What type of players do we need to add to our list?
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What type of players do we need to add to our list?
What type of players do we need t0 add to our list? and dont answer good ones.
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Re: What type of players do we need to add to our list?
Pick the best available youth in the National Draft.borderbarry wrote:What type of players do we need t0 add to our list? and dont answer good ones.
As far as trades are concerned, if we do participate we should ask for National Draft Picks for any players that we might trade.
To be honest Barry, it's hard to know.
I'd like to see guys like Walsh, Lynch, Simpkin, Winmar...plus last years crop...given more games.
I'd say we need a key forward, but there could very well be one under our noses already.
When I look at the list, it appears it's still the run and carry, pacey guys that we lack?
I'd like to see guys like Walsh, Lynch, Simpkin, Winmar...plus last years crop...given more games.
I'd say we need a key forward, but there could very well be one under our noses already.
When I look at the list, it appears it's still the run and carry, pacey guys that we lack?
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1) Strong Full Back
2) Full Forward (if kosi takes 2nd ruck spot, but Walsh may solve this problem)
3) Small forward to replace milne when he retires
4) Tough, in and under midfielder to replace lenny when he retires
5) That elusive 3rd forward
6) Rebounding defender with good skills (if gilbo goes to gws)
2) Full Forward (if kosi takes 2nd ruck spot, but Walsh may solve this problem)
3) Small forward to replace milne when he retires
4) Tough, in and under midfielder to replace lenny when he retires
5) That elusive 3rd forward
6) Rebounding defender with good skills (if gilbo goes to gws)
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1) Zac is sufficient, but happy to develop a big bodied kid.SaintSimmo wrote:1) Strong Full Back
2) Full Forward (if kosi takes 2nd ruck spot, but Walsh may solve this problem)
3) Small forward to replace milne when he retires
4) Tough, in and under midfielder to replace lenny when he retires
5) That elusive 3rd forward
6) Rebounding defender with good skills (if gilbo goes to gws)
2) Dawes, or make a play for Zac Clarke meaning Kosi FT forward
3) Crocker/Curren
4) Steven and Armo to step up again
5) Fev
6) We have a plethora of these players. Losing one wont mean we need to replace from outside our list.
I think our priority should be best mid available, plus a ready made fwd. Ideal world would give us Mitch Clark/Chris Dawes and O'Meara - we have no chance of either though.
If a slider came to us, ie, Jack Darling, Isaac Smith, Dyson Heppell from last years draft we should jump all over it. Darling was a massive stuff up from us at last years draft. I hope I'm wrong about Cripps and he turns into a superstar, but we could have gotten Darling and missed him - now this year we've noticed a deficiency in a good 3rd fwd.
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I personally feel we need a stronger full back. a powerful full forward (and I cant understand why Walsh was'nt tried)
some speed in the mid field, some speed in defence and speed in the forward /half forward area, as well as a young ruckman to develop.
We need so much that if we just took the best player available for our first few picks we would not be far off the mark.
some speed in the mid field, some speed in defence and speed in the forward /half forward area, as well as a young ruckman to develop.
We need so much that if we just took the best player available for our first few picks we would not be far off the mark.
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Yeah not taking Darling was a massive stuff up...However we're not the only club to overlook him and I'm optimistic that Cripps will be that quick and skilful midfielder that we've been screaming out for
Walsh may fill the power forward void which Darling could have
Siposs the medium forward
Crocker the small forward
Stanley the forward / 2nd ruck
Our backs look fairly settled
Still need another couple of mids. Gaff would be ideal
Walsh may fill the power forward void which Darling could have
Siposs the medium forward
Crocker the small forward
Stanley the forward / 2nd ruck
Our backs look fairly settled
Still need another couple of mids. Gaff would be ideal
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Draft wish list
1st Round – Selection 20 St Kilda
Shane Nelson
Club: West Perth
Age: 18
Height: 179 cm
Weight: 73 kg
"Represented WA at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships playing in all games averaging 22 disposals. He is very effective with his disposals and works tirelessly to get to as many contests as possible. A quick player who can play in the midfield and can go forward and kick goals."
Comparison: Leigh Montagna
Midfielder who can go forward!
Taylor Adams
Club: Geelong Falcons
Age: 17
Height: 181 cm
Weight: 80 kg
"Represented Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 18.8 possessions and four tackles over four games. An exceptional leader and role model for other players. He is a clean ball handler and strong around contested footy. He was selected as an All Australian in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships."
Comparison: Nathan Foley
Classy midfielder – with pace & agility
Sam Kerridge
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Age: 18
Height: 188cm,
Weight: 84kg,
Really powerful midfielder. Racks up big numbers in the midfield and this kid is a serious jet. Has an immense burst of speed and was very unlucky not to get games for Vic Country. Has that trademark Judd type explosive speed. Always looks dangerous when he gets near it and gets big clearance numbers. Strong mark overhead. Really great size and can get amongst the goals. Has been very consistent throughout the year.
Comparison: Judd/Pendlebury
Big bodied quick midfielder – clearance king!
2nd Round – Selection 42 St Kilda
Jackson Paine
Club: Sandringham Dragons/ Melbourne Grammar
Age: 18
Height: 194cm
Weight: 86kg
"Represented Vic Metro at the Under 18 Championships. He is a very strong key position player who runs very hard at the contest and has the ability to split open a pack with his strong marking."
Comparison: Matthew Pavlich
Great Key forward prospect!
Matthew Jacquier
Club: Woodville West-Torrens
Age: 18
Height: 189 cm
Weight: 82 kg
"He shows good game sense as a strong marking forward with natural pace and good disposal skills on both sides."
Comparison: Steven Johnson
Cant have enough natural goal kickers!
Haiden Schlothe
Club: South Fremantle Football Club
Age: 18
Height: 179cm
Weight: 72kg
Profile: Really good user of the footy. Looks dangerous whenever he gets near it. Good reader of the play. Has that radar where he just knows exactly where the goals are. Looks incredibly draftable. Has really impressed me and stood out in the couple of games I’ve seen of him. Can play up the field but just love what I’ve seen of him as a forward!
Comparison: Mark LeCras
Apparently Collingwood are very keen on this kid – small forward option.
3rd Round – Selection 57 St Kilda
Julian Dobosz
Club: North Hobart
Age: 18
Height: 193cm
Weight: 85kg
"Very smart player inside 50 averaging 3.8 goals in 4 matches in the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships. Reads the ball well in flight, positions himself cleverly in the marking contest, has sure hands and an accurate shot for goal."
Natural full forward – could be anything!
Tom Downie
Club: North Ballarat Rebels
Age: 18
Height: 205 cm
Weight: 95 kg
"Represented Australia in the World Under-17 Basketball Championships in Germany 2010 before playing football for St Patricks College Ballarat this year, then joining the Rebels at the end of the season for two matches, averaging 13 disposals, showing outstanding natural talent."
Best available ruckmen !
Sebastian Ross
Club: North Ballarat Rebels
Age: 18 Height: 187 cm Weight: 82 kg
"Represented Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships, averaging 14.5 possessions and four tackles a game. His strengths are his work rate, contested footy, preparation and leadership. He is the cousin of Jobe Watson."
Comparison: Nic Dal Santo
Classy midfielder!
4th Round – Selection 78 St Kilda
Ahmed Saad
Club: Northern Bullants
Age: 22
Height: 176cm
Weight: 76kg,
Probably the best crumbing forward going around in the VFL. Comes from a soccer background. Really creative right foot goal sneak. Knows where the goals are. Reads the play incredibly well. Has nice speed. Gives really good tackling effort consistently and works hard whenever the ball is anywhere near his area. Very right foot reliant and needs to continue working on creating a left foot.
Small forward replacement for Milne!
Jason Williams
Club: Calder Cannons
Age: 17 Height: 188 cm Weight: 78 kg
"He has a strong ability to carry the ball and break the lines. He marks well and has shown he is dangerous when pushing forward. He is very competitive and tackles strongly. He is the cousin of former Hawk and Bomber, Mark Williams."
Classy forward with midfield ability.
Jack Newnes
Club: Northern Knights
Age: 18 Height: 184 cm Weight: 73 kg
"Represented Vic Metro at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships, averaging 14 possessions. He reads the ball well and is versatile enough to play back, midfield or forward. He has a penetrating kick, good user inside and he is a solid tackler."
Another midfield option. [/b]
Shane Nelson
Club: West Perth
Age: 18
Height: 179 cm
Weight: 73 kg
"Represented WA at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships playing in all games averaging 22 disposals. He is very effective with his disposals and works tirelessly to get to as many contests as possible. A quick player who can play in the midfield and can go forward and kick goals."
Comparison: Leigh Montagna
Midfielder who can go forward!
Taylor Adams
Club: Geelong Falcons
Age: 17
Height: 181 cm
Weight: 80 kg
"Represented Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 18.8 possessions and four tackles over four games. An exceptional leader and role model for other players. He is a clean ball handler and strong around contested footy. He was selected as an All Australian in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships."
Comparison: Nathan Foley
Classy midfielder – with pace & agility
Sam Kerridge
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Age: 18
Height: 188cm,
Weight: 84kg,
Really powerful midfielder. Racks up big numbers in the midfield and this kid is a serious jet. Has an immense burst of speed and was very unlucky not to get games for Vic Country. Has that trademark Judd type explosive speed. Always looks dangerous when he gets near it and gets big clearance numbers. Strong mark overhead. Really great size and can get amongst the goals. Has been very consistent throughout the year.
Comparison: Judd/Pendlebury
Big bodied quick midfielder – clearance king!
2nd Round – Selection 42 St Kilda
Jackson Paine
Club: Sandringham Dragons/ Melbourne Grammar
Age: 18
Height: 194cm
Weight: 86kg
"Represented Vic Metro at the Under 18 Championships. He is a very strong key position player who runs very hard at the contest and has the ability to split open a pack with his strong marking."
Comparison: Matthew Pavlich
Great Key forward prospect!
Matthew Jacquier
Club: Woodville West-Torrens
Age: 18
Height: 189 cm
Weight: 82 kg
"He shows good game sense as a strong marking forward with natural pace and good disposal skills on both sides."
Comparison: Steven Johnson
Cant have enough natural goal kickers!
Haiden Schlothe
Club: South Fremantle Football Club
Age: 18
Height: 179cm
Weight: 72kg
Profile: Really good user of the footy. Looks dangerous whenever he gets near it. Good reader of the play. Has that radar where he just knows exactly where the goals are. Looks incredibly draftable. Has really impressed me and stood out in the couple of games I’ve seen of him. Can play up the field but just love what I’ve seen of him as a forward!
Comparison: Mark LeCras
Apparently Collingwood are very keen on this kid – small forward option.
3rd Round – Selection 57 St Kilda
Julian Dobosz
Club: North Hobart
Age: 18
Height: 193cm
Weight: 85kg
"Very smart player inside 50 averaging 3.8 goals in 4 matches in the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships. Reads the ball well in flight, positions himself cleverly in the marking contest, has sure hands and an accurate shot for goal."
Natural full forward – could be anything!
Tom Downie
Club: North Ballarat Rebels
Age: 18
Height: 205 cm
Weight: 95 kg
"Represented Australia in the World Under-17 Basketball Championships in Germany 2010 before playing football for St Patricks College Ballarat this year, then joining the Rebels at the end of the season for two matches, averaging 13 disposals, showing outstanding natural talent."
Best available ruckmen !
Sebastian Ross
Club: North Ballarat Rebels
Age: 18 Height: 187 cm Weight: 82 kg
"Represented Vic Country at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships, averaging 14.5 possessions and four tackles a game. His strengths are his work rate, contested footy, preparation and leadership. He is the cousin of Jobe Watson."
Comparison: Nic Dal Santo
Classy midfielder!
4th Round – Selection 78 St Kilda
Ahmed Saad
Club: Northern Bullants
Age: 22
Height: 176cm
Weight: 76kg,
Probably the best crumbing forward going around in the VFL. Comes from a soccer background. Really creative right foot goal sneak. Knows where the goals are. Reads the play incredibly well. Has nice speed. Gives really good tackling effort consistently and works hard whenever the ball is anywhere near his area. Very right foot reliant and needs to continue working on creating a left foot.
Small forward replacement for Milne!
Jason Williams
Club: Calder Cannons
Age: 17 Height: 188 cm Weight: 78 kg
"He has a strong ability to carry the ball and break the lines. He marks well and has shown he is dangerous when pushing forward. He is very competitive and tackles strongly. He is the cousin of former Hawk and Bomber, Mark Williams."
Classy forward with midfield ability.
Jack Newnes
Club: Northern Knights
Age: 18 Height: 184 cm Weight: 73 kg
"Represented Vic Metro at the NAB AFL Under 18 Championships, averaging 14 possessions. He reads the ball well and is versatile enough to play back, midfield or forward. He has a penetrating kick, good user inside and he is a solid tackler."
Another midfield option. [/b]
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Saw a fair few VFL games this year. Of those who played against us I wonder what posters thought of Collingwood's Sundberg (especially his game at Trevor Barker Oval) and yes I know he is a bit one sided.
The other player who has always impressed me as lovely kick, great reader of the play and classy mover is Sam Dwyer and I also wondered what other VFL fans think of him as a prospective selection.
Both would probably fall to very low in the rookie draft I imagine.
The other player who has always impressed me as lovely kick, great reader of the play and classy mover is Sam Dwyer and I also wondered what other VFL fans think of him as a prospective selection.
Both would probably fall to very low in the rookie draft I imagine.
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Probably need what we aint got! Always need a good midfield, but premiership teams are balanced across all lines -or at least have a winner in a lot of positions from back to forward. We need players who are good one-on-one players, who can show they can beat their opponents one-out. If I was a recruiter, I would have an eye out for players small to big who are good overhead and who have good footskills. A tall order, but a lot of work needs to be done to improve the "bottom six" for starters
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(1) Must have good footskills regardless of position
(2) Need mids who can win plenty of their own ball - but not at the expense of (1)
(3) A tall defender
(4) A backup ruckman
(5) A mobile 3rd tall forward - the player that Jarryd Allen would have become. We may already have one in our ranks who needs to be given a chance (Lynch, Walsh, Stanley)
(2) Need mids who can win plenty of their own ball - but not at the expense of (1)
(3) A tall defender
(4) A backup ruckman
(5) A mobile 3rd tall forward - the player that Jarryd Allen would have become. We may already have one in our ranks who needs to be given a chance (Lynch, Walsh, Stanley)
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Of the players mentioned above by Winners Only, I fancy Sam Kerridge in the first round,. maybe Jackson Payne in the second. and I like all the 3 mentioned in the 3rd round. I am glad I am not selecting them. Although I would make room for Murray Newman (WA – Mid/Fwd)
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Height: 177cm, Weight: 65kg, DOB: 18/11/1993
Recruited from: Swan Districts Football Club
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i think youll find that ross wasnt with this year his compassion went out the window or him and walshy had some probelmsborderbarry wrote:I personally feel we need a stronger full back. a powerful full forward (and I cant understand why Walsh was'nt tried)
some speed in the mid field, some speed in defence and speed in the forward /half forward area, as well as a young ruckman to develop.
We need so much that if we just took the best player available for our first few picks we would not be far off the mark.
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A mates nephew got drafted to the Pies last year and he has been watching all their games. He said sundberg was a really good player and should get picked up this year. Said he's been BOG most games he went to.Hemi Baxter wrote:Saw a fair few VFL games this year. Of those who played against us I wonder what posters thought of Collingwood's Sundberg (especially his game at Trevor Barker Oval) and yes I know he is a bit one sided.
The other player who has always impressed me as lovely kick, great reader of the play and classy mover is Sam Dwyer and I also wondered what other VFL fans think of him as a prospective selection.
Both would probably fall to very low in the rookie draft I imagine.