BJ news

suss · Post: # 1148170Post **suss** » Thu 22 Sep 2011 11:52pm

degruch wrote:
suss wrote:I find his honesty refreshing. Essentially he's willing to admit that if they offer him truckloads more than what he's on, then he'd considerate it. There's nothing wrong with that and he'd be a nong if he didn't.
Still, we're applauding that now? Geez, things have changed over the last week or two, haven't they?

Read all my posts over the past week and you'll find that i've been very consistent: I have no problem with why Lyon left, I have a problem with how Lyon left. Any person offered a lot more than what they're on is entitled to consider it.

degruch · Post: # 1148175Post **degruch** » Thu 22 Sep 2011 11:56pm

St Ick wrote:
BigMart wrote:If he leaves..... We are back to our historical cultural ways....

Unable to hold our best
Serious? Far out, if he leaves its because he's been offerred a truck load of cash and thats pretty much it. It has nothing to do with our historical cultural ways!

Agree, you're forgetting BM, we have NDS and Gilbert re-signed already, plus Roo's not going anywhere...there'll be more to come. Yes, BJ is the biggest fish, but we haven't lost everything without him. The only thing that rings of the 'old days' will be GWS and GCFC replacing Carlton and Hawthorn, throwing cash at our top players - hopefully we won't be on our 3rd wooden spoon with players flying out the door.

degruch · Post: # 1148176Post **degruch** » Thu 22 Sep 2011 11:58pm

suss wrote:
degruch wrote:
suss wrote:I find his honesty refreshing. Essentially he's willing to admit that if they offer him truckloads more than what he's on, then he'd considerate it. There's nothing wrong with that and he'd be a nong if he didn't.
Still, we're applauding that now? Geez, things have changed over the last week or two, haven't they?
Read all my posts over the past week and you'll find that i've been very consistent: I have no problem with why Lyon left, I have a problem with how Lyon left. Any person offered a lot more than what they're on is entitled to consider it.

I understand Lyon going too, doesn't mean I like it...and I shouldn't be alone. I won't be applauding anyone that jumps for cash. If grabbing the Saints jumper and punching his chest is all an act, I'd be VERY surprised...if it is, and he goes for a wad of cash, I'd be more than disappointed, I'd be absolutely disgusted...just can't see it happening.

saintbrat · Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:26am

you know what I really liked

after the initial barrage he had some FUN....

SainterK · Post: # 1148202Post **SainterK** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:37am

Sometimes you can chase premierships, and get further away from them (hello Nathan Buckley)

Spinner · Post: # 1148203Post **Spinner** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:38am

SainterK wrote:Sometimes you can chase premierships, and get further away from them (hello Nathan Buckley)

And Leigh Colbert.

desertsaint · Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:41am

is it just us?
always reading the worst into things?
for gawd sake stop worrying so much.

matrix · Post: # 1148207Post **matrix** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:41am

hmmmm
interesting

heard that he...never mind

SainterK · Post: # 1148211Post **SainterK** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:44am

matrix wrote:hmmmm
interesting

heard that he...never mind

Paul?

matrix · Post: # 1148214Post **matrix** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:44am

huh k?

SainterK · Post: # 1148216Post **SainterK** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 12:45am

matrix wrote:
huh k?

Roos

Nevermind.

SA1NTER · Post: # 1148223Post **SA1NTER** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 1:00am

I will be extremely surprised now if he isn't gawn by 2013.

Maybe we're all just paranoid right now....but it doesn't sound good.

matrix · Post: # 1148224Post **matrix** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 1:04am

im sure most of us have heard stories from people involved with clubs
somehow

Con Gorozidis · Fri 23 Sep 2011 1:23am

Make him skipper now.

Speaking of which.... Gws are yet to announce a skipper. They must have someone in mind..... Who can it be ? Must be someone still playing ?

westy · Post: # 1148237Post **westy** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 1:54am

PARANOIA is sickening

defacto · Post: # 1148239Post **defacto** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 2:07am

if goddard was going it would have been announced by now. our seasons over.

he aint going anywhere for the 2012 season. he may go at the end of next season though. but i think we'll through him the captaincy for 2013.

Austinnn · Post: # 1148245Post **Austinnn** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 2:36am

Oh boo hoo.

If we wait till this time next year, free trade kicks in and he'll be a year older.

He's one of the few players on our list with any kind of currency.

We have had a few poor drafts lately and there is a severe lack of 2nd rung talent coming through.

Though he's a great player and our team won't be nearly as strong without him and he's in the peak of his career, and with the right body management could go another 8 years like Harves, he is just ONE man, and contrary to the opinion of many panicky posters here, our club will NOT BE GONE if he goes.

The club stands a chance. of losing him for nothing anyway, so they can either be reactive like they seemed to be with Lyon, or they can be pro-active and try and turn this negative into a positive by getting a few gun kids for him, a la Plugger Lockett.

I'll be happy if he stays or goes. This is real now, no more fairytales.

groupie1 · Post: # 1148247Post **groupie1** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 3:52am

St Ick wrote:
BigMart wrote:If he leaves..... We are back to our historical cultural ways....

Unable to hold our best
Serious? Far out, if he leaves its because he's been offerred a truck load of cash and thats pretty much it. It has nothing to do with our historical cultural ways!

I agree, daft post. What is a historical cultural way? Is it something that is both historical and cultural, or historically cultural, or culturally historic? Or you mean historic and cultural.

And 'Unable to hold our best'... Wonder what Doc Baldock and Robert Harvey have to say about that.

Dan Warna · Post: # 1148253Post **Dan Warna** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 6:58am

maybe we should trade every player before their contract is up, and if we did trade BJ for some kids we should trade them as well, straight away, because they might go.

heck we should live in fear forever.

Dr Spaceman · Fri 23 Sep 2011 9:03am

I believe BJ will receive an offer for 2013 onwards. I believe it will be a very big offer. I believe he will be sorely tempted by that offer.

However I also believe that any decision to stay or go will be largely based on what happens to the Saints in this period of transition.

Predictions of a slide under a new coach who has not even been named. How could BJ even know what he wants to do yet?

If we do a Geelong he may well remain a Saint. If we do a Port it probably makes sense to go.

SaintPav · Post: # 1148287Post **SaintPav** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 9:24am

degruch wrote:
suss wrote:
degruch wrote:
suss wrote:I find his honesty refreshing. Essentially he's willing to admit that if they offer him truckloads more than what he's on, then he'd considerate it. There's nothing wrong with that and he'd be a nong if he didn't.
Still, we're applauding that now? Geez, things have changed over the last week or two, haven't they?
Read all my posts over the past week and you'll find that i've been very consistent: I have no problem with why Lyon left, I have a problem with how Lyon left. Any person offered a lot more than what they're on is entitled to consider it.
I understand Lyon going too, doesn't mean I like it...and I shouldn't be alone. I won't be applauding anyone that jumps for cash. If grabbing the Saints jumper and punching his chest is all an act, I'd be VERY surprised...if it is, and he goes for a wad of cash, I'd be more than disappointed, I'd be absolutely disgusted...just can't see it happening.

Back in the 80s both Hawthorn and Carlton threw money at St Kilda for players and the club took it becuase the club had no working cash flow. They were insolvent. It was a completley different situation.

Ross who? · Post: # 1148288Post **Ross who?** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 9:30am

StNoodles wrote:
Little Dozer wrote:
Armoooo wrote:My take, he is a 90% chance of being at GWS in 2013.
10% chance of him being there in 2012.

We need to be prepared that BJ could go.
The club should strongly considering trading now then before free-agency takes affect.
Agreed, but is he tradeable if contracted?

If clubs and player all agree to trade contracts mean sweet FA

saintly · Post: # 1148303Post **saintly** » Fri 23 Sep 2011 10:10am

Austinnn wrote:Oh boo hoo.

If we wait till this time next year, free trade kicks in and he'll be a year older.

He's one of the few players on our list with any kind of currency.

We have had a few poor drafts lately and there is a severe lack of 2nd rung talent coming through.

Though he's a great player and our team won't be nearly as strong without him and he's in the peak of his career, and with the right body management could go another 8 years like Harves, he is just ONE man, and contrary to the opinion of many panicky posters here, our club will NOT BE GONE if he goes.

The club stands a chance. of losing him for nothing anyway, so they can either be reactive like they seemed to be with Lyon, or they can be pro-active and try and turn this negative into a positive by getting a few gun kids for him, a la Plugger Lockett.

I'll be happy if he stays or goes. This is real now, no more fairytales.

Agree,

this is the reality we now have to face. the sky won't fall in, if he leaves, and if he goes to GWS in 2013 we get excellent draft picks to help in the future, not a bad thing to happen. Better then what happened with Ball.

Snakeman66 · Fri 23 Sep 2011 10:10am

Dr Spaceman wrote:I believe BJ will receive an offer for 2013 onwards. I believe it will be a very big offer. I believe he will be sorely tempted by that offer.

However I also believe that any decision to stay or go will be largely based on what happens to the Saints in this period of transition.

Predictions of a slide under a new coach who has not even been named. How could BJ even know what he wants to do yet?

If we do a Geelong he may well remain a Saint. If we do a Port it probably makes sense to go.

He needs to be made captain for next year.

borderbarry · Fri 23 Sep 2011 10:33am

He will be Captain next season. Just a matter of which team!