All about the money

chook23 · Post: # 1146507Post **chook23** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 8:28am

Whilst it was his option to leave

I cant have that he allowed our mangement/his management to be be in discussion that had both parties agreed on a contract BUT behind both he dealt direct with Freo

Stabbing Saints/his management and Harvey

He was prepared to do anything...................

for money replacement

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... 1kjds.html

Old Mate · Post: # 1146515Post **Old Mate** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 8:37am

He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.

spert · Post: # 1146516Post **spert** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 8:39am

Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.

Not a bloke I would go to war with..

Old Mate · Post: # 1146517Post **Old Mate** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 8:40am

spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..

He's an excellent family man

kosifantutti23 · Wed 21 Sep 2011 8:50am

chook23 wrote:Whilst it was his option to leave

I cant have that he allowed our mangement/his management to be be in discussion that had both parties agreed on a contract BUT behind both he dealt direct with Freo

Stabbing Saints/his management and Harvey

He was prepared to do anything...................

for money replacement

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... 1kjds.html

I thought that it was pretty clear he couldn't involve his management because they also managed Harvey. He couldn't ask his management to stop negotiations when he couldn't give them the reason why.

chook23 · Post: # 1146523Post **chook23** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 8:55am

kosifantutti23 wrote:
chook23 wrote:Whilst it was his option to leave

I cant have that he allowed our mangement/his management to be be in discussion that had both parties agreed on a contract BUT behind both he dealt direct with Freo

Stabbing Saints/his management and Harvey

He was prepared to do anything...................

for money replacement

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... 1kjds.html
I thought that it was pretty clear he couldn't involve his management because they also managed Harvey. He couldn't ask his management to stop negotiations when he couldn't give them the reason why.

Thats what makes it even a bigger act of deceit

BUT he was happy for his management to carry on negotion on his behalf
leaving both thinking that they were acting in good faith on his behalf

dog act

saintbrat · Post: # 1146532Post **saintbrat** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 9:27am

Old Mate wrote:
spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..
He's an excellent family man

just wish he'd shown a bit more of that-- maybe some would not be thinking he was all ice and sponsors etc may have gotten more 'empathy'

note he never showed family whilst at the saints- It's work
but first interview for dockers and out come the photos
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/09/21/ ... -420x0.jpg

SaintPav · Post: # 1146538Post **SaintPav** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 9:37am

Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.

Everyone should admit that they are pissed off becuae they liked him so much. I did.

Having said that, I think a change is exactly what we need. Life goes on and no one is ireplaceable.

Mrs_Seaford_Saint · Wed 21 Sep 2011 9:45am

saintbrat wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..
He's an excellent family man
just wish he'd shown a bit more of that-- maybe some would not be thinking he was all ice and sponsors etc may have gotten more 'empathy'

note he never showed family whilst at the saints- It's work
but first interview for dockers and out come the photos
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/09/21/ ... -420x0.jpg

Funny that huh - PR on over drive!

saintbrat · Post: # 1146544Post **saintbrat** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 9:47am

Mrs_Seaford_Saint wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..
He's an excellent family man
just wish he'd shown a bit more of that-- maybe some would not be thinking he was all ice and sponsors etc may have gotten more 'empathy'

note he never showed family whilst at the saints- It's work
but first interview for dockers and out come the photos
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/09/21/ ... -420x0.jpg
Funny that huh - PR on over drive!

yeh and I'm sad he never did that at the saints- ps mrs check photo carefully- maybe a little extra reason for the $$ need...

markp · Post: # 1146565Post **markp** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:21am

Total PR puff piece... family pic and all, and a free kick from The West Australian, I wonder what interests they're trying to look after?

If you think the whole truth is in that article, I think you're dreaming.

And I bet Rod would have lent him some cash!

St Lenny · Post: # 1146567Post **St Lenny** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:28am

what a load of crap. How could he not think that St Kilda wanted him. He allowed the negotiations to go on, knowing he was looking elsewhere. That in its own tells you we were interested.

Maybe him and his wife have an open marriage thats why he doesnt believe in loyalty.

saintbrat · Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:30am

they know they have to do the PR to overcome the stigma of the situation
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Richter · Post: # 1146573Post **Richter** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:36am

Old Mate wrote:
spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..
He's an excellent family man

Any more than anyone else?

He's renowned for spending a lot of time at the office.

And lost over $1m of the family's wealth....

Richter · Post: # 1146575Post **Richter** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:41am

saintbrat wrote:yeh and I'm sad he never did that at the saints- ps mrs check photo carefully- maybe a little extra reason for the $$ need...

Hmm... I think I know what you're getting at SB. If so, certainly increases my empathy for the family's situation.

markp · Post: # 1146576Post **markp** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:41am

Richter wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..
He's an excellent family man
Any more than anyone else?

He's renowned for spending a lot of time at the office.

And lost over $1m of the family's wealth....

Had to be introduced to his kids at the photo shoot, apparently.

Old Mate · Post: # 1146578Post **Old Mate** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:45am

SaintPav wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Everyone should admit that they are pissed off becuae they liked him so much. I did.

Having said that, I think a change is exactly what we need. Life goes on and no one is ireplaceable.

Yeah exactly. kinda like losing the girl you thought would last forever. people just going through the stages of grief. Loss, anger, upset, forgiveness.

I dont know ross personally however he comes across as a decent bloke who had respect of his playing group and gave 110% commitment to the stkfc....and made mistakes but dont we all...?

Agree with your last sentence as well...a good time to spit

Old Mate · Post: # 1146579Post **Old Mate** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 10:46am

To split i meant

pr in force as ross has certainly come out looking like the bad guy. more to it and ill informed media just like with all the saints scandals of recent.

Eastern · Post: # 1146594Post **Eastern** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:03am

It would be interesting to know what Lyon's "Demands" were in relation to the "UP FRONT" component of his contract negotiations with BOTH ST Kilda & Fremantle were. It has been said that Freo offered in excess of $1Mill up front. If true, its even more astounding that the deal was done in 72 hours !!

degruch · Post: # 1146613Post **degruch** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:21am

Old Mate wrote:
spert wrote:
Old Mate wrote:He was backing two horses and Freo won. He was looking after his own financial security for him and his family. Good bloke imo.
Not a bloke I would go to war with..
He's an excellent family man

As long as it's HIS family

Not a great character, and that story doesn't sound right to me either...how does it all fit in with Melbourne's alleged huge offer, or his 3 day turn-around on deciding to leave the club? Was he not being offered money from St Kilda too?

markp · Post: # 1146614Post **markp** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:21am

Eastern wrote:It would be interesting to know what Lyon's "Demands" were in relation to the "UP FRONT" component of his contract negotiations with BOTH ST Kilda & Fremantle were. It has been said that Freo offered in excess of $1Mill up front. If true, its even more astounding that the deal was done in 72 hours !!

It would be ironic if money he lost in a mining venture was replaced (and then some) by money made from mining.....

degruch · Post: # 1146617Post **degruch** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:23am

markp wrote:
Eastern wrote:It would be interesting to know what Lyon's "Demands" were in relation to the "UP FRONT" component of his contract negotiations with BOTH ST Kilda & Fremantle were. It has been said that Freo offered in excess of $1Mill up front. If true, its even more astounding that the deal was done in 72 hours !!
It would be ironic if money he lost in a mining venture was replaced (and then some) by money made from mining.....

Maybe he lost all his money on a bad wager? I'm not surprised he's fleeing Centrebet!

Dr Spaceman · Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:36am

markp wrote:Total PR puff piece... family pic and all, and a free kick from The West Australian, I wonder what interests they're trying to look after?

If you think the whole truth is in that article, I think you're dreaming.

And I bet Rod would have lent him some cash!

How come he gets to use our elite training facility for his family snaps?

Enrico_Misso · Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:48am

It must have been dreadful for Ross.

The poor man had to sell his investment properties and was forced to just live on his salary.
Was almost forced to get his wife to work.
Talk about doing it tough.

markp · Post: # 1146645Post **markp** » Wed 21 Sep 2011 11:51am

Enrico_Misso wrote:It must have been dreadful for Ross.

The poor man had to sell his investment properties and was forced to just live on his salary.
Was almost forced to get his wife to work.
Talk about doing it tough.

Yep, 10k+ a week doesn't go as far as it used to.

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