.......and BTW... Robert Harvey has the right to do whatever the F##K he likes in relation to his football career......
...and whatever he does choose to do is fine with me(as if that matters
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After one year as a senior assistant elsewhere?plugger66 wrote:Of course he should have come back. He had 2 years somewhere else and there was a job vacant at our club. How long should you be away? What we shouldnt have done is appoint him interim coach. We didnt need one for a start so why do that and maybe get his hopes up. It was stupid IMO. By the way we may have interviewed 20 coaches for our vacancies. How would any of us know.SainterK wrote:True or otherwise.
He shouldn't of come back so soon.
Helped the club out of a pickle in 2011, as Ross couldn't get anyone into his box in the end.
(As I've said, except for 2 players, a mate, and a Port guy)
So he realised it through the selection process and not before it?GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Francis Leach on SEN said he had lunch with Harves today and that he was still undecided what to do. Said he hadn't cracked the sads, but had realised through the selection process that he really wanted to be a senior coach and it was a priority for him now.
no- the process confirmed in his mind that coaching is what he wants to do in some form.......Dr Spaceman wrote:So he realised it through the selection process and not before it?GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Francis Leach on SEN said he had lunch with Harves today and that he was still undecided what to do. Said he hadn't cracked the sads, but had realised through the selection process that he really wanted to be a senior coach and it was a priority for him now.
I know what you're saying bratty but I would think at this level you should be 100% committed to that career path before you throw your hat into the ring.saintbrat wrote:no- the process confirmed in his mind that coaching is what he wants to do in some form.......Dr Spaceman wrote:So he realised it through the selection process and not before it?GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Francis Leach on SEN said he had lunch with Harves today and that he was still undecided what to do. Said he hadn't cracked the sads, but had realised through the selection process that he really wanted to be a senior coach and it was a priority for him now.
Which is probably why he didn't get to the second round.Dr Spaceman wrote:I know what you're saying bratty but I would think at this level you should be 100% committed to that career path before you throw your hat into the ring.saintbrat wrote:no- the process confirmed in his mind that coaching is what he wants to do in some form.......Dr Spaceman wrote:So he realised it through the selection process and not before it? :shock:GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Francis Leach on SEN said he had lunch with Harves today and that he was still undecided what to do. Said he hadn't cracked the sads, but had realised through the selection process that he really wanted to be a senior coach and it was a priority for him now.
That comment suggests otherwise with Rob though it may simply be the way he puts things.
I think that's great. Terrific he has the drive and the ambition. Maybe he had previously thought he could add something in coaching by who he was and his personal playing experience. You clearly need more now, so he is seeking out more experience and more knowledge.GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Francis Leach on SEN said he had lunch with Harves today and that he was still undecided what to do. Said he hadn't cracked the sads, but had realised through the selection process that he really wanted to be a senior coach and it was a priority for him now.
Sentiment doesn't always work out in footy. I loved Harves as a player but I have to admit I was nervous at the thought of him as a senior coach at the saints. He played with some of the list he would be coaching, he had limited external and internal experience and he doesn't seem to be a natural communicator. He can't really coach by example. Good luck to him, if he lands at Collingwood he will get great access to the best of everything. When he is a master coach he can come back and take us to the promised land- after Scotty has his 6.Verdun66 wrote:I think that's great. Terrific he has the drive and the ambition. Maybe he had previously thought he could add something in coaching by who he was and his personal playing experience. You clearly need more now, so he is seeking out more experience and more knowledge.GeorgeYoung27 wrote:Francis Leach on SEN said he had lunch with Harves today and that he was still undecided what to do. Said he hadn't cracked the sads, but had realised through the selection process that he really wanted to be a senior coach and it was a priority for him now.
He didn't get it out of Ross Lyon, that's safe to say. I always wondered what RL was saying over his shoulder in the box when something went wrong. He had that whiney look on his face. Looked to me like he was blaming other people. Not a great environment to learn about coaching.
He was at Carlton 2 years in 2 different roles. What about other assistant coaches who come directly from playing. Even Nathan Buckley has only been assistant 2 or 3 years and he is the main coach now. 2 years is plenty of time to leave your club and then come back. Obviously you wouldnt want Max back to help next year.SainterK wrote:After one year as a senior assistant elsewhere?plugger66 wrote:Of course he should have come back. He had 2 years somewhere else and there was a job vacant at our club. How long should you be away? What we shouldnt have done is appoint him interim coach. We didnt need one for a start so why do that and maybe get his hopes up. It was stupid IMO. By the way we may have interviewed 20 coaches for our vacancies. How would any of us know.SainterK wrote:True or otherwise.
He shouldn't of come back so soon.
Helped the club out of a pickle in 2011, as Ross couldn't get anyone into his box in the end.
(As I've said, except for 2 players, a mate, and a Port guy)
We differ in opinions then in how long someone should be out there learning their craft.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/h ... z1bGIxZ6CuSaints chief executive Michael Nettlefold said last night that Harvey would depart with his and the club's blessing after unsuccessfully applying for the senior coaching role, which went to Scott Watters.
''We won't stand in his way,'' Nettlefold said.
''Obviously we would love him to stay at the club, but we understand that Rob is very keen to work towards becoming a senior coach and we support him in that.''
Well, if Harvs is yet to make up his mind (which I don't believe), looks like Netters has made it up for him.stkildathunda wrote:Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/h ... z1bGIxZ6CuSaints chief executive Michael Nettlefold said last night that Harvey would depart with his and the club's blessing after unsuccessfully applying for the senior coaching role, which went to Scott Watters.
''We won't stand in his way,'' Nettlefold said.
''Obviously we would love him to stay at the club, but we understand that Rob is very keen to work towards becoming a senior coach and we support him in that.''
Yup.plugger66 wrote:Of course he should have come back. He had 2 years somewhere else and there was a job vacant at our club. How long should you be away? What we shouldnt have done is appoint him interim coach. We didnt need one for a start so why do that and maybe get his hopes up. It was stupid IMO. By the way we may have interviewed 20 coaches for our vacancies. How would any of us know.SainterK wrote:True or otherwise.
He shouldn't of come back so soon.
Helped the club out of a pickle in 2011, as Ross couldn't get anyone into his box in the end.
(As I've said, except for 2 players, a mate, and a Port guy)
That article has been weasel worded by Caro. She has put words in Nettlefolds' mouth to the effect that Harvey has already decided to leave, but the rest of the article gives the lie.stkildathunda wrote:Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/h ... z1bGIxZ6CuSaints chief executive Michael Nettlefold said last night that Harvey would depart with his and the club's blessing after unsuccessfully applying for the senior coaching role, which went to Scott Watters.
''We won't stand in his way,'' Nettlefold said.
''Obviously we would love him to stay at the club, but we understand that Rob is very keen to work towards becoming a senior coach and we support him in that.''
Not sure if Nathan, or Vossy...even Hird can coach. Will they be any good?plugger66 wrote:He was at Carlton 2 years in 2 different roles. What about other assistant coaches who come directly from playing. Even Nathan Buckley has only been assistant 2 or 3 years and he is the main coach now. 2 years is plenty of time to leave your club and then come back. Obviously you wouldnt want Max back to help next year.SainterK wrote:After one year as a senior assistant elsewhere?plugger66 wrote:Of course he should have come back. He had 2 years somewhere else and there was a job vacant at our club. How long should you be away? What we shouldnt have done is appoint him interim coach. We didnt need one for a start so why do that and maybe get his hopes up. It was stupid IMO. By the way we may have interviewed 20 coaches for our vacancies. How would any of us know.SainterK wrote:True or otherwise.
He shouldn't of come back so soon.
Helped the club out of a pickle in 2011, as Ross couldn't get anyone into his box in the end.
(As I've said, except for 2 players, a mate, and a Port guy)
We differ in opinions then in how long someone should be out there learning their craft.
And I never said anything different. I was commenting on the fact that you said it was to early to come back after only 2 years being an assistant.SainterK wrote:Not sure if Nathan, or Vossy...even Hird can coach. Will they be any good?plugger66 wrote:He was at Carlton 2 years in 2 different roles. What about other assistant coaches who come directly from playing. Even Nathan Buckley has only been assistant 2 or 3 years and he is the main coach now. 2 years is plenty of time to leave your club and then come back. Obviously you wouldnt want Max back to help next year.SainterK wrote:After one year as a senior assistant elsewhere?plugger66 wrote:Of course he should have come back. He had 2 years somewhere else and there was a job vacant at our club. How long should you be away? What we shouldnt have done is appoint him interim coach. We didnt need one for a start so why do that and maybe get his hopes up. It was stupid IMO. By the way we may have interviewed 20 coaches for our vacancies. How would any of us know.SainterK wrote:True or otherwise.
He shouldn't of come back so soon.
Helped the club out of a pickle in 2011, as Ross couldn't get anyone into his box in the end.
(As I've said, except for 2 players, a mate, and a Port guy)
We differ in opinions then in how long someone should be out there learning their craft.
Dunno.
Most of the senior coaches appointed now have done a good apprenticeship, if he has aspirations to be a senior coach, he should continue his.