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Re: Saints delistings - OFFICIAL

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plugger66 wrote:
SaintPav wrote:2008 draft was a disaster.
Yep.
Debacle. Only Simpkin and Stanley left standing.


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saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Perhaps there is still an indication that a few will walk for more $ bob?

Ray, Dawson, Peake, Raph?


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Post: # 1168962Post borderbarry »

Surprised if Gamble goes. He did get a brownlow vote in one game this year. Cant be on big money I would not think.


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Post: # 1168964Post dcstkfc »

Johnson is as much about attitude and professionalism as anything else I reckon.


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Post: # 1168965Post saintbob »

SainterK wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Perhaps there is still an indication that a few will walk for more $ bob?

Ray, Dawson, Peake, Raph?
Well, we can only hope SainterK!!

Although I'd like to see Ray hang around, but I suppose it all depends on how much money he wants or needs.


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Post: # 1168967Post dcstkfc »

We are going to be so bad in 2015.


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SainterK wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Perhaps there is still an indication that a few will walk for more $ bob?

Ray, Dawson, Peake, Raph?
Dont think anyone will be offering peake or raph anything.

Didnt dawson sign last week?


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Post: # 1168970Post Dr Spaceman »

borderbarry wrote:Cant see any reference to our delisting players anywhere at the moment.
The media had about 4 weeks & 400 guesses to get our coach right. What's the odds of them getting the delistings right with one crack? :?


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Perhaps the intention is to just cut the kids that they don't c making it now. Next year all the war-horses may move on (Blake, Polo, Raph, Kosi? Hayes?) allowing us to get some picks in the awesome 2012 draft. By getting 6-8 new kids this year, it allows us to at least get a year of development into them and see how they go. No point giving another year of development into Heyne, Gamble etc who are a known quantity. We can also hold onto the likes of Blake etc as they will b better back up next year if needed.

Does make some sense when u think about it.


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Post: # 1168973Post Dr Spaceman »

thirty-seven!? wrote:Perhaps the intention is to just cut the kids that they don't c making it now. Next year all the war-horses may move on (Blake, Polo, Raph, Kosi? Hayes?) allowing us to get some picks in the awesome 2012 draft. By getting 6-8 new kids this year, it allows us to at least get a year of development into them and see how they go. No point giving another year of development into Heyne, Gamble etc who are a known quantity. We can also hold onto the likes of Blake etc as they will b better back up next year if needed.

Does make some sense when u think about it.
It does, but I just felt one of those taller blokes may have hung on with the sudden departure of your avatar.


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Post: # 1168975Post gringo »

saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.


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wait and see what happens


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gringo wrote:Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.
Some are 'list-cloggers' more than others, but the flawed players who most expected to be shopped around/shipped off are Gram, Jones, Gilbert, Clarke, Ray, Polo, Dawson, Peake and Geary.

Obviously not all would go, but it is surprising that we have kept every one of them. Though I still wouldn't be shocked if Ray or Peake ended up leaving for SC reasons.


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gringo wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.
WE NEARLY WON 2 FLAGS COS OUR TOP 10 ARE SO DARN GOOD.


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Now we need to recruit some players to join them. Hopefully we already have two.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
gringo wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.
WE NEARLY WON 2 FLAGS COS OUR TOP 10 ARE SO DARN GOOD.
which 10? So if we sacked all but 10 any one else should be good enough to get us there again. Why don't we just get like any suburban footy players to be chicanes for the best 10.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
gringo wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.
WE NEARLY WON 2 FLAGS COS OUR TOP 10 ARE SO DARN GOOD.
Surely the sides we played in the GF had as good if not better top 10 than ours.


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Post: # 1169017Post elizabethr »

plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
gringo wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.
WE NEARLY WON 2 FLAGS COS OUR TOP 10 ARE SO DARN GOOD.
Surely the sides we played in the GF had as good if not better top 10 than ours.
Without doubt this is true.


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thats why they won


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Post: # 1169028Post saint6 »

BigMart wrote:thats why they won
Actually geelong won in 2009 because of inaccurate kicking for goal by the saints forwards (and a fairly dodgy decision to award tom hawkins a goal when the ball clearly hit the post)
In 2010 a dodgy bounce cost us the first grand final
So can't agree with you


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dcstkfc wrote:Johnson is as much about attitude and professionalism as anything else I reckon.
Did he have a bad attitude?


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Have any of these names been confirmed yet? Tweets? Anything?


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elizabethr wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:
gringo wrote:
saintbob wrote:This is so typical, faced with hard decisions this club continually takes the easy way out.

Delisting kids, who are mostly likely on minimum match payments, does F@&K ALL to relieve the salary cap problems we have.

Instead we keep under performing and over paid list cloggers!!!
Who are these list cloggers? The irony is that now
lyon has gone the idea that we have a mass of unskilled players is still going. The list was good enough to go close to two premierships but is filled with cloggers? Coaches only get you so far, these guys were good enough then and with some talent coming in should still be a good team.
WE NEARLY WON 2 FLAGS COS OUR TOP 10 ARE SO DARN GOOD.
Surely the sides we played in the GF had as good if not better top 10 than ours.
Without doubt this is true.
no doubt they both had a better second 10.

ill give u a straight example - noone picked up eddy when he left us but toovey would have found a home if he left the pies. both 22nd players.
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HitTheBoundary wrote:Have any of these names been confirmed yet? Tweets? Anything?
No and Crocmedia haven't gone with it either


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Con Gorozidis wrote: no doubt they had a batter second 10.
Yep, and they grilled us.


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