Salary cap questions, and new coach

spert · Post: # 1158904Post **spert** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:01am

If the club is under salary cap pressure, and needs to retain its better players, could it mean that we won't be paying mega-bucks to the new coach? It may well be that the new coach is one of the lower profile asistants who can't really demand a big salary package. Of all the canditates, Watters seems to have the biggest reputation and accolades, so you would think, would want the biggest salary of the assistants in line for a senior role...the plot thickens.

saintly · Post: # 1158906Post **saintly** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:04am

spert wrote:If the club is under salary cap pressure, and needs to retain its better players, could it mean that we won't be paying mega-bucks to the new coach? It may well be that the new coach is one of the lower profile asistants who can't really demand a big salary package. Of all the canditates, Watters seems to have the biggest reputation and accolades, so you would think, would want the biggest salary of the assistants in line for a senior role...the plot thickens.

salary cap has got nothing to do with paying a coach , assistant coaches
etc

salary cap only has to do with the players.

Animal Enclosure · Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:05am

The salary cap doesn't apply to coaching staff so there is nothing to stop St Kilda paying Watters, Hinkley, etc $1million a season.

Whether there is enough $$$ in the entire club budget is a different issue though.

Pelchen was on Trade Week Radio this morning confirming that the cap is tight... he also said that no big names will be traded but there were no guarantees (which I read as if we get a fantastic offer that relieves the salary cap issue & delivers us early picks then we'll look at it).

spert · Post: # 1158909Post **spert** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:08am

I was thinking more of the overall club budget. I presume the club pays the players and the coach from the same bucket of money.

Rosco · Post: # 1158913Post **Rosco** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:11am

spert wrote:I was thinking more of the overall club budget. I presume the club pays the players and the coach from the same bucket of money.

Yeah, but the apparent issue relates to the cap being tight, haven't heard anything about the overall bucket of cash being light

Animal Enclosure · Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:13am

spert wrote:I was thinking more of the overall club budget. I presume the club pays the players and the coach from the same bucket of money.

The reported issues are with the cap though.

A lot of people reading too much into the significant loss due to the stadium deal. With the new AFL distribution money the club should be flush with cash!

spert · Post: # 1158915Post **spert** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:13am

Rosco wrote:
spert wrote:I was thinking more of the overall club budget. I presume the club pays the players and the coach from the same bucket of money.
Yeah, but the apparent issue relates to the cap being tight, haven't heard anything about the overall bucket of cash being light

True, though with the club being in debt for various reasons, I think the money is a bit scarce.

mcadam05 · Post: # 1158916Post **mcadam05** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:15am

What I don't get is how can the Cap be tight if the cap for next year and beyond hasn't even been set yet by the AFL

Rosco · Post: # 1158918Post **Rosco** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:24am

Maybe the players have their wages adjusted proportionally to any increase in the cap amount, e.g. if cap goes up 5 per cent so does each players wage. Otherwise long term contracts would be risky for players (and clubs if the cap ever went down)

InkerSaint · Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:26am

spert wrote:True, though with the club being in debt for various reasons, I think the money is a bit scarce.

Posting a loss and being in debt are two different things...

Rosco · Post: # 1158921Post **Rosco** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:28am

mcadam05 wrote:What I don't get is how can the Cap be tight if the cap for next year and beyond hasn't even been set yet by the AFL

SEN (Patrick Smith?) just said we've got some bonuses to pay, back dated from 2010

mcadam05 · Post: # 1158927Post **mcadam05** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:47am

Rosco wrote:
mcadam05 wrote:What I don't get is how can the Cap be tight if the cap for next year and beyond hasn't even been set yet by the AFL
SEN (Patrick Smith?) just said we've got some bonuses to pay, back dated from 2010

if that's the case how would trading a "Big Name" help that, sadly again the media hacks seem too get the truth on one thing and just pile on so much rumour and crap on top you end up not knowing what's true or not , More then likely we are pretty tight for this year but trading away players only effects next year and beyond.

bobmurray · Post: # 1158928Post **bobmurray** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:47am

Pelchen says the cap is tight and that we will be active in trade week...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

mcadam05 · Post: # 1158931Post **mcadam05** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 9:55am

bobmurray wrote:Pelchen says the cap is tight and that we will be active in trade week...

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

- "I wouldn't say that we're over the cap - that would be wrong. Basically our cap is in a strained position, that's a fair assumption to make, but at the same time, we're not over the cap. We'll be under the cap in 2012. All we're trying to do is manage it in a professional manner."

and that puts a fullstop too the wholething! Can we all just move on now

markinUSA · Mon 10 Oct 2011 12:17pm

Thanks for explaining the issue regarding bonuses from 2010... I wasn't able to work out how we would be so close when we didn't go far into the finals this year. I had no idea that things could be backdated like that! Wow. You learn something every day.

tweedaletomanning · Mon 10 Oct 2011 1:59pm

We have until the 31st of October to get our S**t together re the SC, according to Ken Wood.

lefty · Post: # 1159221Post **lefty** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 4:57pm

TBH, if the PLAYERS want to stay at the club, they should stick by each other, take 5% off their pay each, from the first to the last player. Would show good leadership and core, along with loyalty to shove in Ross Lyon's face, along with telling their supporters/world they're the real deal.

Should free up enough cash. Then win the grand final next year, and write their own history...

Lets face it, afl players earn more than enough to be comfortable as it is compared to the average joe blow.

gringo · Post: # 1159224Post **gringo** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 5:02pm

lefty wrote:TBH, if the PLAYERS want to stay at the club, they should stick by each other, take 5% off their pay each, from the first to the last player. Would show good leadership and core, along with loyalty to shove in Ross Lyon's face, along with telling their supporters/world they're the real deal.

Should free up enough cash. Then win the grand final next year, and write their own history...

Lets face it, afl players earn more than enough to be comfortable as it is compared to the average joe blow.

I thought the same thing if I was a bunch of cocks that showed my c**k or a juiced up pill popper why not show some good will to the fans that they continually drag through the nettles with them in every off season. Forgo the back, crack and sack and spray tans for a year and give something back.

bobmurray · Post: # 1159225Post **bobmurray** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 5:03pm

Pelchen has also stated....

"Yes there will be a number of changes to our list over the course of this week, but having said that Iâ€™m not sure theyâ€™ll be the players that have been mentioned."

Saints94 · Post: # 1159230Post **Saints94** » Mon 10 Oct 2011 5:03pm

bobmurray wrote:Pelchen has also stated....

"Yes there will be a number of changes to our list over the course of this week, but having said that Iâ€™m not sure theyâ€™ll be the players that have been mentioned."

Sounds like we will be busy than usual.....

Salary cap questions, and new coach

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