Time to RE-JIG as some would say!!!thejiggingsaint wrote:Great posts! Could it be that there are SOME Sainters who are actually looking forward to next season? (I thought it was just me)
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3rd generation saint wrote:
For me, and I've followed this team since almost the day I landed in this country in September 1965, I'm willing to give them more time, because so far, they are the second best board in the history of this club.
Still haven't seen your master plan chief.barks4eva wrote:3rd generation saint wrote:
For me, and I've followed this team since almost the day I landed in this country in September 1965, I'm willing to give them more time, because so far, they are the second best board in the history of this club.
OH DEAR
So they manage to lose the coach that they didn't even appoint to begin with
respected in the industry as one of the best that took us to back to back Grand Finals
and even then they still didn't back him inÂ
and the get out clauses which this board themselves inserted
end up being used by the coach to walk out on us
and all this after they end up offering virtually the same deal they declined in April
OUTSTANDING
and you give them the credit for us making these Grand Finals, ARE YOU FOR REAL?
They get elected and then announce within two weeks that the club is relocating to Frankston without once mentioning anything about this prior to the vote of the members
now that is real DODGY, DISHONEST AND DECEITFUL
I spoke to Ross Levine in 2008 and told him exactly what I thought and how the move to Seaford would end up as a disaster
I also said "the players hate it"
he said "yeah I know the players are not happy about it" etc...etc...
he also told me Archie Fraser made a really good power point presentation on a white board that super impressed the whole board and they ticked off on it
Mass exodus of players coming and when Free Agency kicks in you're in dreamland if you think star players are not going to bail by the truckload, particularly after what has happened in the past week and all because of this board's total incompetence
and now a 1.5 million dollar loss the year after back to back Grand Finals
UNBELIEVABLE
the blind leading the blind
Yand now a 1.5 million dollar loss the year after back to back Grand Finals
I have a very good memory so do not need to google3rd generation saint wrote:Barks, maybe you should check your history regarding Seaford.
The announcement was made on 17 September 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About a year and a half after they got elected in late 06.
Also I remember they we're considering Casey Fields or Frankston long before the announcement was made, depended on which council was going to give them the best deal.
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE PREACHING TO EVERYONE ELSE, hey all you had to do is Google it.
U r a control freak like RL like P66. You need to force your views.barks4eva wrote:I have a very good memory so do not need to google3rd generation saint wrote:Barks, maybe you should check your history regarding Seaford.
The announcement was made on 17 September 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About a year and a half after they got elected in late 06.
Also I remember they we're considering Casey Fields or Frankston long before the announcement was made, depended on which council was going to give them the best deal.
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE PREACHING TO EVERYONE ELSE, hey all you had to do is Google it.
but thanks for unwittingly providing the Dorothy Dixer anyway
FACTS
Footy First were elected in 2007 and made the announcement about moving to Frankston almost immediately after being installed BUT never once mentioned it prior to the vote!
The process was very stop, start and for many reasons was delayed with the initial location of Frankston Park being ruled out.
Eventually Archie Fraser drove around the area looking for a vacant lot, found Belvedere Park and then managed to convince a vacant lot to agree to it
The official announcement of the move to Seaford was made about a year later... as you googled it, I'll take the date you supplied as being accurate!
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND MOST CERTAINLY BEFORE ADVISING ME OF ANYTHING IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!!!!!!!
and while you're at it, GET A FAIR DINKUM CLUE!
By the way Butterss ruled out Frankston and Casey as options,
It was the then CEO Archie Fraser who was proposing this nonsense and he did not have the unanimous support of the previous board
Archie Fraser helped orchestrate/ initiated the move on Butterss then implemented his plan with the current board who he had helped to install!!!!!!!!!!
barks4eva wrote:I have a very good memory so do not need to google3rd generation saint wrote:Barks, maybe you should check your history regarding Seaford.
The announcement was made on 17 September 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About a year and a half after they got elected in late 06.
Also I remember they we're considering Casey Fields or Frankston long before the announcement was made, depended on which council was going to give them the best deal.
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE PREACHING TO EVERYONE ELSE, hey all you had to do is Google it.
but thanks for unwittingly providing the Dorothy Dixer anyway
FACTS
Footy First were elected in 2007 and made the announcement about moving to Frankston almost immediately after being installed BUT never once mentioned it prior to the vote!
The process was very stop, start and for many reasons was delayed with the initial location of Frankston Park being ruled out.
Eventually Archie Fraser drove around the area looking for a vacant lot, found Belvedere Park and then managed to convince a vacant lot to agree to it
The official announcement of the move to Seaford was made about a year later... as you googled it, I'll take the date you supplied as being accurate!
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND MOST CERTAINLY BEFORE ADVISING ME OF ANYTHING IN BIG CAPITAL LETTERS!!!!!!!!!!
and while you're at it, GET A FAIR DINKUM CLUE!
By the way Butterss ruled out Frankston and Casey as options,
It was the then CEO Archie Fraser who was proposing this nonsense and he did not have the unanimous support of the previous board
Archie Fraser helped orchestrate/ initiated the move on Butterss then implemented his plan with the current board who he had helped to install!!!!!!!!!!
What a nice little dittyPJ wrote:Yep misson in actionDr Spaceman wrote:First Lyon was caught lyin'
Now Misson's gone missin'
& the lyin distraction
but only for a fraction
of a coachin contraction
that's gone into abstraction
In Kilda we trustSainterK wrote:What a nice little dittyPJ wrote:Yep misson in actionDr Spaceman wrote:First Lyon was caught lyin'
Now Misson's gone missin'
& the lyin distraction
but only for a fraction
of a coachin contraction
that's gone into abstraction
The end was not pretty
It fact it was shifty
But don't dwell in self pity
At least there's a committee
Though not innercity
We'll land someone thrifty
Peace.
You are describing Ross Lyonbarks4eva wrote:
now that is real DODGY, DISHONEST AND DECEITFUL
True Believer wrote:Just a point here B4E. I know you keep coming out now about the extremely high quality of the uber coach our incompetent board just lost us, but didn't you spend most of this season lamenting that he wouldn't play the kids? In particular, the back half of the season I seem to recall it was mainly Tommy Walsh?
How did Uber coach lack such a clue?
I dont think spending another $1 millon per year as RL wanted would have made us closer to premiership compared to bankruptcy.barks4eva wrote:True Believer wrote:Just a point here B4E. I know you keep coming out now about the extremely high quality of the uber coach our incompetent board just lost us, but didn't you spend most of this season lamenting that he wouldn't play the kids? In particular, the back half of the season I seem to recall it was mainly Tommy Walsh?
How did Uber coach lack such a clue?
Obviously Ross Lyon is a very smart man
My thoughts on this
When he sought some security in April and a four year deal he most likely realised it was time to regenerate the list and play the kids
look to the 2010 draft with an eye to the future Cripps, Crocker, Ledger, Sipposs
but with a board with a propensity for knee jerk reactions who had already jumped at shadows many times already eg:- Westaway publicly dishing our game style and inserting get out clauses into his current contract
he knew to move forward we would have to play the kids which might affect the win/loss ratio in the short term further leaving him vulnerable without any long term security from an already untrusting board
mind you this after successive back to back Grand Finals
When the board refused to agree to his request in April and with the frosty relationship they had maintained with him since the get go
he decided in his own interest and who could blame him with a board putting him in this precarious position
to go with the tried and true, to coach for the now
to coach for this year and this year alone by getting the highest possible ladder position
so his team selection reflected a very short term vision defined by the actions of the board
If in April the board had of agreed to his request for a four year contract without get out clauses and given him the security that he very much sought
I have no doubt he would have removed the shackles and played more kids, more often and showed much more forward planning
that's my view on it
yes I was annoyed by Walsh not getting a game
I still don't agree
but reckon I now know the reasons as to why!
3rd generation saint wrote:Barks, maybe you should check your history regarding Seaford.
The announcement was made on 17 September 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
About a year and a half after they got elected in late 06.
Also I remember they we're considering Casey Fields or Frankston long before the announcement was made, depended on which council was going to give them the best deal.
SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE PREACHING TO EVERYONE ELSE, hey all you had to do is Google it.