Scott Watters' record as WAFL coach

Sainternist · Mon 17 Oct 2011 8:54pm

Could someone please provide his win-loss record and years coached as Subiaco coach.

Also, was it two premierships he coached them to?

True Blue Sainter · Mon 17 Oct 2011 8:59pm

I know it was 3 GFs, 2 successive premierships at Subiaco, in 3 seasons. Perhaps, some of our cluey Western friends can inform us of more detailed info!

saintbrat · Post: # 1165525Post **saintbrat** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 9:00pm

it's somewhere on the last 6 pages...

saintbrat · Post: # 1165526Post **saintbrat** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 9:03pm

one of the posts
http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... ers+record

Played 109 AFL games, 46 with West Coast from 1989-1992; 37 with Sydney from 1993 to 1994; 26 with Freo from 1995 to 1996. He played in the losing GF of 1991, but did not play in the premiership team of 1992. Sydney finished last in both 1993 and 1994. Freo finished 13th in both 1995 and 1996.

Coaching career: Subiaco (WAFL) 2007-09 (two flags), Subiaco (U/19 WAFL) 2006, W.A. State 2008 -09, Collingwood assistant 2010 -2011.

He is now 42.

Sainternist · Mon 17 Oct 2011 9:07pm

Thanks, Bratty.

Even if he has only coach WAFL level, two premierships and 3 GF appearances in 4 seasons is nothing to be sneezed at there.

It's no wonder the Filth were eager to get him and hold onto him as an assistant.

saintbrat · Post: # 1165538Post **saintbrat** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 9:13pm

I liked what he had done during the years away from Football even more Sainternist post 1996
not sure if it was the SEN or the 927 interview where he mentioned it
http://www.sen.com.au/audioplayer/Audio ... tters/3280

http://www.radiosportnat.com.au/audiopl ... 813075.mp3

but ran two companies - one of which dealt in leadership training..

Sainternist · Mon 17 Oct 2011 9:22pm

Very interesting, Bratty. Very interesting.

St Chris · Post: # 1165608Post **St Chris** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 10:26pm

Scott Watters as coach at Subiaco:

2007 16 Wins 4 Losses - 2nd on H&A ladder - Premiership
2008 19 Wins 1 Loss - 1st on H&A ladder - Premiership (Only loss was by 1 point!!)
2009 13 Wins 7 Losses - 2nd on H&A ladder - Runner Up

Also interesting to note, the average points "FOR" while at Subi were 124, 130 and 104.

defacto · Post: # 1165636Post **defacto** » Mon 17 Oct 2011 10:45pm

St Chris wrote:Scott Watters as coach at Subiaco:

2007 16 Wins 4 Losses - 2nd on H&A ladder - Premiership
2008 19 Wins 1 Loss - 1st on H&A ladder - Premiership (Only loss was by 1 point!!)
2009 13 Wins 7 Losses - 2nd on H&A ladder - Runner Up

Also interesting to note, the average points "FOR" while at Subi were 124, 130 and 104.

other thing of note was in 2009 they were only beaten in the grand final by a south freo side full of ex afl and afl listed players.

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 18 Oct 2011 2:02am

To be fair though Scott inherited a bloody good side from Peter German in Subiaco .. Most of the building of that team was already done by the time Scotty got the job ... He will be a great coach for us but as they say any fool could have coached that subi side to the flag ...

True Blue Sainter · Tue 18 Oct 2011 2:06am

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:To be fair though Scott inherited a bloody good side from Peter German in Subiaco .. Most of the building of that team was already done by the time Scotty got the job ... He will be a great coach for us but as they say any fool could have coached that subi side to the flag ...

I heard much the same.

Still, to win back-to-back flags is not an easy task, no matter how good the side is that you inherit.

SainterK · Post: # 1165765Post **SainterK** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 8:28am

So your saying, he's timing has been traditionally good?

Suits me if he's seen something at St Kilda that he can time well.

bigcarl · Post: # 1165767Post **bigcarl** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 8:39am

St Chris wrote:Also interesting to note, the average points "FOR" while at Subi were 124, 130 and 104.

good

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:46am

True Blue Sainter wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:To be fair though Scott inherited a bloody good side from Peter German in Subiaco .. Most of the building of that team was already done by the time Scotty got the job ... He will be a great coach for us but as they say any fool could have coached that subi side to the flag ...
I heard much the same.

Still, to win back-to-back flags is not an easy task, no matter how good the side is that you inherit.

He was still a damn good coach and all his players will credit their massive run in 2008 to the changes he made .. But he didn't build the team as such .. He is a smart bloke though I used to like listening to his comments on Perth radio ...

Legendary · Post: # 1165814Post **Legendary** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:56am

It can be just as difficult to manage a successful team as it can to develop youth ... when developing youth and building a side, you are given a fair bit of time and latitude ... when taking over a successful group, there are high expectations and big ego's to manage ... Watters clearly did that very well

shmic_s · Post: # 1165856Post **shmic_s** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 10:34am

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
True Blue Sainter wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:To be fair though Scott inherited a bloody good side from Peter German in Subiaco .. Most of the building of that team was already done by the time Scotty got the job ... He will be a great coach for us but as they say any fool could have coached that subi side to the flag ...
I heard much the same.

Still, to win back-to-back flags is not an easy task, no matter how good the side is that you inherit.
He was still a damn good coach and all his players will credit their massive run in 2008 to the changes he made .. But he didn't build the team as such .. He is a smart bloke though I used to like listening to his comments on Perth radio ...

Lucky we have Pelchan on board to help build the side.

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 18 Oct 2011 2:04pm

shmic_s wrote:
Lucky we have Pelchan on board to help build the side.

I'm not saying he can't build a list just that he hasn't yet ... First and formost Scotty is a great leader so I'm sure he can build a strong list

saintbrat · Post: # 1166017Post **saintbrat** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 3:17pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
shmic_s wrote:
Lucky we have Pelchan on board to help build the side.
I'm not saying he can't build a list just that he hasn't yet ... First and formost Scotty is a great leader so I'm sure he can build a strong list

Trav - you wouldn't hapen to know what the other business he ran was- in the years between 96 and 2006- one he said was Leadership development company...

defacto · Post: # 1166021Post **defacto** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 3:42pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:To be fair though Scott inherited a bloody good side from Peter German in Subiaco .. Most of the building of that team was already done by the time Scotty got the job ... He will be a great coach for us but as they say any fool could have coached that subi side to the flag ...

thats not exactly true.

sure german built a great side that failed in 2003 only to rebuild it, bring in youth and succeed in 2004 and again in 2006. but watters did exceptionally well to keep the momentum going to make 3 successive grand finals. his work with the younger players coming through was exceptional. his management of the older players was even better!!!

german still had an off year in 2005. one could say german saw the lack of professionalism and fitness in the wafl and exploited it.

Kilda · Post: # 1166026Post **Kilda** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 3:49pm

To back up what some have said earlier in this post, there have been some comments allegedly made by former Subiaco players who claim that compared to Scott Watters that Peter German was by far the better coach.

As always, time will tell whether the club has made the right choice...

st_Trav_ofWA · Tue 18 Oct 2011 5:11pm

saintbrat wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
shmic_s wrote:
Lucky we have Pelchan on board to help build the side.
I'm not saying he can't build a list just that he hasn't yet ... First and formost Scotty is a great leader so I'm sure he can build a strong list
Trav - you wouldn't hapen to know what the other business he ran was- in the years between 96 and 2006- one he said was Leadership development company...

Don't quote me on it but I think he may have been doing corporate team building with Ken judge .. I'm 90% sure Scotty was at a Corp team building day I went to where Judge and Jeans gave motivational speach ... I was distracted by Yabby so I didn't pay much attention to Scotty

saintbrat · Post: # 1166346Post **saintbrat** » Tue 18 Oct 2011 9:10pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
shmic_s wrote:
Lucky we have Pelchan on board to help build the side.
I'm not saying he can't build a list just that he hasn't yet ... First and formost Scotty is a great leader so I'm sure he can build a strong list
Trav - you wouldn't hapen to know what the other business he ran was- in the years between 96 and 2006- one he said was Leadership development company...
Don't quote me on it but I think he may have been doing corporate team building with Ken judge .. I'm 90% sure Scotty was at a Corp team building day I went to where Judge and Jeans gave motivational speach ... I was distracted by Yabby so I didn't pay much attention to Scotty

so that would be the Leadership company _ I wonder what the other one was