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What will his role be in 2012? I barely know what his role was this year when he got a game. Run-with small defender in the mould of Baker?
He's played 50 odd games now yet I think he is still some way behind McEvoy or Steven who have played a similar amount or less.
Right now I'd say he is around position 21-24 on the list. My concern is that he doesn't have what it takes to become a mid-tier player (say 10-15) - and if he doesn't, then is his spot better occupied by someone else, like a new draftee?
He's played 50 odd games now yet I think he is still some way behind McEvoy or Steven who have played a similar amount or less.
Right now I'd say he is around position 21-24 on the list. My concern is that he doesn't have what it takes to become a mid-tier player (say 10-15) - and if he doesn't, then is his spot better occupied by someone else, like a new draftee?
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Re: Geary
Will be interesting to see how he and a lot of other players respond to the new guy, whoever he will be.
All bets are off.
Some will thrive under the new regime, others will go backwards.
We'll see. Exciting times.
All bets are off.
Some will thrive under the new regime, others will go backwards.
We'll see. Exciting times.
A few of these fringe players may get another year because this draft is considered pretty thin. Next years draft is meant to be great and has no GCS or GWS extra picks so I would do a big cull next year on fringe players and load up on kids then.
Love his attack on the footy but his disposal is terrible. He isn't that quick either.
Love his attack on the footy but his disposal is terrible. He isn't that quick either.
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Early on he showed great tenacity and creativity as a wing/HF, though that was stamped out of him by the old regime which turned him into a strong-bodied plodding tagger. It's definitely worth hanging onto him to see if he can fulfill his early promise (is very handy around goals when given the chance), but if used as a negator I don't think he has any significant future.
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I'll lay my cards out early and say that I am a Geary fan,
However even with this aside, I think we'd be mad to de-list our 21-24 best player, I mean there are always injuries and suspensions, maybe he is only a depth player, but you do need them too.
I'd certainly get rid of a few others before him and we've already freed up 5 spots?
However even with this aside, I think we'd be mad to de-list our 21-24 best player, I mean there are always injuries and suspensions, maybe he is only a depth player, but you do need them too.
I'd certainly get rid of a few others before him and we've already freed up 5 spots?
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I'm sorry to say, I think if Geary is getting a game each week next year we will be struggling. For all his courage and attack on the ball, his kicking is just not up to it, and never will be. He is too old now to go from a terrible field kick to a good one. Hope I'm wrong but don't think I am.
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Geary did a great job coming back after a broken leg, making the seniors and holding his place.....but his output was not great..
Has outstanding endurance...top 2 at stk
Very courageous....and quite hard at it.
Good overhead for his size....
Kicking is pretty poor, which is weird because when he first arrived in 2007 his kicking was very good, he played small fwd and midfield at Casey and occasionally down back and kicked it well...he often kicked out.....and threaded some nice goals..
Infact early doors he looked like a real find, was the pick of the youngsters....in 2009 he held his spot at 20yo in a super side in great form, and made excellent contributions....his Rising Star nomination was well justified and overdue..
One thing he can do is find the ball.....at vfl level he regularly gets over 30...in the afl he finds it easily and when he came on as a sub in a game this year he got a dozen in a quarter....
Like most of our kids....he need a shot of confidence only created by opportunity..
I would not write him off...
Has outstanding endurance...top 2 at stk
Very courageous....and quite hard at it.
Good overhead for his size....
Kicking is pretty poor, which is weird because when he first arrived in 2007 his kicking was very good, he played small fwd and midfield at Casey and occasionally down back and kicked it well...he often kicked out.....and threaded some nice goals..
Infact early doors he looked like a real find, was the pick of the youngsters....in 2009 he held his spot at 20yo in a super side in great form, and made excellent contributions....his Rising Star nomination was well justified and overdue..
One thing he can do is find the ball.....at vfl level he regularly gets over 30...in the afl he finds it easily and when he came on as a sub in a game this year he got a dozen in a quarter....
Like most of our kids....he need a shot of confidence only created by opportunity..
I would not write him off...
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Re: Geary
I disagree, i think he is the type given time on the ground could become our 10th to 16 th best on the list. Heaps of up side, if Farren or Peake go there should be some opportunities for guys like Geary to get a starting spot. He is rare at the Saints in that he is in that middle tier in games and age. Geelong had a couple of guys in that category win a premiership.battye wrote:What will his role be in 2012? I barely know what his role was this year when he got a game. Run-with small defender in the mould of Baker?
He's played 50 odd games now yet I think he is still some way behind McEvoy or Steven who have played a similar amount or less.
Right now I'd say he is around position 21-24 on the list. My concern is that he doesn't have what it takes to become a mid-tier player (say 10-15) - and if he doesn't, then is his spot better occupied by someone else, like a new draftee?
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Never been a great fan of Geary however he is still relatively young and needs time to improve.
Jimmy Gwilt took time and was sorely missed after his knee injury.
Deserves time to develop.
Jimmy Gwilt took time and was sorely missed after his knee injury.
Deserves time to develop.
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Compo picks are at the end of round 1 regardless of where a team finishes on the ladderOld Mate wrote:a lot if depth and compo system wont work in favour of clubs like cats (for ablett) coz they finished high up.borderbarry wrote:Hate to tell you this but next years draft is badly compromised too, as all the compensation type picks for players stolen by GWS and GCS will be taken.
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ey? doesn't band 1 mean the club get a pick after their first pick then another at the end of round 1?FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Compo picks are at the end of round 1 regardless of where a team finishes on the ladderOld Mate wrote:a lot if depth and compo system wont work in favour of clubs like cats (for ablett) coz they finished high up.borderbarry wrote:Hate to tell you this but next years draft is badly compromised too, as all the compensation type picks for players stolen by GWS and GCS will be taken.
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Geary is like a number of Saints in the 22...have many good qualities but are poor kicks.
Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.
Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.
But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.
Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.
Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.
While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.
Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.
Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.
But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.
Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.
Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.
While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.
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I like your post, man. On the money in terms of getting ball skill into the team, replacing lack of ball skill - force the averages up. I liked that idea of Siposs on HB, for his use. And it puts it that the kid basically needs to play coz he can use the ball... wherever he ends up on the ground, ya need to play him in place of the butcherers.saintsRrising wrote:Geary is like a number of Saints in the 22...have many good qualities but are poor kicks.
Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.
Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.
But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.
Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.
Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.
While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.
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He ain't Robinson Crusoe, Bernard. Perhaps you could get a full-time position down at Seaford.Bernard Shakey wrote:His disposal is shocking, turns it over like flipping pancakes. If he's to stay he needs to PM me and I'll teach him to kick.
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saintsRrising wrote:Geary is like a number of Saints in the 22...have many good qualities but are poor kicks.
Come 2012 for the Saints to prosper we have to get some better kicks into the team.
Now I doubt all will go...as again their are lots of good qualities.
But it is hard to imagine that all of Jones, Geary, Gilbert, Gram, Blake etc will be in the 22.
Gwilt is a good kick...so will come back.
Lenny will be back...so tat will force out two.
While Siposs has been thought of us a forward.....just imagine him off HB setting up play like Goddard does with his accurate kicking.
as someone said he was a good kick so I imagine he has to practice his composure under pressure rather than the action. We looked worse this season when we played on quickly and the intent didn't seem to spot up a team mate more just to pump it forward. That's why it seemed the backline players that were particularly bad.