IMO, forward coach should be priority

[SainterK]

Nothing against Kingsley, but I'd like someone who has experience in the forwards area this time around.

It's an area Saints have struggled in for too long, and surely needs more attention.

Not much out there, dare I say Wayne Carey, who worked one on one with Roo in 2009 (from memory) and appeared to impact him at the time.

Or is it to much of a risk?

I'm just struggling to think of anyone else who could impart some, well I guess arrogance / belief, into the forward line?

[Animal Enclosure]

The best one we have had in recent memory was Terry Daniher.

He did have Hamill, Gehrig & a fit Roo to work with though!

When Thomas moved him to backline coach for the next season the forward line went to shite.

[borderbarry]

But if you remember he improved the defence no end.

[WinnersOnly]

See if Hamill wants the gig? At least the forward line would play with a bit of ticker !

[Royston]

The best one we have had in recent memory was Terry Daniher.

He did have Hamill, Gehrig & a fit Roo to work with though!

When Thomas moved him to backline coach for the next season the forward line went to shite.

Reckon Tudor was good also.

Tudor was coming off a low base with the previous being John Barker - he was as useful as tits on a bull !!

[SainterK]

The best one we have had in recent memory was Terry Daniher.

He did have Hamill, Gehrig & a fit Roo to work with though!

When Thomas moved him to backline coach for the next season the forward line went to shite.

Reckon Tudor was good also.

Tudor was coming off a low base with the previous being John Barker - he was as useful as tits on a bull !!

I guess Scott could ask the question, but I can't see him coming back after making the move to Sydney?

[SainterK]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/g ... 6086291492

I didn't realise, but I heard recently that Wayne mentored Hawkins one on one the latter part of 2011....is that true?

Still not worth the risk as a forward coach?

[shmic_s]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/g ... 6086291492

I didn't realise, but I heard recently that Wayne mentored Hawkins one on one the latter part of 2011....is that true?

Still not worth the risk as a forward coach?

Hawkins did improve towards the end of the year.
Maybe Wayne did alright?
He would be worth contacting in our search for assistants IMO.

[Dr Spaceman]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/g ... 6086291492

I didn't realise, but I heard recently that Wayne mentored Hawkins one on one the latter part of 2011....is that true?

Still not worth the risk as a forward coach?

Hawkins did improve towards the end of the year.
Maybe Wayne did alright?
He would be worth contacting in our search for assistants IMO.

In 2006 he was an assistant coach at Collingwood.

Could fit in well with the new bloke.

[Stillwaiting]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/g ... 6086291492

I didn't realise, but I heard recently that Wayne mentored Hawkins one on one the latter part of 2011....is that true?

Still not worth the risk as a forward coach?

Hawkins did improve towards the end of the year.
Maybe Wayne did alright?
He would be worth contacting in our search for assistants IMO.

In 2006 he was an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I think he would be a excellent foward coach but is he looking to be a full time roll?
I am a little concerned that we haven't got our coaching stafff sorted out yet

Could fit in well with the new bloke.

[SainterK]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/g ... 6086291492

I didn't realise, but I heard recently that Wayne mentored Hawkins one on one the latter part of 2011....is that true?

Still not worth the risk as a forward coach?

Hawkins did improve towards the end of the year.
Maybe Wayne did alright?
He would be worth contacting in our search for assistants IMO.

In 2006 he was an assistant coach at Collingwood.

I think he would be a excellent foward coach but is he looking to be a full time roll?
I am a little concerned that we haven't got our coaching stafff sorted out yet

Could fit in well with the new bloke.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-pre ... 6081102964

Interestingly the year he informally 'mentored' Nick and even chatted to Kosi was 2009

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/zxzaf ... 5772445266

[SteveStevens66]

Not much out there, dare I say Wayne Carey, who worked one on one with Roo in 2009 (from memory) and appeared to impact him at the time.

Or is it to much of a risk?

What risk? You think if Roo hangs out with Carey he'll being abusing his girlfriend?

Cousins was seen as a risk. What was he going to do? Turn other players into drug addicts?

What is the obsession with risk? It is all over the AFL and at a certain level it is crippling because it removes doing anything daring. And sport without daring isn't sport.

And please don't throw up Lovett. It went wrong but not because of football.

Anyway, getting Carey is a great suggestion. We should go for it.

[SainterK]

Not much out there, dare I say Wayne Carey, who worked one on one with Roo in 2009 (from memory) and appeared to impact him at the time.

Or is it to much of a risk?

What risk? You think if Roo hangs out with Carey he'll being abusing his girlfriend?

Cousins was seen as a risk. What was he going to do? Turn other players into drug addicts?

What is the obsession with risk? It is all over the AFL and at a certain level it is crippling because it removes doing anything daring. And sport without daring isn't sport.

And please don't throw up Lovett. It went wrong but not because of football.

Anyway, getting Carey is a great suggestion. We should go for it.

Just inviting healthy discussion, some may think he is one

I think a bit of swagger is what the forward line needs

[SteveStevens66]

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Just inviting healthy discussion, some may think he is one

I think a bit of swagger is what the forward line needs [/quote]

Totally agree with you SainterK.

[Royston]

Not sure how it would go with team harmony.

The King is now 'dating' a girl who is an ex of a current player.

While on field in 2011 he had a teriffic year, it is my understanding he is struggling a little with the breakup.

[defacto]

Not sure how it would go with team harmony.

The King is now 'dating' a girl who is an ex of a current player.

While on field in 2011 he had a teriffic year, it is my understanding he is struggling a little with the breakup.

backman, midfield, forward or ruck?

[plugger66]

Not sure how it would go with team harmony.

The King is now 'dating' a girl who is an ex of a current player.

While on field in 2011 he had a teriffic year, it is my understanding he is struggling a little with the breakup.

backman, midfield, forward or ruck?

It is Sam Fisher. It was in the paper.

[elizabethr]

See if Hamill wants the gig? At least the forward line would play with a bit of ticker !

Some people can't seem to let go of this dubiously talented old dinosaur.

[spert]

We need a full forward first.

[gurubob101]

Not much out there, dare I say Wayne Carey, who worked one on one with Roo in 2009 (from memory) and appeared to impact him at the time.

Or is it to much of a risk?

What risk? You think if Roo hangs out with Carey he'll being abusing his girlfriend?

Cousins was seen as a risk. What was he going to do? Turn other players into drug addicts?

What is the obsession with risk? It is all over the AFL and at a certain level it is crippling because it removes doing anything daring. And sport without daring isn't sport.

And please don't throw up Lovett. It went wrong but not because of football.

Anyway, getting Carey is a great suggestion. We should go for it.

I don't think Cousins did much for Richmond. Got them a bit of publicity maybe... a lot of it negative... but they haven't really advanced at all. And you can't just ignore the Lovett fiasco... it had a major impact on our club in terms of finance, morale and football department given that we blew a high draft pick on him and had a reduced playing list before the season started. Carey has a long history of poor treatment of women and doing the dirty on his team mates and honestly I don't think he'd bring enough improvement to the list to be worth the trouble.