Best St Kilda Team in the time I've been watching.
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Best St Kilda Team in the time I've been watching.
I've been watching the Saints since 1975, my first game being a Round 3 (1975) victory over South Melbourne at Moorabbin which was Brian Mynott's last game. Unfortunately, I didn't see Baldock, Stewart etc. So I thought I'd have a crack at selecting the best 22 I've seen since 1975. Please join in and post yours, indicate what year you started watching the Saints, maybe talk about your first game, and select yours from that time. Should hopefully create some interesting discussion.
Here's my best Saints 22 since 1975:
B: Max Hudghston Danny Frawley Justin Peckett
HB: Brendon Goddard Sam Fisher Trevor Barker
C: Austinn Jones Lenny Hayes (Capt) Gilbert McAdam
HF: Nicky Winmar Nick Riewoldt Nick Dal Santo
F: Stephen Milne Tony Lockett George Young
Rucks: Peter Everitt & Robert Harvey
Rover: Graham Gellie
Inter: Carl Ditterich, Nathan Burke, Fraser Gehrig, Glen Elliott
Emerg: Geoff Cunningham, Robert Elphinstone, Stewart Loewe
Coach: Ross Lyon
Here's my best Saints 22 since 1975:
B: Max Hudghston Danny Frawley Justin Peckett
HB: Brendon Goddard Sam Fisher Trevor Barker
C: Austinn Jones Lenny Hayes (Capt) Gilbert McAdam
HF: Nicky Winmar Nick Riewoldt Nick Dal Santo
F: Stephen Milne Tony Lockett George Young
Rucks: Peter Everitt & Robert Harvey
Rover: Graham Gellie
Inter: Carl Ditterich, Nathan Burke, Fraser Gehrig, Glen Elliott
Emerg: Geoff Cunningham, Robert Elphinstone, Stewart Loewe
Coach: Ross Lyon
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These types of scenarios are almost impossible to compare, as the level of skill goes up enormously as the years go by.
Saw many games at the Junction Oval, including a C. Ditterich first game against Melbourne, who were rarely beaten. Saints won that day, which brought the house down. Sat behind and in awe of the legend calling the game on the radio - Jack Dyer.
Here's a couple of older "good ordinary players" - Verdun Howell (FB), Jimmy Guyatt (HB), Alan Morrow (ruck), Ian Stewart (centre), Neil Roberts (CHB), Eric Guy (HB) and ........ a D. Baldock ! To name a few.
Saw many games at the Junction Oval, including a C. Ditterich first game against Melbourne, who were rarely beaten. Saints won that day, which brought the house down. Sat behind and in awe of the legend calling the game on the radio - Jack Dyer.
Here's a couple of older "good ordinary players" - Verdun Howell (FB), Jimmy Guyatt (HB), Alan Morrow (ruck), Ian Stewart (centre), Neil Roberts (CHB), Eric Guy (HB) and ........ a D. Baldock ! To name a few.
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Re: Best St Kilda Team in the time I've been watching.
Moorabbin Man wrote:I've been watching the Saints since 1975, my first game being a Round 3 (1975) victory over South Melbourne at Moorabbin which was Brian Mynott's last game. Unfortunately, I didn't see Baldock, Stewart etc. So I thought I'd have a crack at selecting the best 22 I've seen since 1975. Please join in and post yours, indicate what year you started watching the Saints, maybe talk about your first game, and select yours from that time. Should hopefully create some interesting discussion.
Here's my best Saints 22 since 1975:
B: Max Hudghston Danny Frawley Justin Peckett
HB: Brendon Goddard Sam Fisher Trevor Barker
C: Austinn Jones Lenny Hayes (Capt) Gilbert McAdam
HF: Nicky Winmar Nick Riewoldt Nick Dal Santo
F: Stephen Milne Tony Lockett George Young
Rucks: Peter Everitt & Robert Harvey
Rover: Graham Gellie
Inter: Carl Ditterich, Nathan Burke, Fraser Gehrig, Glen Elliott
Emerg: Geoff Cunningham, Robert Elphinstone, Stewart Loewe
Coach: Ross Lyon
B: Hudgton, Frawley, Jones
HB:Barker, Elphinstone, Fisher
C: Winmar, Hayes, Dal Santo
HF: Goddard, Loewe, Riewoldt
F: Milne, Lockett, Gehrig
Foll: Dietreitch , Harvey, Burke,
Int: Young, Everitt, Mc Adam, Baker
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You'd be quite happy with any of Young, Lockett or Heatley taking a shot after the siren to win a flaghowlinwolf wrote:Someone that springs to mind considering our recent kicking woes is
Jason Heatley.
I was always confident when he was kicking at goal.
He probably doesn't fit into your side though.
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Frawley, S.Fisher....key defenders...both won best and fairests....hudghton 3rd tall having played 200+ games
Dunne would be a small defender after winning two nest and fairests there....Jones was an all australian HB
Barker would be an obvious at HB
Mids
Harvey, Burke, Hayes, Winmar, Dal Santo.....starting mids....12 best and fairest awards there...
Ruck.....everit...best and fairest, dual all australian
Tall fwds
CHF to the ,an who has taken the most marks in the game....best and fairest and twice leading goalkicker
Lockett a lock....dual b&f....10 times leading goalkicker, brownlow
Riewoldt the third 5 best and fairests...2 leading Goalkicker
Small/Medium fwds/resting mids
S.Milne....first small fwd picked....twice leading goalkicker
George Young......mid size.....4 times leading goalkicker
Montagna.....dual all australian, twice runner up b&f in grand final seasons
Interchange
Sarau.....resting Ruck/kpp.....dual b&f
G.Burns......resting Mid....dual B&F
B.Duperouzel.......captain, best and fairest, all australian
B.Goddard......utility/ruck rover
In Summary
Dunne would be a small defender after winning two nest and fairests there....Jones was an all australian HB
Barker would be an obvious at HB
Mids
Harvey, Burke, Hayes, Winmar, Dal Santo.....starting mids....12 best and fairest awards there...
Ruck.....everit...best and fairest, dual all australian
Tall fwds
CHF to the ,an who has taken the most marks in the game....best and fairest and twice leading goalkicker
Lockett a lock....dual b&f....10 times leading goalkicker, brownlow
Riewoldt the third 5 best and fairests...2 leading Goalkicker
Small/Medium fwds/resting mids
S.Milne....first small fwd picked....twice leading goalkicker
George Young......mid size.....4 times leading goalkicker
Montagna.....dual all australian, twice runner up b&f in grand final seasons
Interchange
Sarau.....resting Ruck/kpp.....dual b&f
G.Burns......resting Mid....dual B&F
B.Duperouzel.......captain, best and fairest, all australian
B.Goddard......utility/ruck rover
In Summary
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B: Hudghton.......Frawley......Dunne
HB: Barker.........S.Fisher.......Jones
C: Winmar.........Hayes..........Dal Santo
HF: Riewoldt.......Loewe........Montagna
F: Young..........Lockett.........Milne
Foll: Everitt........Harvey........Burke
Int: Sarau.......G.Burns........B.Duperouzel.......B.Goddard
Emerg: A.Thompson......F.Gehrig......Peckett
Line that side up (Post Allen Jeans)
Against this group (Post War)
B: K.Drinan...........B.Murray.........W.Judson
HB: D.Griffiths........N.Roberts.......V.Howell
C: S.Trott.............I.Stewart..........I.Synman
HF: D.Baldock.......B.Breen.......B.Lawrence
F: A.Davis............K.Neale........B.Young
Foll: C.Ditterich........H.Bray........R.Smith
Int: j.Mcintosh.......L.Oswald.......J.Ross......A.Morrow
Emerg: B.Mynott......G.Elliott
B: Hudghton.......Frawley......Dunne
HB: Barker.........S.Fisher.......Jones
C: Winmar.........Hayes..........Dal Santo
HF: Riewoldt.......Loewe........Montagna
F: Young..........Lockett.........Milne
Foll: Everitt........Harvey........Burke
Int: Sarau.......G.Burns........B.Duperouzel.......B.Goddard
Emerg: A.Thompson......F.Gehrig......Peckett
Line that side up (Post Allen Jeans)
Against this group (Post War)
B: K.Drinan...........B.Murray.........W.Judson
HB: D.Griffiths........N.Roberts.......V.Howell
C: S.Trott.............I.Stewart..........I.Synman
HF: D.Baldock.......B.Breen.......B.Lawrence
F: A.Davis............K.Neale........B.Young
Foll: C.Ditterich........H.Bray........R.Smith
Int: j.Mcintosh.......L.Oswald.......J.Ross......A.Morrow
Emerg: B.Mynott......G.Elliott
Not sure he played as tall as plugger???
Back in those days....yes only 30 odd years ago 6'1" was a pretty big man.....thats the same size as lenny and dal......
I always loved the dual FF model.......one slightly shorter who played tall....and one huge bloke...
Its why i believe gehrig, hamill, riewoldt is our best fwd line....a good third tall
My dream Fwd line
Carey, ablett, lockett in 1993
Back on George
Nice to have him as a third target......
Back in those days....yes only 30 odd years ago 6'1" was a pretty big man.....thats the same size as lenny and dal......
I always loved the dual FF model.......one slightly shorter who played tall....and one huge bloke...
Its why i believe gehrig, hamill, riewoldt is our best fwd line....a good third tall
My dream Fwd line
Carey, ablett, lockett in 1993
Back on George
Nice to have him as a third target......
was just stumbling around on AFL Tables looking at some of the names above and then the 1966 season. it was pretty interesting, yes for us but also how richmond managed to finish 5th (the 9th of a top 4 system
).
in the 18 round season, richmond was on top of the ladder after round 14. they then lost their next 2 (to coll & geel) to slip to 5th, but won their last 2. but all four teams above them also won their last 2 so richmond ended up missing the finals. how cruel.
coll 15-3 (60 pts) 157%
stk 14-4 (56 pts) 143%
geel 14-4 (56 pts) 138%
ess 14-4 (56 pts) 121%
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rich 13-4-1 (54 pts) 123%
(sorry, off-topic but not worth it's own thread)
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in the 18 round season, richmond was on top of the ladder after round 14. they then lost their next 2 (to coll & geel) to slip to 5th, but won their last 2. but all four teams above them also won their last 2 so richmond ended up missing the finals. how cruel.
coll 15-3 (60 pts) 157%
stk 14-4 (56 pts) 143%
geel 14-4 (56 pts) 138%
ess 14-4 (56 pts) 121%
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rich 13-4-1 (54 pts) 123%
(sorry, off-topic but not worth it's own thread)
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Re: Best St Kilda Team in the time I've been watching.
Graham Gellie- was one of the best midfielder rovers I had seen until injury cut him down- could have been one of the game's greats.Moorabbin Man wrote:I've been watching the Saints since 1975, my first game being a Round 3 (1975) victory over South Melbourne at Moorabbin which was Brian Mynott's last game. Unfortunately, I didn't see Baldock, Stewart etc. So I thought I'd have a crack at selecting the best 22 I've seen since 1975. Please join in and post yours, indicate what year you started watching the Saints, maybe talk about your first game, and select yours from that time. Should hopefully create some interesting discussion.
Here's my best Saints 22 since 1975:
B: Max Hudghston Danny Frawley Justin Peckett
HB: Brendon Goddard Sam Fisher Trevor Barker
C: Austinn Jones Lenny Hayes (Capt) Gilbert McAdam
HF: Nicky Winmar Nick Riewoldt Nick Dal Santo
F: Stephen Milne Tony Lockett George Young
Rucks: Peter Everitt & Robert Harvey
Rover: Graham Gellie
Inter: Carl Ditterich, Nathan Burke, Fraser Gehrig, Glen Elliott
Emerg: Geoff Cunningham, Robert Elphinstone, Stewart Loewe
Coach: Ross Lyon
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My earliest,fondest moments of the Saints were George Young.Superboot wrote:Exactly how many of us think of him.spert wrote: the great George Young
Not many players have this accolade attached.
At the time it seemed he could do anything up forward.
Kicked some nice bags for us.
Robert Harvey's last home game. 24 Aug 2008
StKilda 13.17 def Adelaide 6.11
StKilda 13.17 def Adelaide 6.11
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Very fond memories indeed howlinwolf, especially for me wrapped up in thishowlinwolf wrote:My earliest,fondest moments of the Saints were George Young.Superboot wrote:Exactly how many of us think of him.spert wrote: the great George Young
Not many players have this accolade attached.
At the time it seemed he could do anything up forward.
Kicked some nice bags for us.
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