Beau Wilkes
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Beau Wilkes
Where does everyone see Beau Wilkes heading this season. I know its very hard to tell without any footy being played yet but do we think he is going to play regular footy? Does he slot into the position left open by Zac?
I ask because he has the potential to be a supercoach bargain at $106,600
The question is, will he play and will he regularly get a game?
I ask because he has the potential to be a supercoach bargain at $106,600
The question is, will he play and will he regularly get a game?
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Re: Beau Wilkes
I would have thought Full Back but other Sainters over on Bigfooty believe he was training with the forward group in recent times. It will be very crowded up forward with ROO, KOSI, Stanley and Wilkes playing.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Unless you have Stanley down back (or not at all, which I hope isn't the case)?
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Saint_Ash wrote:Where does everyone see Beau Wilkes heading this season. I know its very hard to tell without any footy being played yet but do we think he is going to play regular footy? Does he slot into the position left open by Zac?
I ask because he has the potential to be a supercoach bargain at $106,600
The question is, will he play and will he regularly get a game?
Most people automatically assume Wilkes is a replacement for Zac.
I beg to differ. He should be seen as a direct replacement for Tommy Walsh
Same age/size/position/salary as Walsh. Also coming straight off a good season forward in the 2nd tier comp. So people should view him the same as Tommy Walsh.
For me this means the following:
Full Forward will be his preferred position. Will be moved back if Simpkin is getting toweled up.
Wont be a regular in side but will play a few games.
Might kick 20-30 for season if we are lucky and another 30 odd at Sandy.
Once kosi hangs them up - could end up a permanent FF in the seniors.
Re: Beau Wilkes
I think he is depth?
Maybe I'm wrong, but he would know that I think...nothing wrong with that either. We needed a backup tall.
Maybe I'm wrong, but he would know that I think...nothing wrong with that either. We needed a backup tall.
Re: Beau Wilkes
He's been at the level before and couldnt cut it... Sure he had a decent season at a seconds level, but he'd want to have come a long way to be a certain and constant stater for us... either that, or we've fallen away badly...
I dont see him as anything more than insurance in the case that Stanley, Simpkin, Ferg and or a few other potential talls fall away badly and we need another key position hole filled..
I'm hoping atleast 2 of the 3 guys mentioned above come on this year, and Blake will still be there abouts, and ahead of Wilkes...
So there isn't much room for him... And as a forward, there'd be no way we'd go into a match with forwards of Kosi, Roo, Stanley and Wilkes... It'd be 2 of them there at most at any given time... Stanley and Kosi rotating as second ruck, but no room for all 4 in the side plus BigMac...
I dont see him as anything more than insurance in the case that Stanley, Simpkin, Ferg and or a few other potential talls fall away badly and we need another key position hole filled..
I'm hoping atleast 2 of the 3 guys mentioned above come on this year, and Blake will still be there abouts, and ahead of Wilkes...
So there isn't much room for him... And as a forward, there'd be no way we'd go into a match with forwards of Kosi, Roo, Stanley and Wilkes... It'd be 2 of them there at most at any given time... Stanley and Kosi rotating as second ruck, but no room for all 4 in the side plus BigMac...
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Re: Beau Wilkes
As I said in another post, he was with the forward group at training so I assume he is considered a forward on WAFL form. Simpkin is about the only ready made back we have and must have been kept as a key back if one went down- he must offer a bit of value also. I would hope that Wilkes could play as a Lee brown style adaptable tall when needed. He is likely to get a chance because at his age they will be assuming he has a body that is ready to go.
Saad would be my pick to take a regular spot in the side and offer little outlay in supercoach.
Saad would be my pick to take a regular spot in the side and offer little outlay in supercoach.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Wilkes is going on 26 - So people should keep the expectations down. he wont be a star. But I think he will be a servicable big body for the next 3 years.gringo wrote:As I said in another post, he was with the forward group at training so I assume he is considered a forward on WAFL form. Simpkin is about the only ready made back we have and must have been kept as a key back if one went down- he must offer a bit of value also. I would hope that Wilkes could play as a Lee brown style adaptable tall when needed. He is likely to get a chance because at his age they will be assuming he has a body that is ready to go.
Saad would be my pick to take a regular spot in the side and offer little outlay in supercoach.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Bit harsh on the bloke .. He struggled to get going at west coast cause he was behind Lynch he also was played as a defender most of the games he got a west coast ... As far as I see it Wilkes is an upgrade on Gamble .. Much like Peake he will get his chance and if he performs well enough with those chances he will keep his spot in the team ... Not expecting a Colman or brownlow from him but he will be a handy player for us ...Sobraz wrote:He's been at the level before and couldnt cut it... Sure he had a decent season at a seconds level, but he'd want to have come a long way to be a certain and constant stater for us... either that, or we've fallen away badly...
I dont see him as anything more than insurance in the case that Stanley, Simpkin, Ferg and or a few other potential talls fall away badly and we need another key position hole filled..
I'm hoping atleast 2 of the 3 guys mentioned above come on this year, and Blake will still be there abouts, and ahead of Wilkes...
So there isn't much room for him... And as a forward, there'd be no way we'd go into a match with forwards of Kosi, Roo, Stanley and Wilkes... It'd be 2 of them there at most at any given time... Stanley and Kosi rotating as second ruck, but no room for all 4 in the side plus BigMac...
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Nicely put St Trav.st_Trav_ofWA wrote:Bit harsh on the bloke .. He struggled to get going at west coast cause he was behind Lynch he also was played as a defender most of the games he got a west coast ... As far as I see it Wilkes is an upgrade on Gamble .. Much like Peake he will get his chance and if he performs well enough with those chances he will keep his spot in the team ... Not expecting a Colman or brownlow from him but he will be a handy player for us ...Sobraz wrote:He's been at the level before and couldnt cut it... Sure he had a decent season at a seconds level, but he'd want to have come a long way to be a certain and constant stater for us... either that, or we've fallen away badly...
I dont see him as anything more than insurance in the case that Stanley, Simpkin, Ferg and or a few other potential talls fall away badly and we need another key position hole filled..
I'm hoping atleast 2 of the 3 guys mentioned above come on this year, and Blake will still be there abouts, and ahead of Wilkes...
So there isn't much room for him... And as a forward, there'd be no way we'd go into a match with forwards of Kosi, Roo, Stanley and Wilkes... It'd be 2 of them there at most at any given time... Stanley and Kosi rotating as second ruck, but no room for all 4 in the side plus BigMac...
I'm sure not many rated Heatley that highly when he first arrived here in similar circumstances.
And Pods was an old bloke playing in the 2nd tier comp when the Cats took a punt on him.
An output similar to either of those blokes would come in more than handy
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Agree with St Trav. 25yo. 194cm. 100kgs. 2nd heaviest guy on our list (after Ben).
Plenty of guys do well on their 2nd chance.
If we get 3-4 years (50 odd games) of service Ill be rapt!
Def an upgrade an Gamble - and to me a direct replacement for Tommy Walsh.
Plenty of guys do well on their 2nd chance.
If we get 3-4 years (50 odd games) of service Ill be rapt!
Def an upgrade an Gamble - and to me a direct replacement for Tommy Walsh.
Re: Beau Wilkes
Will be just like Gamble. On the outer most of the year.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
I reckon beau will give it more of a crack then Gamble did ... beau will work his butt off to make the first 22 Gamble didn't do enough in my opinionclarky449 wrote:Will be just like Gamble. On the outer most of the year.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
With Watters suggesting a change in forward personel and the "don't kick it to Roo" policy you'd imagine Beau will at least get a crack at some stage. Good luck to him, hope he proves the doomsayers wrong.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
I thought it was more that he did ok, but that Glass was better.....Sobraz wrote:He's been at the level before and couldnt cut it... ...
We have no Glass.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:I reckon beau will give it more of a crack then Gamble did ... beau will work his butt off to make the first 22 Gamble didn't do enough in my opinionclarky449 wrote:Will be just like Gamble. On the outer most of the year.
How do you know he didn't do enough?
His training
His recovery
How do you know he didn't do enough? Because he was an average player the 2 hrs you got to see him?
A lot of average players works hard. Sometimes harder. But how the hell are we supposed to know.
Re: Beau Wilkes
To answer the original post none of us can be sure. NAB cup will give a good indication... IMO there are probably better scorers anyway.
As for his spot, would be vying with Head for back spot and Rhys for fwd spot - depending on Watters plans for him, ability to play at either end does his chances no harm!
As for his spot, would be vying with Head for back spot and Rhys for fwd spot - depending on Watters plans for him, ability to play at either end does his chances no harm!
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Re: Beau Wilkes
SainterK wrote:^ If I can recall, something to do with shoelaces
His arms? You speak in such riddles I usually have no idea what you are insinuating...
He looks to lack gym... But some ppl just don't grow. Input doesn't equal output.
Re: Beau Wilkes
Nah, with Gamble....Bernard Shakey once made reference to his football ability based on how he looked after his footy boots (which he didn't do very well)Spinner wrote:SainterK wrote:^ If I can recall, something to do with shoelaces
His arms? You speak in such riddles I usually have no idea what you are insinuating...
He looks to lack gym... But some ppl just don't grow. Input doesn't equal output.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Interesting that so many think he will be competing with Stanley for a fwd spot, what has Stanley done to make us think he is going to be better than last year? Would have thought on last years form Sipposs would be in front of Stanley for a Fwd spot!
Maybe this year?
Re: Beau Wilkes
It's not so much what Stanley has done as Watters reference to him in his media work.rexy wrote:Interesting that so many think he will be competing with Stanley for a fwd spot, what has Stanley done to make us think he is going to be better than last year? Would have thought on last years form Sipposs would be in front of Stanley for a Fwd spot!
Wilkes is a big body and we have few of them - if he can have an impact great.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
Gamble was a poor selection in that he was picked as a small defensive goal sneak. He lacked a bit of pace and x factor. Was servicable just not what we needed to go forward.
Saad and Milera are the type we could have used last year, both pacy and a little bit of the x factor about them.
Saad and Milera are the type we could have used last year, both pacy and a little bit of the x factor about them.
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Agree, its based on Watters' comment. Plus, Siposs and stanley are very different players.PJ wrote:It's not so much what Stanley has done as Watters reference to him in his media work.rexy wrote:Interesting that so many think he will be competing with Stanley for a fwd spot, what has Stanley done to make us think he is going to be better than last year? Would have thought on last years form Sipposs would be in front of Stanley for a Fwd spot!
Wilkes is a big body and we have few of them - if he can have an impact great.
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Re: Beau Wilkes
I think Sipposs has got first shot at half forward flank in front of Markworth. Clearly a position we have been lacking in.rexy wrote:Interesting that so many think he will be competing with Stanley for a fwd spot, what has Stanley done to make us think he is going to be better than last year? Would have thought on last years form Sipposs would be in front of Stanley for a Fwd spot!
Wilkes and Stanley are more tall forwards. Think they will be competing with Kosi, unless more of a roving type role is created for Kosi, similar to how Leigh Brown played.