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He needed to lose so that he could complete his negotiations with Fremantle quickly.stinger wrote:no...last night's footy show....indicated that the saints weren't being coached to win last week....saintbrat wrote:
when people say newman? was there more interviews pre game?
ace wrote:He needed to lose so that he could complete his negotiations with Fremantle quickly.stinger wrote:no...last night's footy show....indicated that the saints weren't being coached to win last week....saintbrat wrote:
when people say newman? was there more interviews pre game?
He needed time to be involved in Fremantle's list mangement and recruiting ahead of the upcoming trade period.
Demetriou should investigate this case to ensure corruption was not present.
i would have thought so....still...i think there is an issue with not picking gardiner...even that lying former prick coach of ours said that the game was lost at the selection table....millarsaint wrote:I'd be surprised if Gardi would play either way. Think he were more a back up if Ben went down during the finals.
However; feel that Lyon was unhealthily distracted and should have declared the outside interest to the board.
It would effect his capacity to perform his job.
If the board new Lyon was in negotiation with a topped up Freo, would they stand him down during the finals series? Maybe.
stinger wrote:you are a c*** lyon...i will despise you to the day i die.....gloves off there hey shithead....showed your true colours for once...tell me this.??.did you not pick gardiner last week in the hope we lost and were out of the finals quickly...sammy newman seems to think you did...and leigh matthews suggests your heart wasn't in the saints anymore during that game.....prick...eat s*** and die.....
..i always was a thomas fan....he would never have done what you just did.....you creep.....
..on the upside maybe the kids will get a game...and tommy....who did you develop during your 5 years with the club.....nobody really..did you , you turd...
...feel a bit better after that actually....
barks4eva wrote:stinger wrote:you are a c*** lyon...i will despise you to the day i die.....gloves off there hey shithead....showed your true colours for once...tell me this.??.did you not pick gardiner last week in the hope we lost and were out of the finals quickly...sammy newman seems to think you did...and leigh matthews suggests your heart wasn't in the saints anymore during that game.....prick...eat s*** and die.....
..i always was a thomas fan....he would never have done what you just did.....you creep.....
..on the upside maybe the kids will get a game...and tommy....who did you develop during your 5 years with the club.....nobody really..did you , you turd...
...feel a bit better after that actually....
Yes but do you like him or not...your post was full of ambiguity...stop fence sitting and tell us what you really think
...see that jb has you sorted out too...... 
stinger wrote:you are a c*** lyon...i will despise you to the day i die.....gloves off there hey shithead....showed your true colours for once...tell me this.??.did you not pick gardiner last week in the hope we lost and were out of the finals quickly...sammy newman seems to think you did...and leigh matthews suggests your heart wasn't in the saints anymore during that game.....prick...eat s*** and die.....
..i always was a thomas fan....he would never have done what you just did.....you creep.....
..on the upside maybe the kids will get a game...and tommy....who did you develop during your 5 years with the club.....nobody really..did you , you turd...
Well said Stinger, I am a fan of yours & agree with you word to word.
Also that bastard said that he has got 3 kids & a wife & all he did is for them, but what about the kids & family of Harvey whom you replaced.
...feel a bit better after that actually....
Sam Newman on the footy show. There's a credible source. Was he wearing black face when he said it?stinger wrote:no...last night's footy show....indicated that the saints weren't being coached to win last week....saintbrat wrote:
when people say newman? was there more interviews pre game?
Now that is hilarious.stinger wrote:ace wrote:He needed to lose so that he could complete his negotiations with Fremantle quickly.stinger wrote:no...last night's footy show....indicated that the saints weren't being coached to win last week....saintbrat wrote:
when people say newman? was there more interviews pre game?
He needed time to be involved in Fremantle's list mangement and recruiting ahead of the upcoming trade period.
Demetriou should investigate this case to ensure corruption was not present.
might not have coached to lose...but he didn't coach to win either....prick...
..i couldn't work out for the life of me why gardiner was dropped.....then the penny did.....
I know it's not popular to agree with youBigMart wrote:A lot of about turns........
This must mean i am 'allowed' to critisise Ross now.......and not get ridiculed for being a poor supporter...
Landscape has changed....but lyon today is still lyon a week ago.....,
I remember posting 8 weeks ago....he will make a cold, unemotional business decision......because it was the reason he was such a great coach....he didnt allow emotions or opinions to intefere with decision making.....he did so
Seems we have a lot of fickle people, who change their mind on a persons character after they make a career decision that doesn't suit them.....
Ball, Hall, lyon and umpteen others......all heros one day and dogs after they decide to look for a better environment for success....most occasions it has worked out for their benefit....
The way i see it....lyon walked for a reason...
He is an outstanding coach which will improve any team he joins
As usual you dont seem to get it.BigMart wrote:Seems we have a lot of fickle people, who change their mind on a persons character after they make a career decision that doesn't suit them.....
I agree with much of what you wrote Joffa. However I am sick of reading from others of how we're better off without him, that he was a one trick pony, that he inherited a list of supposed stars and couldn't get the job done. I have no problem with ppl venting their spleen at the way he left our club - I think it leaves a sour taste in everyone's mouth - but the irrational garbage about how now Freo will suffer b/c he's hopeless, or b/c he has low morals is just laughable.joffaboy wrote:As usual you dont seem to get it.BigMart wrote:Seems we have a lot of fickle people, who change their mind on a persons character after they make a career decision that doesn't suit them.....
Lyon is a great coach, took us to nearly two flags.
Lyon is entitled to leave as is anyone and who could blame him for the coin Freo offered?
it has nothing to do with his coaching. Sure some thought it "boring". Personally i enjoy seeing the team win so I never found it "boring".
It has everything to do with the duplicitious nature of the dealings and the lies he has put on record.
He traded off being a man of his word. Told GT he wouldn't break his contract with Sydney because he was honour bound to stay (when an assistant coach).
An article I posted done after the hawthorn loss he categorically stated he was contracted and would coach the Saints in 2012.
He looked the players in the eye and gave them every indication he was staying in 2012 a day before he walks out.
No doubt a great coach. but he has shown his true colours. He is of low character and a liar.
In hindsight (as i dont have a crystal ball like some on here) it is good that his character has been revealed.
I for one will be sad to see him go from a fottball sense. Winners are grinners. AFAIAC I couldn't care less if a coach is a prick or not. I dont want to be their friend.
The next STKFC may be a complete prick as well, too bad. Get us a result and I would care less.
However the discussion is about the former coaches character, which in the context of his departure is worth discussing.
His coaching ability should never be in question.
Having finally watched the press conference the one word that struck me with those two plonkers sitting either side is they came across as CARPETBAGGERSmad saint guy wrote:I love that Lyon uses Leigh Matthews as an example to justify his actions with Leigh then coming out and bagging Lyon. I reckon Ross has got two friends left in footy, and they were the sleazy insecure businessmen sitting next to him at the press conference.
stinger wrote:..i always was a thomas fan....he would never have done what you just did.....you creep.....
BigMart wrote:A lot of about turns........
This must mean i am 'allowed' to critisise Ross now.......and not get ridiculed for being a poor supporter...
Landscape has changed....but lyon today is still lyon a week ago.....,
I remember posting 8 weeks ago....he will make a cold, unemotional business decision......because it was the reason he was such a great coach....he didnt allow emotions or opinions to intefere with decision making.....he did so
Seems we have a lot of fickle people, who change their mind on a persons character after they make a career decision that doesn't suit them.....
Ball, Hall, lyon and umpteen others......all heros one day and dogs after they decide to look for a better environment for success....most occasions it has worked out for their benefit....
The way i see it....lyon walked for a reason...
He is an outstanding coach which will improve any team he joins
Feel free not to post then if you feel we are all so 'gullible' and 'vacuous'. Seriously, you need to take your meds. You certainly have some 'issues' come the afternoon.barks4eva wrote:BigMart wrote:A lot of about turns........
This must mean i am 'allowed' to critisise Ross now.......and not get ridiculed for being a poor supporter...
Landscape has changed....but lyon today is still lyon a week ago.....,
I remember posting 8 weeks ago....he will make a cold, unemotional business decision......because it was the reason he was such a great coach....he didnt allow emotions or opinions to intefere with decision making.....he did so
Seems we have a lot of fickle people, who change their mind on a persons character after they make a career decision that doesn't suit them.....
Ball, Hall, lyon and umpteen others......all heros one day and dogs after they decide to look for a better environment for success....most occasions it has worked out for their benefit....
The way i see it....lyon walked for a reason...
He is an outstanding coach which will improve any team he joins
AGREE
Weird isn't it how all the apologists jump at shadows, follow like lemmings and have zero ability to think laterally
SHEEP
How the board are seemingly blameless in all of this shows how gullible and vacuous most people are on this site!
unfortunately memory is short, and wehn freo start wining games and make the finals all wilol be forgiven by the journos', fans, supporters!mad saint guy wrote:I love that Lyon uses Leigh Matthews as an example to justify his actions with Leigh then coming out and bagging Lyon. I reckon Ross has got two friends left in footy, and they were the sleazy insecure businessmen sitting next to him at the press conference.
