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Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
defacto wrote:hows our form bad in NZ?plugger66 wrote:defacto wrote:
and because an official figure hasnt been provided yet it means we shouldnt investigate this opportunity?
Sorry but I didnt say not to investigate it, its just you said we must get this through so you are the one who isnt actually investigating it.
we have to get this opportunity over the line, which means making sure the $$$ are good. we wouldnt go if the $$$ werent good. hell i'd go if it meant we didnt lose as much money as we do for a home game at etihad against an opponent that doesnt traditionally have strong attendances.
now i know why other posters have blocked you p66.
Other people blocked me wow. Firstly I find it funny you know that and secondly I couldnt give a stuff. All I am pointing out is you basically said we have to do it no matter what and i have said we need a great reason to do it. Logic says i am right.
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No p66 the OP (and everyone with half a brain) recognises that we would only do it for a big pay day. Congrats you have shat all through another topic.
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Old Mate wrote:No p66 the OP (and everyone with half a brain) recognises that we would only do it for a big pay day. Congrats you have shat all through another topic.
Cant see how I have wrecked another topic. Completely stayed on the topic. It seems you started going off the topic. I have reread the first post and cannot see where a big pay day is even slightly mentioned.
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
Thank you Majority for the link.Majority wrote:http://www.austadiums.com/forum/viewtop ... f=2&t=3129
Interesting pictures. My one question though is, where were all the people on the railway station footbridge going? Certainly not to the soccer.
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If we do go, which like all the other posters so far, I am in favour of investigating, then we'd want to do better than the A-League crowd and interest-wise.
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Massive market in NZ...not
We'd be wanting to get 1 million + per game for going over there.
Sam Gilbert's NZ form is solid. Pity we got rid of Zac he performed above himself across the Tasman.
We'd be wanting to get 1 million + per game for going over there.
Sam Gilbert's NZ form is solid. Pity we got rid of Zac he performed above himself across the Tasman.
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Stadium looks great!!!!Majority wrote:http://www.austadiums.com/forum/viewtop ... f=2&t=3129
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
Not at the moment, but surely NZ is the next sort of place we (the AFL) ought to look to expand the game into and whichever club gets their foot in the door first is the one that is likely to get whatever support there is, which will expand if the game does eventually grow there.Leo.J wrote:Massive market in NZ...not
If there's good money in it, it could be great for us in the short term and if the AFL are looking to expand the game there it could also be very good for us in the long term, if we stick with it. To compete with the likes of Collingwood we need to "think big" and perhaps outside the square, or we'll be left behind. This is the sort of thing we ought to have a good look at IMO, if the AFL are serious at expanding there, or, of course, if the money is huge.
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The Kiwi population is tiny, and they are Rugby mad.AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:Not at the moment, but surely NZ is the next sort of place we (the AFL) ought to look to expand the game into and whichever club gets their foot in the door first is the one that is likely to get whatever support there is, which will expand if the game does eventually grow there.Leo.J wrote:Massive market in NZ...not
If there's good money in it, it could be great for us in the short term and if the AFL are looking to expand the game there it could also be very good for us in the long term, if we stick with it. To compete with the likes of Collingwood we need to "think big" and perhaps outside the square, or we'll be left behind.
Not worth it for the AFL IMO, yet if they are greedy enough to try it and pay the Saints a fortune to do, why not.
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This we have to be in it for the long run. The playing pool there has huge potential to tap into. It's not that far away from delivering some good talent. The news about playing our sport in their schools shows the long term potential is there.AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:Not at the moment, but surely NZ is the next sort of place we (the AFL) ought to look to expand the game into and whichever club gets their foot in the door first is the one that is likely to get whatever support there is, which will expand if the game does eventually grow there.Leo.J wrote:Massive market in NZ...not
If there's good money in it, it could be great for us in the short term and if the AFL are looking to expand the game there it could also be very good for us in the long term, if we stick with it. To compete with the likes of Collingwood we need to "think big" and perhaps outside the square, or we'll be left behind. This is the sort of thing we ought to have a good look at IMO, if the AFL are serious at expanding there, or, of course, if the money is huge.
We just need financial coverage to make it viable in the short term.
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
I'd say go for it if we could get a bernie eccelston GP sized paycheck for doing it !!!!
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
Yeah. Almost as ridiculous as playing in west sydney. The afl would never be that stupid would they?plugger66 wrote: our game will just be another game that will be played on a small ground in NZ with a lot of NZérs there wondering what the hell is going on. Like i said unless we get huge money then there is not one benefit.
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
If my memory serves me correctly there is a large Kiwi and Maori population in the Seaford and Frankston area. Is it possible that the club has seen a fantastic opportunity to engage this part of the local community around the Seaford and Frankston area by adopting New Zealand?
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I love it, great idea.
If the AFL has ideas to expand the comp, it would pay bigtime to be the team with it's foot in the door already.
How long do fly there? Any further than Perth, or even the NT where games are played these days?
If anything, I'm sure there are plenty of people living over there than already know AFL and would jump on board just to get their fix.
This must be the commercial development they have been hinting at, if it is, it sounds like it's progressed further than perhaps the article suggests.
Maybe it was that something that GT was impressed with when welcomed back?
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If the AFL has ideas to expand the comp, it would pay bigtime to be the team with it's foot in the door already.
How long do fly there? Any further than Perth, or even the NT where games are played these days?
If anything, I'm sure there are plenty of people living over there than already know AFL and would jump on board just to get their fix.
This must be the commercial development they have been hinting at, if it is, it sounds like it's progressed further than perhaps the article suggests.
Maybe it was that something that GT was impressed with when welcomed back?
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you're right broCairnsman wrote:If my memory serves me correctly there is a large Kiwi and Maori population in the Seaford and Frankston area. Is it possible that the club has seen a fantastic opportunity to engage this part of the local community around the Seaford and Frankston area by adopting New Zealand?
and they all love rugby !!!
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Footy to progress in Wellington?
Tuesday, February 28 2012 @ 01:55 PM EST
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AFL New Zealand is attempting to increase the number of teams in schools, at the same time as the leading Australian clubs are starting to look across the Tasman for new talent.
"The Australian clubs originally looked to Ireland – because of the similarity to gaelic football – for their international talent but finally are seeing see the merits of searching closer to home [in New Zealand]," AFL NZ national youth coach James Terry said.
According to Terry, four New Zealand boys were signed up for AFL scholarships last year and nine Australian clubs had observers at a training camp and game in Wellington last month. So far there has not been a Wellingtonian signed to an AFL scholarship and they have also not had much of a presence in the national sides recently.
Terry agrees to the widely held belief of those with experience of NZ football that "The games we play here – rugby, soccer, league and basketball – produce the type of athletic kids the AFL clubs are after and it can be a pathway to a very lucrative career."
Australian Rules is pitched as a summer game in New Zealand, so it is seen as an adjunct to rugby, soccer and league, rather than a competitor.
Five Wellington secondary schools fielded teams in AFL competitions last year and Terry hopes a bigger number will be involved in the senior Hawks Cup, a schools tournament that will be staged in Wellington in March, with a North Island schools tournament scheduled in late March.
Wellington schoolboys have already made an impression in AFL with Kade Riddell (Hutt Valley), Hugo Phillips (Wellington College), Fletcher Barclay (Paraparaumu), Jordan Mueller (Hutt Valley), Craig Morgan (Hutt Valley), Josh Thompson (St Pat's Town) and Mitchell Purvis (HIBS) all selected for the New Zealand under-16 side.
In addition, Riddell, Phillips and Barclay are in the Oceania under-16 squad that will play in Sydney at Easter at the Australian U16 Championships.
For more, see Aussie Rules scouts at Wellington schools.
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Tuesday, February 28 2012 @ 01:55 PM EST
Contributed by: Rod Shaw
AFL New Zealand is attempting to increase the number of teams in schools, at the same time as the leading Australian clubs are starting to look across the Tasman for new talent.
"The Australian clubs originally looked to Ireland – because of the similarity to gaelic football – for their international talent but finally are seeing see the merits of searching closer to home [in New Zealand]," AFL NZ national youth coach James Terry said.
According to Terry, four New Zealand boys were signed up for AFL scholarships last year and nine Australian clubs had observers at a training camp and game in Wellington last month. So far there has not been a Wellingtonian signed to an AFL scholarship and they have also not had much of a presence in the national sides recently.
Terry agrees to the widely held belief of those with experience of NZ football that "The games we play here – rugby, soccer, league and basketball – produce the type of athletic kids the AFL clubs are after and it can be a pathway to a very lucrative career."
Australian Rules is pitched as a summer game in New Zealand, so it is seen as an adjunct to rugby, soccer and league, rather than a competitor.
Five Wellington secondary schools fielded teams in AFL competitions last year and Terry hopes a bigger number will be involved in the senior Hawks Cup, a schools tournament that will be staged in Wellington in March, with a North Island schools tournament scheduled in late March.
Wellington schoolboys have already made an impression in AFL with Kade Riddell (Hutt Valley), Hugo Phillips (Wellington College), Fletcher Barclay (Paraparaumu), Jordan Mueller (Hutt Valley), Craig Morgan (Hutt Valley), Josh Thompson (St Pat's Town) and Mitchell Purvis (HIBS) all selected for the New Zealand under-16 side.
In addition, Riddell, Phillips and Barclay are in the Oceania under-16 squad that will play in Sydney at Easter at the Australian U16 Championships.
For more, see Aussie Rules scouts at Wellington schools.
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
Or not...The Redeemer wrote:Is this Nettlefold's attempt at being completely unoriginal and basically stealing the concept of a 'home away from home' re the Hawks...oh and the Kangas however they could not even develop a market in another state...
If it is...it is kind of laughable.
AFL chief Andrew Demetriou confirmed that St Kilda had met the league's acting game development chief Andrew Dillon regarding the New Zealand push, which is understood to have been heavily driven by the Saints' new head of football, Chris Pelchen.
Demetriou said the subject had been briefly raised but not significantly explored at a recent meeting of AFL executives. The game's recently completed five-year strategic plan includes an international plat-form and the expressed desire to contest home-and-away games out-side Australia within that period.
Pelchen was accompanied by St Kilda executives Michael Nettlefold and Terry Dillon in a trip to New Zealand in January during the tour by the Australian rules AIS under-18 team. The key Saints off-field trio are believed to have held a series of meetings with Wellington-based stakeholders and toured the stadium
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Re: Saints to play home game in NZ on ANZAC day
To me, an ANZAC day clash in NZ makes no sense, the match would have no spectacle as there would be about 3 people there.
I fully support the idea of playing a game in NZ, and i think it is a fantastic idea, but not on ANZAC day.
I fully support the idea of playing a game in NZ, and i think it is a fantastic idea, but not on ANZAC day.
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A game in nz on Anzac day makes no sense ?
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SaintSimmo wrote:To me, an ANZAC day clash in NZ makes no sense, the match would have no spectacle as there would be about 3 people there.
I fully support the idea of playing a game in NZ, and i think it is a fantastic idea, but not on ANZAC day.
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Thinking the exact same thing Gaz.gazrat wrote:A game in nz on Anzac day makes no sense ?
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