cant just get rid of Riewoldt, Hayes, Milne, etc. We cant just clean out the whole team.

[plugger66]

troll. you really are a sad loser City west

No, I am not a troll. We need to clear out most of the players who are shot. Have a look at Essendon for example. After their period of dominace ended it has been a slow and painful decline and then a slow and painful incline (it's been 10 years and they are still not a genuine premiership threat.

I don't want to wait 10 years before St kilda are a threat again. We need to clear the decks now so we can challenge again in 5 years time. NOT 10 years.

You do realise that getting rid of those players doesnt actually help unless you get trade picks for them. Surely you know how it works or are you new to the game in the lst 7 days.

Apart from Rooy not one other player is trade bait. It is just madness with a capital f***wit.

[citywest]

troll. you really are a sad loser City west

No, I am not a troll. We need to clear out most of the players who are shot. Have a look at Essendon for example. After their period of dominace ended it has been a slow and painful decline and then a slow and painful incline (it's been 10 years and they are still not a genuine premiership threat.

I don't want to wait 10 years before St kilda are a threat again. We need to clear the decks now so we can challenge again in 5 years time. NOT 10 years.

You do realise that getting rid of those players doesnt actually help unless you get trade picks for them. Surely you know how it works or are you new to the game in the lst 7 days.

Apart from Rooy not one other player is trade bait. It is just madness with a capital f***wit.

Att : Moderators, I would like to report pluger66 for abuse and swearing.

[clarky449]

Are you a little bitch?... Post the most stupidest thing on here. How on earth do people like you even think about this crap. Honestly shouldnt be allowed in to the football with this crap.

[3rd generation saint]

First of all, we can't de list 10 players, any season, no club will do that because you need replacements.
However, in line with this guy's arguement, some of those guys will go at the end of the year either by retirement or de listing, but I was wondering last night as too who has responded best to the 2010 lost.
I can only find 3, Milne, Fisher and Dal, Lenny can't be judged yet as he missed last season but he still seems hungry.
From this I really started thinking that maybe we can't go forward until all those players who lost that 2010 GF are purged from the side with the exception of Big Ben.
Just had this bad feeling that that lost has really deflated them so bad that they can't recover, much like Collingwood after the 03 thrashing Brisbane handed out to them.
I would like to be wrong, very wrong because this is one thing I really do not want to be right about.

[joffaboy]

citywest is nexus_Nick/helen, and dozens of other nics.

Serial troll who has been banned from here and bf numerous times.

Started a similiar thread at the end of 2008 over at bf.

Absolute troll who has admitted to being an Essendon supporter in the past.

is obviously mentally ill.

[citywest]

citywest is nexus_Nick/helen, and dozens of other nics.

Serial troll who has been banned from here and bf numerous times.

Started a similiar thread at the end of 2008 over at bf.

Absolute troll who has admitted to being an Essendon supporter in the past.

is obviously mentally ill.

WTF???? Who the hell are you????

[lefty]

I don't know why I bother reading this forum anymore?
What a retarded thread, actually, question is why hasn't the mod deleted it?

[BigMart]

Fair Post

If at the endo of the season we are 4-18.... We need to look at clearing the decks ala 2000/2001

Lenny will be 33 and off 2 recos
Nick is looking more like Hamill 2006/7 every game and will be turning 31....but I wouldn't delist him
Blake an obvious
Miley will be 33
Kosi is getting slower and will be 31 and is really in Rhys. 's position....keep for back up
CJ, Raph, polo, Beau will be delisted surely
Gram and Peak would be lucky to survive

I would Schnieder and Ray as Back up players......trade 1 biggish name (Gilbert, Armitage) for a third rounder

Look to have a year or two Ina the bottom half....

Keep
Simpkin.....Gwilt...........Cripps
Winmar......Fisher..........Goddard (C)
montagna....Dal Santo.....Riewoldt (V)
Milera.......X. Recruit...Dunnell
Saad........Siposs.......Stanley

McEvoy......Ross......Steven

Markworth.....Geary.....Scnieder
Newnes

Possible new recruit
Tom Lynch (GC)

Reserves
Dempster, Kosi, Ray, Crocker, Curran, Minchington, Webster, archer, ferguson

And about ten new picks

[Dr Spaceman]

Why are people putting up Beau Wilkes for delisting?

I mean, we're one week into his first season and he didn't even play. And the week before he was BOG, or close to it, for Sandy.

Not saying he's gonna make it but there seems to be a bit of premature ejecting going on around here.

[citywest]

Fair Post

If at the endo of the season we are 4-18.... We need to look at clearing the decks ala 2000/2001

Lenny will be 33 and off 2 recos
Nick is looking more like Hamill 2006/7 every game and will be turning 31....but I wouldn't delist him
Blake an obvious
Miley will be 33
Kosi is getting slower and will be 31 and is really in Rhys. 's position....keep for back up
CJ, Raph, polo, Beau will be delisted surely
Gram and Peak would be lucky to survive

I would Schnieder and Ray as Back up players......trade 1 biggish name (Gilbert, Armitage) for a third rounder

Look to have a year or two Ina the bottom half....

Keep
Simpkin.....Gwilt...........Cripps
Winmar......Fisher..........Goddard (C)
montagna....Dal Santo.....Riewoldt (V)
Milera.......X. Recruit...Dunnell
Saad........Siposs.......Stanley

McEvoy......Ross......Steven

Markworth.....Geary.....Scnieder
Newnes

Possible new recruit
Tom Lynch (GC)

Reserves
Dempster, Kosi, Ray, Crocker, Curran, Minchington, Webster, archer, ferguson

And about ten new picks

Excellent reply BigMart!!!