Do we have the shortest list in the AFL?

[Con Gorozidis]

Does anyone have the average heights for AFL lists for 2012?
Are we the shortest side in the AFL?

[stkildathunda]

Does anyone have the average heights for AFL lists for 2012?
Are we the shortest side in the AFL?

Yes we are, ranked 18th in AFL at ave height of 187cm (from AFL Prospectus)

FWIW we are also the oldest at 24yrs 277days and most experienced 83.3 games in the AFL

[dragit]

Does anyone have the average heights for AFL lists for 2012?
Are we the shortest side in the AFL?

Yes we are, ranked 18th in AFL at ave height of 187cm (from AFL Prospectus)

FWIW we are also the oldest at 24yrs 277days and most experienced 83.3 games in the AFL

Milney retires and we suddenly become the tallest, youngest, least experienced side… boom tish…

[Dr Spaceman]

Shortest list? I thought all teams had 38 players.

[borderbarry]

Wrong again Doc!

[SainterK]

Shortest coach too

[Con Gorozidis]

Shortest coach too

hahah . he does look like one of those ewoks. and it seems we have a team of yodas (short and old).

[Con Gorozidis]

pelchen is looking at this guy as a mature age international rookie

http://www.theage.com.au/world/nepal-ma ... 1twf0.html

[bigcarl]

pelchen is looking at this guy as a mature age international rookie

http://www.theage.com.au/world/nepal-ma ... 1twf0.html

, but the coach won't hire anyone taller than he is.

[bergholt]

FWIW we are also the oldest at 24yrs 277days and most experienced 83.3 games in the AFL

an article in the age today makes basically that point:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/n ... 1u3go.html

though it has us third oldest by a few weeks from the hawks and sydney. and a quote from watters:

''If we only played those in the 27-plus bracket every week and didn't expose some of our emerging talent, at some point there'd be a reckoning. Every week we have to have an eye on our immediate performance, but like any selection process, we need to have an eye on where we're going as well, so it's a balance.''

[Con Gorozidis]

subtle swipe at his predecessor. but lets not open that can of worms again.

[magnifisaint]

we have the fattest list of the AFL

[The Redeemer]

I am slightly concerned that we did not draft any talls in the draft just passed. My rationale is that the list is skewed to having our talls as the older players due to most being drafted around 2000-2002 and the midfielders followed from 2001-onwards so we need to regenerate as soon as possible.

I would hope that the previous draft was classified as a midfielders draft otherwise there is no excuses for not doing so. We need talls otherwise we are going to have to play the trading game.

[paddy]

We did get the big fella Jay Lever, but he wont be good to go for a couple of years yet.

draft this year was pretty short on talls (lol)... GWS got the manchild who was one of the few KPP that seemed worthwhile.

[jays]

lol didnt think we were

[on the outer]

"we did not draft any talls" ....... we did recruit Lever 198, Wilkes 194, Markworth 191, and rookied Staley 194 Dunnel 190. Any one of Lever, Wilkes or Staley could be considered KPP "talls".

[saintspremiers]

subtle swipe at his predecessor. but lets not open that can of worms again.

Fair point by Watters.

Was disgraceful what Lyon did to our list.

Has this been discussed before????

[clarky449]

subtle swipe at his predecessor. but lets not open that can of worms again.

Fair point by Watters.

Was disgraceful what Lyon did to our list.

Has this been discussed before????

"Disgraceful"
Just funny, really funny.

[crippa2sipa]

subtle swipe at his predecessor. but lets not open that can of worms again.

Fair point by Watters.

When he wants to be sure he's making a "fair point", Scotty loves quoting Rossy:

Rossy: "I think people are naive to think I just sit there and prepare on a weekly basis, and don't plan for the future... I understand there is a blend."

Scotty: "Every week we have to have an eye on our immediate performance, but like any selection process, we need to have an eye on where we're going as well, so it's a balance.''


Rossy: "birth certificates are out the window ..."

Scotty: "From day one, I've told them that their birth certificates are irrelevant."


(Give him time lads. Probably just a little overawed by his predecessor at the minute....)

[Con Gorozidis]

subtle swipe at his predecessor. but lets not open that can of worms again.

Fair point by Watters.

When he wants to be sure he's making a "fair point", Scotty loves quoting Rossy:

Rossy: "I think people are naive to think I just sit there and prepare on a weekly basis, and don't plan for the future... I understand there is a blend."

Scotty: "Every week we have to have an eye on our immediate performance, but like any selection process, we need to have an eye on where we're going as well, so it's a balance.''


Rossy: "birth certificates are out the window ..."

Scotty: "From day one, I've told them that their birth certificates are irrelevant."


(Give him time lads. Probably just a little overawed by his predecessor at the minute....)

u are a genuine douche c2s. The irony is those quotes you bestow on lyon - whom defending and lyonising (excuse the pun) seems your only reason to be on this forum - but stats show lyon paid nothing but lip service to these little quotes you seem to think are gems.
Can someone wheel out the stats please? I know I saw them but it showed we were the worst at getting games into youngeters in the afl in the past 5 years. So lyon was full of crap on this score.
Im happy for you to defend him as a good coach - he was/is but seriously dont try to pull one over me that he was also good on the development front. thats just one step far.

[SaintPav]

subtle swipe at his predecessor. but lets not open that can of worms again.

Fair point by Watters.

When he wants to be sure he's making a "fair point", Scotty loves quoting Rossy:

Rossy: "I think people are naive to think I just sit there and prepare on a weekly basis, and don't plan for the future... I understand there is a blend."

Scotty: "Every week we have to have an eye on our immediate performance, but like any selection process, we need to have an eye on where we're going as well, so it's a balance.''


Rossy: "birth certificates are out the window ..."

Scotty: "From day one, I've told them that their birth certificates are irrelevant."


(Give him time lads. Probably just a little overawed by his predecessor at the minute....)

bloody troll or what.

I give you this, you know a lot about St Kilda for someone who does not support them.

[crippa2sipa]

stats show lyon paid nothing but lip service to these little quotes you seem to think are gems.
Can someone wheel out the stats please?

Happy to do so. Ross made those statements in May 2011.

In 2011, the Saints blooded 8 - equal 4th most of any side.

During the previous years, Lyon placed us in a position to win 2 premierships.

If a coach like that is worth criticizing every 2 minutes for months on end, then I daresay we never deserved him in the first place.

[Old Mate]

seriously dude its a st kilda fan forum and we're gonna be biased in our views and if you're not happy with that f*** off to bigfooty. your defense of lyin is a bore.

[8856brother]

stats show lyon paid nothing but lip service to these little quotes you seem to think are gems.
Can someone wheel out the stats please?

Happy to do so. Ross made those statements in May 2011.

In 2011, the Saints blooded 8 - equal 4th most of any side.

During the previous years, Lyon placed us in a position to win 2 premierships.

If a coach like that is worth criticizing every 2 minutes for months on end, then I daresay we never deserved him in the first place.

I want to party with you and Clarky

Would be a hoot

[ace]

Don't know about the heights but with only 38 players on our senior and "veteran off the list" lists we have the least.
Teams are allowed 40 but the saints could not fit 2 more players under the salary cap.
That means we have the shortest list doesn't it.