Ross Lyon was a crap coach wasnt he?stinger wrote:clarky449 wrote:stinger wrote:he's 25 years of age...just approaching his prime and was originally a top 20 selection...yes he can get better...and he will under a better coach.....![]()
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Dean Polo - can he go up another level?
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touchy, big fella? you don't like it, argue with me about it. i wasn't telling you what to post, i was just saying you were wrong, and judging from your reaction you acknowledge that.stinger wrote:no i couldn't...because they are mainly duds...none of them as good as polo....how about you not giving me advice about what i can and cannot post..or say...ffs...it's just my opinion....and you have yours.....
thanks, that's very gracious of you. it's just the entire tone of your post that queered it for me. we're all wrong sometimes. maybe consider the possibility that you might have been rather than getting defensive.stinger wrote:ps...it's really only your last sentence that queered your post for me.....
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I think the feeling is that Watters will take players as individuals and tailor programs and build confidence to improve their football. Ross was more of the tough love type, perform or go.
At collingwood Watters has been credited with developing his backline players and instilling self belief. polo looks like the type that might need someone to give him some belief.
If you saw his first game he looked like the next Judd.
At collingwood Watters has been credited with developing his backline players and instilling self belief. polo looks like the type that might need someone to give him some belief.
If you saw his first game he looked like the next Judd.
bergholt wrote:touchy, big fella? you don't like it, argue with me about it. i wasn't telling you what to post, i was just saying you were wrong, and judging from your reaction you acknowledge that.stinger wrote:no i couldn't...because they are mainly duds...none of them as good as polo....how about you not giving me advice about what i can and cannot post..or say...ffs...it's just my opinion....and you have yours.....
thanks, that's very gracious of you. it's just the entire tone of your post that queered it for me. we're all wrong sometimes. maybe consider the possibility that you might have been rather than getting defensive.stinger wrote:ps...it's really only your last sentence that queered your post for me.....
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Just where exactly did he say that Lyon was a crap coach?????clarky449 wrote:Ross Lyon was a crap coach wasnt he?stinger wrote:clarky449 wrote:stinger wrote:he's 25 years of age...just approaching his prime and was originally a top 20 selection...yes he can get better...and he will under a better coach.....![]()
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Just where did i say he did?Devilhead wrote:Just where exactly did he say that Lyon was a crap coach?????clarky449 wrote:Ross Lyon was a crap coach wasnt he?stinger wrote:clarky449 wrote:stinger wrote:he's 25 years of age...just approaching his prime and was originally a top 20 selection...yes he can get better...and he will under a better coach.....![]()
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thanks mate...you make a good point...i never have.....called him a lot of other things though...Devilhead wrote:Just where exactly did he say that Lyon was a crap coach?????clarky449 wrote:Ross Lyon was a crap coach wasnt he?stinger wrote:clarky449 wrote:stinger wrote:he's 25 years of age...just approaching his prime and was originally a top 20 selection...yes he can get better...and he will under a better coach.....![]()
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Why don't we just say "Polo may get better under a different coach" and all live happily ever after?stinger wrote:thanks mate...you make a good point...i never have.....called him a lot of other things though...Devilhead wrote:Just where exactly did he say that Lyon was a crap coach?????clarky449 wrote:Ross Lyon was a crap coach wasnt he?stinger wrote:clarky449 wrote:stinger wrote:he's 25 years of age...just approaching his prime and was originally a top 20 selection...yes he can get better...and he will under a better coach.....![]()
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1st choice mids: Lenny, Dal, BJ, Joey, Armo, Steven, Peake, Rayhungry for a premiership wrote:I see Polo as in a similar vein to Clint Jones. Not blessed with great skill, but a hard nut who wins the ball.
Of course, Jones has been a consistent performer for a number of years and has had games where he has dominated. Polo could potentially get to around this level if the planets align for him.
Back-up: Jones, Dempster, Polo
Youth: Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Ross
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With Lenny coming back, can't really see a role for Polo. I expect Armo to play more through the middle this year, and with Lenny, Armo, Steven, Dal, Jones as inside mids ahead of him, I reckon that Polo is up against it to find himself a spot this year.
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Agree with you for once BM. Think he needs to get 100% out of himself, all of the time, to even be considered. If he is fully committed he will always be on the fringe and a respectable replacement. If he drops his guard by a few % he wont get a game IMO.BigMart wrote:He is strong for a mid, a pretty good endurance runner, he can find the ball...uses it well by hand
His skill level by foot is woeful by afl standards, he is not quick...and an average decision maker - mainly due to his limitations
He has no outstanding qualities IMO and is handy for depth, but should not be in the seniors in front of a talented kid - cripps, ledger, even Ross now
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We took Dean Polo at pick #103 in the draft. For that he's been extremely good value IMO. After Lenny went down he performed admirably as an in an under midfielder this season. Sure he's never going to be Nathan Buckley but I can't imagine why anyone would see him as anything other than an absolute bargain pick up after his efforts in 2011.
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The problem with these 'insurance' players is that they inevitably take games away from youngsters, they're really only useful if you are challenging for a flag otherwise I think it just denies the younger guy valuable experience, which slows down overall development.
Like Gamble ahead of Walsh, Lynch and Siposs at times this year…
Polo did a good job this year, but I would really like to see some young guns trialled more next year.
Like Gamble ahead of Walsh, Lynch and Siposs at times this year…
Polo did a good job this year, but I would really like to see some young guns trialled more next year.
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If he could just make a leap to be a handy running back to fill in for Gwilt and play to a standard similar Farren I'd be happy. would be worth holding onto.cwrcyn wrote:Can be used to protect younger bodies from the midfield battering. Handy back-up, but would need to take a quantum leap to be one of our top midfielders.
Kicking is third rate.
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He needs to be replaced with someone who has better footskills. Skill errors equal turnovers equal goals against. This loses games. His upside does not outweigh his downside. I'd rather magner, marigliani or Horsley given a go in preference as they may still develop whereas I don't see Polo getting better at his game.
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Ah the Cloke effect again, you forgot the Q Stick this time. I agree get rid of the glove.plugger66 wrote:Yep it really effected Cloke this year.BigMart wrote:I know blokes at my local club who are tough.....that alone wont cut the mustard....but I do see your point
He is an honest trier.....needs to get rid of the glove (I am serious)
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I'm not so sure he is such a bad kick, more suffers under pressure, that can be worked on and goes as they play more games and confidence grows.Bardon Saint wrote:He needs to be replaced with someone who has better footskills. Skill errors equal turnovers equal goals against. This loses games. His upside does not outweigh his downside. I'd rather magner, marigliani or Horsley given a go in preference as they may still develop whereas I don't see Polo getting better at his game.
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