And Pup and Smith are both beasts. I hope the Pelican does as well this year.Sick Nal Danto wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Pelchen took a mature age with pick 42
He did it last year at the hawks with Isaac Smith at pick 19
and later on with puopolo at 66
I guess it all comes down to what the talent is like when our picks come round
P.s - Anyone hoping for Grigg to be available at 35 is dreaming, he is not fast but has a killer left foot and can find the ball.......remind you if anyone (Nicky Dal)
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I think Grigg is one of the more interesting stories of the draft... Has fantastic skills, but is slow as glaciers. Had a pretty awful combine, which really confirmed what many recruiters had already thought about him. Still, there is a chance some clubs may pounce early (i reckon Richmond are a chance), but then with so many clubs only getting one 1st round pick, they may not want to be too speculative, meaning he could drift a bit. Honestly, I reckon 35 is too much to hope for (also considering Geelong could grab him, although they are more likely to go tall with Bosely and Bolger), but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility.Sick Nal Danto wrote:
P.s - Anyone hoping for Grigg to be available at 35 is dreaming, he is not fast but has a killer left foot and can find the ball.......remind you if anyone (Nicky Dal)
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We need speed...
[/quote]I think Grigg is one of the more interesting stories of the draft... Has fantastic skills, but is slow as glaciers. Had a pretty awful combine, which really confirmed what many recruiters had already thought about him. Still, there is a chance some clubs may pounce early (i reckon Richmond are a chance), but then with so many clubs only getting one 1st round pick, they may not want to be too speculative, meaning he could drift a bit. Honestly, I reckon 35 is too much to hope for (also considering Geelong could grab him, although they are more likely to go tall with Bosely and Bolger), but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility.[/quote]
The last thing we need is another slow midfielder. If they take midfileders early they will go with guy with break away speed or great quick ball carriers.
I wouldn't be surprised if we took at least two mature recruits with our later selections, a mature ruckman and mature KP backman. Selection 75 will be to relist BLAKE.
I am still hoping ARCHER or SIMPKIN can fill the full back position and that will allow us to recruit key forwards and quick mids.
The last thing we need is another slow midfielder. If they take midfileders early they will go with guy with break away speed or great quick ball carriers.
I wouldn't be surprised if we took at least two mature recruits with our later selections, a mature ruckman and mature KP backman. Selection 75 will be to relist BLAKE.
I am still hoping ARCHER or SIMPKIN can fill the full back position and that will allow us to recruit key forwards and quick mids.
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My draft stategy is different from the normal St Kilda strategy.
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From Emma Quayle interview:
“Who are the 5-10 most likely mature aged draftee hopefuls that will get drafted/rookied?
Now this is the one thing clubs are good at keeping secret! There will be a few surprises. Would love to see Lee Spurr picked up from SA, I was a big fan 5 years ago when he played u18s for Qld but none of the recruiters would listen to meâ€
“Who are the 5-10 most likely mature aged draftee hopefuls that will get drafted/rookied?
Now this is the one thing clubs are good at keeping secret! There will be a few surprises. Would love to see Lee Spurr picked up from SA, I was a big fan 5 years ago when he played u18s for Qld but none of the recruiters would listen to meâ€
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Re: Draft Strategy
[quote="derby Street"][quote="Gershwin"]Interesting to reflect on a couple of comments by Emma Quayle:
“This isn't an ideal draft to be heavily invested in - it's a GWS-diluted poolâ€
“This isn't an ideal draft to be heavily invested in - it's a GWS-diluted poolâ€
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If he pulls another one like them out of the hat it will be terrific. Especially since we've already nabbed Saad and Milera for bugger-all.saintsfreak wrote:And Pup and Smith are both beasts. I hope the Pelican does as well this year.Sick Nal Danto wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Pelchen took a mature age with pick 42
He did it last year at the hawks with Isaac Smith at pick 19
and later on with puopolo at 66
I guess it all comes down to what the talent is like when our picks come round
P.s - Anyone hoping for Grigg to be available at 35 is dreaming, he is not fast but has a killer left foot and can find the ball.......remind you if anyone (Nicky Dal)
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I'd love to see this (Not saying it will happen, but I'd love to see it)
25- Todd Elton
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=123377
35- Mitch Grigg
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=121432
37- Clay Smith
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=124594
42- Tom Downie
60- Ben Darrou http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=120636
66- Kyal Horsley
69- Jason Blake
I would be extremely happy with this.
Whether it happens or not?
25- Todd Elton
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=123377
35- Mitch Grigg
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=121432
37- Clay Smith
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=124594
42- Tom Downie
60- Ben Darrou http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=120636
66- Kyal Horsley
69- Jason Blake
I would be extremely happy with this.
Whether it happens or not?
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Serious question:
FEV as second ruck/resting FF.
People will tell me he won't be as good around the ground as Cox, Nat,. But he marks well, and can jump, so let's assume he can spoil.
No good at ground level, but there aren't many rucks these days who are - seriously Natanui is the exception.
Go into games with Fev, Mac and Kozzi to play FF, the rest, and play ruck.
What do people think?
FEV as second ruck/resting FF.
People will tell me he won't be as good around the ground as Cox, Nat,. But he marks well, and can jump, so let's assume he can spoil.
No good at ground level, but there aren't many rucks these days who are - seriously Natanui is the exception.
Go into games with Fev, Mac and Kozzi to play FF, the rest, and play ruck.
What do people think?
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Fev has never played Ruck. we would be thrashed furing the ruck contests.groupie1 wrote:Serious question:
FEV as second ruck/resting FF.
People will tell me he won't be as good around the ground as Cox, Nat,. But he marks well, and can jump, so let's assume he can spoil.
No good at ground level, but there aren't many rucks these days who are - seriously Natanui is the exception.
Go into games with Fev, Mac and Kozzi to play FF, the rest, and play ruck.
What do people think?
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Interesting but I was thinking maybe full back given that Zac is gone.saintly wrote:groupie1 wrote:Serious question:
FEV as second ruck/resting FF.
People will tell me he won't be as good around the ground as Cox, Nat,. But he marks well, and can jump, so let's assume he can spoil.
No good at ground level, but there aren't many rucks these days who are - seriously Natanui is the exception.
Go into games with Fev, Mac and Kozzi to play FF, the rest, and play ruck.
What do people think?
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Bit more info on:sax wrote:I'd love to see this (Not saying it will happen, but I'd love to see it)
25- Todd Elton
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=123377
35- Mitch Grigg
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=121432
37- Clay Smith
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=124594
42- Tom Downie
60- Ben Darrou http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/ ... sId=120636
66- Kyal Horsley
69- Jason Blake
I would be extremely happy with this.
Whether it happens or not?
Elton
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default ... sid=125523
Smith
http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default ... sid=126092
Chad Sandilands, i cant believe there is such little buzz about him. He's SANDILANDS. Yeh atm hes is only 204cms
and skinny, but he is Aarons brother and is still growing. Aaron was also a bit of a project, but he is arguably the best ruckman in the league. I cant see why we wouldn't try to jumpe on him at pick 68 when he is tipped to go like 70s
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The media draft experts are tweeting madly.
Names being linked to St Kilda are:
James Magner - killing it at training - Sandingham B&F strong midfielder
Kyal Horsley - mature-aged midfielder Subiaco
Alex Woodward - small mid - Sandringham Dragons
Tom Downie - 205cm ex basketballer Nth Ballarat Rebels
Names being linked to St Kilda are:
James Magner - killing it at training - Sandingham B&F strong midfielder
Kyal Horsley - mature-aged midfielder Subiaco
Alex Woodward - small mid - Sandringham Dragons
Tom Downie - 205cm ex basketballer Nth Ballarat Rebels
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I really think we'll see some serious sliders. I have seen Haynes selected from top10 through to 40s. Similar with Grigg. I can see a slider coming to pick 25. There will be a couple of kids at 35 and 37. Then a couple of 21-24 year olds to cover our lack of depth in that age bracket.thirty-seven!? wrote:I think Grigg is one of the more interesting stories of the draft... Has fantastic skills, but is slow as glaciers. Had a pretty awful combine, which really confirmed what many recruiters had already thought about him. Still, there is a chance some clubs may pounce early (i reckon Richmond are a chance), but then with so many clubs only getting one 1st round pick, they may not want to be too speculative, meaning he could drift a bit. Honestly, I reckon 35 is too much to hope for (also considering Geelong could grab him, although they are more likely to go tall with Bosely and Bolger), but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility.Sick Nal Danto wrote:
P.s - Anyone hoping for Grigg to be available at 35 is dreaming, he is not fast but has a killer left foot and can find the ball.......remind you if anyone (Nicky Dal)
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I really think we'll see some serious sliders. I have seen Haynes selected from top10 through to 40s. Similar with Grigg. I can see a slider coming to pick 25. There will be a couple of kids at 35 and 37. Then a couple of 21-24 year olds to cover our lack of depth in that age bracket.thirty-seven!? wrote:I think Grigg is one of the more interesting stories of the draft... Has fantastic skills, but is slow as glaciers. Had a pretty awful combine, which really confirmed what many recruiters had already thought about him. Still, there is a chance some clubs may pounce early (i reckon Richmond are a chance), but then with so many clubs only getting one 1st round pick, they may not want to be too speculative, meaning he could drift a bit. Honestly, I reckon 35 is too much to hope for (also considering Geelong could grab him, although they are more likely to go tall with Bosely and Bolger), but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility.Sick Nal Danto wrote:
P.s - Anyone hoping for Grigg to be available at 35 is dreaming, he is not fast but has a killer left foot and can find the ball.......remind you if anyone (Nicky Dal)
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yeah, i reckon the fact that GWS has so many of the early picks means that a few mids will slide - mids that would have been snapped up if it was 1 pick per club for the first 18 picks. because GWS isn't going to pick 8 mids in their 11 picks, don't need that many. still, i agree that our first pick needs to be for some size (KP fwd and/or back), but with some luck there may be some decent mids sliding to our picks in the 30s.
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Out of interest, who are the 'draft experts' you are following??Gershwin wrote:The media draft experts are tweeting madly.
Names being linked to St Kilda are:
James Magner - killing it at training - Sandingham B&F strong midfielder
Kyal Horsley - mature-aged midfielder Subiaco
Alex Woodward - small mid - Sandringham Dragons
Tom Downie - 205cm ex basketballer Nth Ballarat Rebels