Melbourne's offer to RL !!

Eastern · Post: # 1149381Post **Eastern** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 1:52pm

A reliable source tells me that Melbourne DID have a real crack at RL and that they too were told to put their offer to his solicitor and NOT Craig Kelly. It is believed that the Melbourne offer was slightly better than the St Kilda offer and the ONLY thing that stalled the deal was RL's insistance that $1.5Mill of the deal be paid "UP FRONT". Freo, who had been working in the background for several weeks then raised their bid, including the UP FRONT component from $750,000 to $1.5Mill !!

stkildathunda · Sat 24 Sep 2011 1:57pm

This is in Caro's article today hidden down the bottom....

Several days after Ross Lyon quit St Kilda and it emerged he had been negotiating with not one but two AFL clubs,

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/l ... z1YplzB4TR

Con Gorozidis · Sat 24 Sep 2011 1:58pm

I definitely believe this.

The big issue was the 1.5 upfront to gain immediate financial relief.
We know he had big losses. But maybe there debts to friends etc etc.

There is a very good chance lyon would have not told the sains this due to pride and not wanting to lose face.

The players and the fans have to stop blaming the board for letting him get away. This was a highly unusual set of circs. For better or worse he was selling himself to the highest bidder.

Saints are going to be fine.

Rosco · Post: # 1149388Post **Rosco** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 2:07pm

stkildathunda wrote:This is in Caro's article today hidden down the bottom....

Several days after Ross Lyon quit St Kilda and it emerged he had been negotiating with not one but two AFL clubs,

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/l ... z1YplzB4TR

i think the two clubs she is referring to are st kilda and freo.

After investigating what actually went on between Lyon and St Kilda and Fremantle, the more realistic conclusion is that football was not catching up with any other sport. It was in fact being dragged down.

noob · Post: # 1149389Post **noob** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 2:13pm

were told ? who said that

SainterK · Post: # 1149390Post **SainterK** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 2:14pm

I do find it strange that Misson has gone there, at some point, perhaps they were moving as a team?

Spinner · Post: # 1149399Post **Spinner** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 2:35pm

I've been told he had all but accepted Melbournes offer. Freo countered and gave him the night to think about it.

Our mate Kim from SportsNewsFirst may in fact been right.

We only know what happened behind the scene of what offer he accepted... Imagine all the wheeling and dealing that tool place that nobody still know about.

Cairnsman · Post: # 1149401Post **Cairnsman** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 2:40pm

He is going to be hounded for long time yet by the media. They will be like a junk yard dog in a butcher shop.

What he did was very unAustralian and just like Jools he will be hounded into the ground.

To the top · Sat 24 Sep 2011 2:56pm

As I understand it - correct.

Junction Oval · Sat 24 Sep 2011 3:06pm

You don't do deals of this nature "overnight."

I earlier posted elsewhere that there were talks going, possibly back to when Freo played us in Melbourne.

No info at all on the Melbourne offer.

spert · Post: # 1149436Post **spert** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 3:37pm

I suspect RL had a big financial issue to resolve and whoever had the requested money up-front, and could drop it ASAP in his bank account or his solicitor's trust fund, got him as coach immediately, regardless of prior discussions, negotiations etc. I also suspect his motivation for getting a premiership was purely for the personal financial flow-on, and as we didn't acheive a premiership, then RL's money radar would have been well and truely switched on come the start of 2011.

degruch · Post: # 1149441Post **degruch** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 3:49pm

Junction Oval wrote:You don't do deals of this nature "overnight."

I earlier posted elsewhere that there were talks going, possibly back to when Freo played us in Melbourne.

No info at all on the Melbourne offer.

Yep, as mentioned before, I cannot believe it wasn't known to someone that he was putting it about. The give-away being that no-one could possibly swing such a huge deal overnight, especially behind their management's back. If people on here don't believe the board was deceived (despite the spin), I'd like to know how they define deception!

Spinner · Post: # 1149466Post **Spinner** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 4:41pm

Who is saying that it was done overnight?

Talks, discussions were done for a while...

Doesnt take long to upgrade an offer for someone you really want.

degruch · Post: # 1149490Post **degruch** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 5:25pm

Spinner wrote:Who is saying that it was done overnight?

Some bloke call Ross Lion, and some guys called Fremental, or something.

St Ick · Post: # 1149492Post **St Ick** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 5:27pm

I'm shocked this hasn't already been brought up previously but....

Considering his ability, what he is going to give to Freo and how much he is being paid - an adequate compensation under AFL rules should be two first round draft picks, shouldn't it?

GoTheTorp · Post: # 1149505Post **GoTheTorp** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 6:02pm

SainterK wrote:I do find it strange that Misson has gone there, at some point, perhaps they were moving as a team?

Correct

stinger · Post: # 1149583Post **stinger** » Sat 24 Sep 2011 7:58pm

stkildathunda wrote:This is in Caro's article today hidden down the bottom....

Several days after Ross Lyon quit St Kilda and it emerged he had been negotiating with not one but two AFL clubs,

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/l ... z1YplzB4TR

interesting article...

ThomasR · Post: # 1149647Post **ThomasR** » Sun 25 Sep 2011 12:09am

SainterK wrote:I do find it strange that Misson has gone there, at some point, perhaps they were moving as a team?

Misson went because Melbourne offered him a 4 year deal at double the money. He had been asking for a new contract from the Saints for 6 months and nothing was forthcoming.. sound familiar?

SaintPav · Post: # 1149673Post **SaintPav** » Sun 25 Sep 2011 9:15am

ThomasR wrote:
SainterK wrote:I do find it strange that Misson has gone there, at some point, perhaps they were moving as a team?
Misson went because Melbourne offered him a 4 year deal at double the money. He had been asking for a new contract from the Saints for 6 months and nothing was forthcoming.. sound familiar?

According to Nettelfold, Misson was contracted. It sounds familiar If you believe Lyon's version of events.

saintly · Post: # 1149701Post **saintly** » Sun 25 Sep 2011 11:33am

Cairnsman wrote:He is going to be hounded for long time yet by the media. They will be like a junk yard dog in a butcher shop.

What he did was very unAustralian and just like Jools he will be hounded into the ground.

unfortunately, as soon as he starts winning games, and get the freo side in to finals. all will be forgotton by nearly everyone except the saints fans.

and if the win the grandfinal they will bow down to him and think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

saintbrat · Sun 25 Sep 2011 12:30pm

ThomasR wrote:
SainterK wrote:I do find it strange that Misson has gone there, at some point, perhaps they were moving as a team?
Misson went because Melbourne offered him a 4 year deal at double the money. He had been asking for a new contract from the Saints for 6 months and nothing was forthcoming.. sound familiar?

intersting Neeld obviusly had some provisos in going too

The result of that, he said, was snaring a ''world-class head of sports science'' - David Misson from St Kilda - and getting board permission to expand the Demons' coaching panel to eight full-time positions from next season, which ''stacks up very well with the best clubs''.

Neeld vowed he, Misson and the rest of the Demons' coaching and fitness departments would provide the players with ''an elite-level program'' that would require them to ''work bloody hard'' from when they return from annual leave on October 31

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/d ... z1YvJA0Zdw

Scollop · Post: # 1149735Post **Scollop** » Sun 25 Sep 2011 1:22pm

saintly wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:He is going to be hounded for long time yet by the media. They will be like a junk yard dog in a butcher shop.

What he did was very unAustralian and just like Jools he will be hounded into the ground.
unfortunately, as soon as he starts winning games, and get the freo side in to finals. all will be forgotton by nearly everyone except the saints fans.

and if the win the grandfinal they will bow down to him and think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread!

you've gotta be kidding...if freo win a GF with Lyon at the helm, I'll donate my knOb to the next 'Piranha' sequel.

In a feel good interview where Rossco is wearing his new Freo poloshirt, he tries to convince us that he values loyalty and that he understands how some of the Dockers fans were upset with the treatment of Mark Harvey. Lyon said he believes its an important part of 'humanity'...The media crucified Harvey for resting a heap of his stars when he needed to and for his attitude when the Dockers finals chances had been buried this year. I wonder if Lyon will cop the same sort of humanity and understanding from the Dockers board when he starts coming up with excuses..

I noticed in the interview that Lyon came up with his first excuse which I'm sure the media will be hearing a lot more of; 'We need to have a private jet shared between the two WA teams...etc.'

We'll be better off without Rossco.