Goddard trade talk

[FortiusQuoFidelius]

Make him Skipper

Please.... NO!!! Lenny should be skipper.

[BigMart]

Or even our current skipper

Who has led us to two grand finals, has been all australian captain, won 5 best and fairests, has been a top 5 player in the afl for nearly a decade????

Is clearly our best player..

Perhaps he will do...

Thats right, he had a down year....and our memories are only capable of 12 months

[End Of An Era]

Would Pelchen look at trading Goddard and Dal in order to rebuild the list. Imagine if we got 2 top 10 picks for both.

Discuss...

[IluvHarvey]

Discuss...

No thanks it's been done to death!

[Dr Spaceman]

Would Pelchen look at trading Goddard and Dal in order to rebuild the list. Imagine if we got 2 top 10 picks for both.

Discuss...

Okay then.

We should trade Heyne & Eddy to the Bummers for Hurley & Heppell.

Discuss..............

[noob]

You can't get two top 10 picks for both? Only GWS can do that.. I don't think they are prepared to give up 4 of their 5 top 10 picks for goddard and dal santo... even getting two picks for one of them is highly unlikely. Its never going to happen.

[End Of An Era]

You can't get two top 10 picks for both? Only GWS can do that.. I don't think they are prepared to give up 4 of their 5 top 10 picks for goddard and dal santo... even getting two picks for one of them is highly unlikely. Its never going to happen.

But if Goddard and Dal went to GWS we would get compensation picks that we could use whenever we wanted to. The picks don't come from GWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rosco]

you only get compensation picks if GWS signs them as uncontracted players - and they can only sign 1 per club as far as i know (i think there was something about them signing additional players if the player and club both agree to it, but why on earth would they?). and then you are at the mercy of the AFL to decide on the compensation. you'd be better off trading (IF YOU WERE MAD ENOUGH TO WANT TO TRADE EITHER OF THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE).

[End Of An Era]

I think the question we all need to ask is will Dal and Goddard still be around to play in St Kilda's next premiership? If the answer is yes, then they should not be traded. If the answer is no, then trading them should be at least looked at.

I believe that if we could get 2 top 10 draft picks for Dal and the same for Goddard, we should take it. Dal will be 28 years old when next season starts. Goddard will be 27 just after next season starts.

By the time St Kilda rebuilds and is ready to challenge again, these 2 players (champions) may have already retired.

[noob]

But it will never happen..

[End Of An Era]

But it will never happen..

You never know. Pelchen was brought in for a reason. If it meant that we had a better chance of winning the premiership down the track then why wouldn't we at least look at it?

[saintbrat]

I think the question we all need to ask is will Dal and Goddard still be around to play in St Kilda's next premiership? If the answer is yes, then they should not be traded. If the answer is no, then trading them should be at least looked at.

and if the answer is yes then the debate stops now- and given all indications coming from those players and other club leaders then their belief is that the era is not at an end

has anyone pointed out yet that Top draft picks next year are still likely to be around pick 15 and the depth not that deep- not everyone can get that covetec Pick 4 that people are after
why should we not use their services for atleast another year - or two or three

many object to the ' bad culture' notion being thrown about around the name St Kilda- doubting our players and to me this comes across as that ; but surely sticking by OUR champions should be one step in showing that it is not a 'get out at all cost place".
they want to be there and I for one want them to stay .......Build around them not to spite them.

[Stillwaiting]

Would Pelchen look at trading Goddard and Dal in order to rebuild the list. Imagine if we got 2 top 10 picks for both.

Discuss...

piss of pathetic troll

[MCG-Unit]

Would Pelchen look at trading Goddard and Dal in order to rebuild the list. Imagine if we got 2 top 10 picks for both.

Wish they would trade you - banned from BF again ?

[stinger]

Would Pelchen look at trading Goddard and Dal in order to rebuild the list. Imagine if we got 2 top 10 picks for both.

Wish they would trade you - banned from BF again ?

be worth at least two slightly used frangas...imhfo...

[Sainternist]

No doubt, Hutchy would be flogging his log over this thread

[To the top]

Why the hell do some want to trade our best footballers, still with years on their side for unproven 18 year olds from an under age competition?

We need our best footballers at St Kilda so we can build a team around them - and, as the voting last night evidenced, we want our best footballers in good physical shape and in good form because they were not in 2011.

Others mentioned for trade, such as Gilbert, should also be retained as the building blocks for the progression of the 19/21 year olds on our list who have had little exposure to date - and where we have to find out if they have the ability to progress as a matter of urgency.

It is at the bottom end of your list that you cut and cull - not the top end.

Unless you can get an exceptional "deal" on a player well into the twilight of their career (over 30 years of age) because the likes of the Suns and GWS require short term experienced players with a profile.

[ausfatcat]

Why the hell do some want to trade our best footballers, still with years on their side for unproven 18 year olds from an under age competition?

because he's a troll

[End Of An Era]

Why the hell do some want to trade our best footballers, still with years on their side for unproven 18 year olds from an under age competition?

We need our best footballers at St Kilda so we can build a team around them - and, as the voting last night evidenced, we want our best footballers in good physical shape and in good form because they were not in 2011.

Others mentioned for trade, such as Gilbert, should also be retained as the building blocks for the progression of the 19/21 year olds on our list who have had little exposure to date - and where we have to find out if they have the ability to progress as a matter of urgency.

It is at the bottom end of your list that you cut and cull - not the top end.

Unless you can get an exceptional "deal" on a player well into the twilight of their career (over 30 years of age) because the likes of the Suns and GWS require short term experienced players with a profile.

So we can have our best shot at winning the flag the next time we are a contender. If you think we can be a contender again before Dal and BJ retire then keep them. However I reckon Dal and BJ will be long retired before we challenge again. That being the case, we should trade both of them now while they still have currency. Imagine what we could do with 4 top 10 picks!!! Not to mention with those 2 gone, players like Winmar, Sippos and Cripps and the other youngsters would be forced to step up rather than just be languishing in the reserves.

[Dr Spaceman]

Why the hell do some want to trade our best footballers, still with years on their side for unproven 18 year olds from an under age competition?

We need our best footballers at St Kilda so we can build a team around them - and, as the voting last night evidenced, we want our best footballers in good physical shape and in good form because they were not in 2011.

Others mentioned for trade, such as Gilbert, should also be retained as the building blocks for the progression of the 19/21 year olds on our list who have had little exposure to date - and where we have to find out if they have the ability to progress as a matter of urgency.

It is at the bottom end of your list that you cut and cull - not the top end.

Unless you can get an exceptional "deal" on a player well into the twilight of their career (over 30 years of age) because the likes of the Suns and GWS require short term experienced players with a profile.

So we can have our best shot at winning the flag the next time we are a contender. If you think we can be a contender again before Dal and BJ retire then keep them. However I reckon Dal and BJ will be long retired before we challenge again. That being the case, we should trade both of them now while they still have currency. Imagine what we could do with 4 top 10 picks!!! Not to mention with those 2 gone, players like Winmar, Sippos and Cripps and the other youngsters would be forced to step up rather than just be languishing in the reserves.

What's all this "we" stuff

[SaintPav]

Why the hell do some want to trade our best footballers, still with years on their side for unproven 18 year olds from an under age competition?

We need our best footballers at St Kilda so we can build a team around them - and, as the voting last night evidenced, we want our best footballers in good physical shape and in good form because they were not in 2011.

Others mentioned for trade, such as Gilbert, should also be retained as the building blocks for the progression of the 19/21 year olds on our list who have had little exposure to date - and where we have to find out if they have the ability to progress as a matter of urgency.

It is at the bottom end of your list that you cut and cull - not the top end.

Unless you can get an exceptional "deal" on a player well into the twilight of their career (over 30 years of age) because the likes of the Suns and GWS require short term experienced players with a profile.

So we can have our best shot at winning the flag the next time we are a contender. If you think we can be a contender again before Dal and BJ retire then keep them. However I reckon Dal and BJ will be long retired before we challenge again. That being the case, we should trade both of them now while they still have currency. Imagine what we could do with 4 top 10 picks!!! Not to mention with those 2 gone, players like Winmar, Sippos and Cripps and the other youngsters would be forced to step up rather than just be languishing in the reserves.

drop dead you sad person.

[Richter]

Imagine what we could do with 4 top 10 picks!!!

Don't need to imagine... We have 6 top 10 picks on our list....

2000

Pick 1 - Nick Riewoldt
Pick 2 - Justin Koschitzke

2002

Pick 1 - Brendan Goddard

2003

Pick 4 - Farren Ray
Pick 8 - Raphael Clarke

2006

Pick 9 - David Armitage

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Any that I have forgotten? (Obviously MG has just retired and was pick 1 in 1996)

[Ross who?]

Why the hell do some want to trade our best footballers, still with years on their side for unproven 18 year olds from an under age competition?

We need our best footballers at St Kilda so we can build a team around them - and, as the voting last night evidenced, we want our best footballers in good physical shape and in good form because they were not in 2011.

Others mentioned for trade, such as Gilbert, should also be retained as the building blocks for the progression of the 19/21 year olds on our list who have had little exposure to date - and where we have to find out if they have the ability to progress as a matter of urgency.

It is at the bottom end of your list that you cut and cull - not the top end.

Unless you can get an exceptional "deal" on a player well into the twilight of their career (over 30 years of age) because the likes of the Suns and GWS require short term experienced players with a profile.

So we can have our best shot at winning the flag the next time we are a contender. If you think we can be a contender again before Dal and BJ retire then keep them. However I reckon Dal and BJ will be long retired before we challenge again. That being the case, we should trade both of them now while they still have currency. Imagine what we could do with 4 top 10 picks!!! Not to mention with those 2 gone, players like Winmar, Sippos and Cripps and the other youngsters would be forced to step up rather than just be languishing in the reserves.

Solution if YOUwant top ten picks. YOU piss off and barrack for GWS

[Dr Spaceman]

[noob]

Yet not all of those top 10 picks we've got would get a game in every other club. Just shows you that even if you got 4 top 10 picks they arn't all going to work.