At the end of 2012 who will be our best 5?

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At the end of 2012 who will be our best 5?

Post: # 1188111Post gringo »

Time to get predicting! Who will be our best 5 players at the end of 2012 season?

Who are the 5 improving fringe players already on the list?

Which 5 will break into the regular team from outside our current best 22?

My best 5 at the end of 2012 are:

Dal santo- Brownlow medal after another year of consistent footy

Goddard- a year late will become AFL elite

Fisher- another solid defensive effort with more responsibility on him.

Riewoldt- A huge year for rooey with a new game style and a freed up knee.

Gilbert- The big running back will tear up the comp with his dash and mobility, holding out Montagna and Milne from the top 5.


Improvers from the current list fringe:

Mc Evoy- not on the fringe but takes the next step to become an A grade ruckman

Steven- Big year from the centre square with increased fitness and no injuries.

Gram- back to his running, bombing style after his groin settles down

Kosi- Yes this year really was the one he finally clicked into gear.

Armo- the human wrecking ball barrels the packs giving first use to outside mids all year.


Big improvers from ouutside the best 22 are:

Cripps- shows his elite skills with more game time

Geary- becomes a regular with his aggressive game style.

Ferguson- gets games and shows he has elite talent at this level.

Simpkin- the good Tommy stayed and will hold the backline together with his determined effort.

Ledger- shows why he is a favourite despite being lighter than an alley cat.


Interested in hearing from some of the snipers who love to remind everyone of their poor predictions on this one.


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Post: # 1188116Post citywest »

Kosi is s*** and was a massive blunder picking him at number 2 in the National Draft. Harsh but true. (Injuries have played a part though).


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Post: # 1188118Post Con Gorozidis »

NDS is our best player.

Steven will be a big bolter I reckon. 3 pre-seasons under his belt now.

As for Rooey - well 2012 will define him. UsSaiunts fan know how much he has bled for the club but the harsh reality is to the rest of the footy world if he is as poor in 2012 as he was in 2011 he will always be known as an over hyped blonde poonce who couldnt kick for goal. The media will have well and truly moved on to Buddy Love and maybe even Jack Watts love.
If he has a good 2012 - he will be considered a champ.


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Post: # 1188120Post plugger66 »

Con Gorozidis wrote:NDS is our best player.

Steven will be a big bolter I reckon. 3 pre-seasons under his belt now.

As for Rooey - well 2012 will define him. UsSaiunts fan know how much he has bled for the club but the harsh reality is to the rest of the footy world if he is as poor in 2012 as he was in 2011 he will always be known as an over hyped blonde poonce who couldnt kick for goal. The media will have well and truly moved on to Buddy Love and maybe even Jack Watts love.
If he has a good 2012 - he will be considered a champ.
That is ridiculously harsh on Rooy. He has on 5 B&F's. The media think he is a champ who had a poor year. If he has another poor year he will have been a champ on the way down.


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plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:NDS is our best player.

Steven will be a big bolter I reckon. 3 pre-seasons under his belt now.

As for Rooey - well 2012 will define him. UsSaiunts fan know how much he has bled for the club but the harsh reality is to the rest of the footy world if he is as poor in 2012 as he was in 2011 he will always be known as an over hyped blonde poonce who couldnt kick for goal. The media will have well and truly moved on to Buddy Love and maybe even Jack Watts love.
If he has a good 2012 - he will be considered a champ.
That is ridiculously harsh on Rooy. He has on 5 B&F's. The media think he is a champ who had a poor year. If he has another poor year he will have been a champ on the way down.
I'm still worried about his knee...


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Post: # 1188134Post Con Gorozidis »

plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:NDS is our best player.

Steven will be a big bolter I reckon. 3 pre-seasons under his belt now.

As for Rooey - well 2012 will define him. UsSaiunts fan know how much he has bled for the club but the harsh reality is to the rest of the footy world if he is as poor in 2012 as he was in 2011 he will always be known as an over hyped blonde ponce who couldnt kick for goal. The media will have well and truly moved on to Buddy Love and maybe even Jack Watts love.
If he has a good 2012 - he will be considered a champ.
That is ridiculously harsh on Rooy. He has on 5 B&F's. The media think he is a champ who had a poor year. If he has another poor year he will have been a champ on the way down.
i wasnt saying what i think of him. i was saying what non-saints fans think of him.


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Re: At the end of 2012 who will be our best 5?

Post: # 1188137Post SaintSimmo »

Who will be our best 5 players at the end of 2012 season?
Dal Santo
Goddard
Fisher
Riewoldt
Hayes

Who are the 5 improving fringe players already on the list?
Armitage
Ray
Geary
Stanley

* Can't think of anyone else!!

Which 5 will break into the regular team from outside our current best 22?
Curren
Cripps
Ledger
Siposs
Simpkin


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Who will be our best 5 players at the end of 2012 season?
Dal Santo
Goddard
Fisher
Mcevoy
Hayes

Who are the 5 improving fringe players already on the list?
Armitage
Steven
Geary
Gilbert ( after last years effort he became fringe )
Kosi ( Finally )

Which 5 will break into the regular team from outside our current best 22?
Archer
Cripps
Ledger
Siposs
Simpkin


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Post: # 1188161Post Stillwaiting »

Dal
Goddard
Roo, hopfully he will be injury free and get some help up foward
Fischer
Lenny

McEvoy and Steven will be very close to the top 5


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Post: # 1188162Post The Redeemer »

The usual suspects and so they should. If a few of them get AA then we become a much better team with (hopefully) the natural progression of a few youngens.

Is it good enough to win a GF? Probably not although out core group is quality.


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Post: # 1188166Post Con Gorozidis »

I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy


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Post: # 1188167Post plugger66 »

Con Gorozidis wrote:I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy
Is it April Fools day. What is your first paragraph about?


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Con Gorozidis wrote:I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy
If Goddard goes then what is the point of having NDS and Fisher on the list?


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plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:NDS is our best player.

Steven will be a big bolter I reckon. 3 pre-seasons under his belt now.

As for Rooey - well 2012 will define him. UsSaiunts fan know how much he has bled for the club but the harsh reality is to the rest of the footy world if he is as poor in 2012 as he was in 2011 he will always be known as an over hyped blonde poonce who couldnt kick for goal. The media will have well and truly moved on to Buddy Love and maybe even Jack Watts love.
If he has a good 2012 - he will be considered a champ.
That is ridiculously harsh on Rooy. He has on 5 B&F's. The media think he is a champ who had a poor year. If he has another poor year he will have been a champ on the way down.
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Re: At the end of 2012 who will be our best 5?

Post: # 1188178Post St Ick »

Who will be our best 5 players at the end of 2012 season?
Dal Santo
Goddard
Fisher
Montagna
Hayes
(Steven a roughie to explode now Hayes is back but I sont have the balls to put him in top 5 at the end of the year, definite breakout potential though)

Who are the 5 improving fringe players already on the list?
Armitage
Ray
Peake
Stanley
Siposs


Which 5 will break into the regular team from outside our current best 22?
Curren
Cripps
Saad
Wilkes
Simpkin


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Post: # 1188180Post Con Gorozidis »

The Redeemer wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy
If Goddard goes then what is the point of having NDS and Fisher on the list?
well this all after we won the flag this year remember!
lendog and milney will want to go out on top like crawf did.


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plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy
Is it April Fools day. What is your first paragraph about?
nonsense. if goddard wants to go to gws they will just take him for free, keep their pick, and we'll get compo.


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Rosco wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy
Is it April Fools day. What is your first paragraph about?
nonsense. if goddard wants to go to gws they will just take him for free, keep their pick, and we'll get compo.
Sorry I didnt realise you wanted Lenny and Milney to retire too even though this year hasnt started.


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Not sure/haven't got time to answer all of the OP's questions, however I think the single most important player on our list - bar none - is Ben McEvoy.


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Quixote wrote:Not sure/haven't got time to answer all of the OP's questions, however I think the single most important player on our list - bar none - is Ben McEvoy.
He will be a lot more effective if he learns how to jump and gives first use instead of being an oversized midfielder. :o


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Kosi will not improve. He is an average footballer.


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Post: # 1188192Post whiskers3614 »

Doesn't need to improve.Just needs to get on the ground injury free most weeks.


Riewoldt and Goddard to live up to their reputations ,Clarke and Ray to defy theirs in 2012!
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citywest wrote:Kosi is s*** and was a massive blunder picking him at number 2 in the National Draft. Harsh but true. (Injuries have played a part though).
Reinventing history???

1/ (Injuries have played a part though) contradicts the picking process as that is largely unpredictable and in Kosi's case he was fit and durable in his first year...with Roo the then injury prone one.


2/ Look at the Top 10 take,,, Kosi as No 2 stacks up ok, and hardly justifies your massive blunder statement.

sure in hindsight Didak would most likely have been bette for us...but massive blunder? err no.

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1 Priority St Kilda Nick Riewoldt St Kilda 219
2 Priority St Kilda Justin Koschitzke St Kilda 176
3 Priority Collingwood Alan Didak Collingwood 202
1 4 Carlton Luke Livingston 46
1 5 West Coast Andrew McDougall 43
1 6 North Melbourne Dylan Smith 21
1 7 Adelaide Laurence Angwin 4
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Post: # 1188196Post Rosco »

plugger66 wrote:
Rosco wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I think after 2012 - Lendog and milney should hang them up and we should trade BJ to GWS for a top 10 pick.

Top 5
NDS
Fisher
Gilbo
Steven
McEvoy
Is it April Fools day. What is your first paragraph about?
nonsense. if goddard wants to go to gws they will just take him for free, keep their pick, and we'll get compo.
Sorry I didnt realise you wanted Lenny and Milney to retire too even though this year hasnt started.
?

for me, BJ must not be traded ever (barring a ridiculously good offer) and lenny & milne to play as long as they want and as long as they are still effective, i reckon at least 2 more seasons each.


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elizabethr wrote:
Quixote wrote:Not sure/haven't got time to answer all of the OP's questions, however I think the single most important player on our list - bar none - is Ben McEvoy.
He will be a lot more effective if he learns how to jump and gives first use instead of being an oversized midfielder. :o
That's cool.

But what would happen if Macca did his knee in Round 1? :idea:


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