Do people still think Ball's money hungry ...

noreason41 · Fri 16 Sep 2011 5:12am

in regards to Ball's Departure from the Saints in acrimonious circumstances- Or has the general consensus changed to: it was Ross Lyon's fault for not keeping him on the list?

plugger66 · Post: # 1140997Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:49am

Dont get the question and then the OP.

matrix · Post: # 1141035Post **matrix** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:24am

ffs
gotta agree with plugg

Rosco · Post: # 1141055Post **Rosco** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:33am

the answer is yes.

plugger66 · Post: # 1141083Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:42am

Rosco wrote:the answer is yes.

Whats the question?

OneEyedSainter77 · Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:43am

Rosco wrote:the answer is yes.

Actually the answer is 27.

It doesn't matter what the question is.

No seriously, what is the question?

Rosco · Post: # 1141092Post **Rosco** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:47am

plugger66 wrote:
Rosco wrote:the answer is yes.
Whats the question?

the answer to your question is no.

Dr Spaceman · Fri 16 Sep 2011 10:58am

Apparently there was an earthquake in California.

All San Andreas Fault of course.

Hurricane · Fri 16 Sep 2011 11:20am

OneEyedSainter77 wrote:
Rosco wrote:the answer is yes.
Actually the answer is 27.

It doesn't matter what the question is.

No seriously, what is the question?

Its actually Sri Lanka, forgot to carry the beef

BANG BANG

Saint Bev · Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:35pm

Ball left for the money, like Lyon.

Ice Wolf · Post: # 1141500Post **Ice Wolf** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:46pm

What Lyon has done doesn't excuse Ball's behaviour, for all we know it's where Lyon got the idea from.

In my opinion Ball is still a prick and a traitor and now so is Ross.

plugger66 · Post: # 1141535Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:00pm

Saint Bev wrote:Ball left for the money, like Lyon.

Lyon left for money and maybe a better chance for a flag. Ball left because he couldnt get a game and just so happened to get better money and a flag.

savatage · Post: # 1141541Post **savatage** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:01pm

I still think he's an average footballer - the same as I thought when he played for St.Kilda towards his latter years & the same I think today when I see him play for Collingwood. Kind of sick of reading about Luke Ball on a St.Kilda forum. About time some of you just get over it.

plugger66 · Post: # 1141549Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:03pm

savatage wrote:I still think he's an average footballer - the same as I thought when he played for St.Kilda towards his latter years & the same I think today when I see him play for Collingwood. Kind of sick of reading about Luke Ball on a St.Kilda forum. About time some of you just get over it.

Probably 2 top 5 in the B&F in a side that most likely will win 2 flags suggests he is much better than that.

saintbrat · Post: # 1141570Post **saintbrat** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:09pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:Apparently there was an earthquake in California.

All San Andreas Fault of course.

I thought the earth quake was at seaford...

savatage · Post: # 1141610Post **savatage** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:20pm

plugger66 wrote:
savatage wrote:I still think he's an average footballer - the same as I thought when he played for St.Kilda towards his latter years & the same I think today when I see him play for Collingwood. Kind of sick of reading about Luke Ball on a St.Kilda forum. About time some of you just get over it.
Probably 2 top 5 in the B&F in a side that most likely will win 2 flags suggests he is much better than that.

Right club at the right time - I'm not a big fan, sorry if it disappoints you.

mordi · Post: # 1141611Post **mordi** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:20pm

Bally was a great saints player (dont ever forget that). Had a lull when injured with OP , but seems to have his mojo back at Pies.

Re the money - word from a former Pres to me was that Thommos back ended contract structures left Bally with no room to move. ie, if he stayed he would be taking a massive hair cut.

savatage · Post: # 1141615Post **savatage** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:21pm

mordi wrote:Bally was a great saints player

At stages & kind of a liability at others. Certainly not worth the money he is on. Was dropped with good reason as his form was really poor with us in his last season.

St Lenny · Post: # 1141616Post **St Lenny** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:22pm

mordi wrote:Bally was a great saints player (dont ever forget that). Had a lull when injured with OP , but seems to have his mojo back at Pies.

Re the money - word from a former Pres to me was that Thommos back ended contract structures left Bally with no room to move. ie, if he stayed he would be taking a massive hair cut.

Other senior players took a pay cut and he wouldnt, dont forget that.

plugger66 · Post: # 1141618Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:23pm

St Lenny wrote:
mordi wrote:Bally was a great saints player (dont ever forget that). Had a lull when injured with OP , but seems to have his mojo back at Pies.

Re the money - word from a former Pres to me was that Thommos back ended contract structures left Bally with no room to move. ie, if he stayed he would be taking a massive hair cut.
Other senior players took a pay cut and he wouldnt, dont forget that.

That is a new story.

sainterinsydney · Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:23pm

Ball should have been given more time during the 2009 GF, and then it was Lyon, also, that forced Ball out. I'm glad Lyon is gone.

matrix · Post: # 1141622Post **matrix** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:24pm

plugger66 wrote:
St Lenny wrote:
mordi wrote:Bally was a great saints player (dont ever forget that). Had a lull when injured with OP , but seems to have his mojo back at Pies.

Re the money - word from a former Pres to me was that Thommos back ended contract structures left Bally with no room to move. ie, if he stayed he would be taking a massive hair cut.
Other senior players took a pay cut and he wouldnt, dont forget that.
That is a new story.

not really

been said plenty of times since he left

plugger66 · Post: # 1141632Post **plugger66** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:28pm

matrix wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
St Lenny wrote:
mordi wrote:Bally was a great saints player (dont ever forget that). Had a lull when injured with OP , but seems to have his mojo back at Pies.

Re the money - word from a former Pres to me was that Thommos back ended contract structures left Bally with no room to move. ie, if he stayed he would be taking a massive hair cut.
Other senior players took a pay cut and he wouldnt, dont forget that.
That is a new story.
not really

been said plenty of times since he left

Who and why did the players need to take a pay cut. Cannot remember any of that.

mordi · Post: # 1141642Post **mordi** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:32pm

Please ..lets not rewrite history... he was one of our young guns, and a top performer 04-07

Ball was a Rising Star nominee in his debut season of 2003.

2004 seasonBall played in St Kildaâ€™s 2004 Wizard Home Loans Cup winning side, the club's second pre-season cup win.[2]

2004 was a big year for Ball, coming second in St Kilda's Trevor Barker Award for the club's best and fairest player.

2005 season In 2005 Ball won the Trevor Barker Award for St Kilda's best and fairest player, tying with Steven Baker.

Ball was also recognised for his excellent season with selection in the 2005 All-Australian Team as a midfield player, his first All-Australian Team award.

When Nick Riewoldt was injured in the opening round of the 2005 season (and consequently missed the next five weeks), Ball was appointed as acting captain.

2006 season In 2006 Ball was announced as the St Kilda captain, succeeding Nick Riewoldt under the Saints' then rotational captaincy policy. Early in the season groin problems kept the young captain from performing at his best, but he was cleared in mid-June of having Osteitis pubis from which many media outlets had claimed he was suffering. Ball's second half of the season saw improvement in his game.

2007 season In 2007 Ball was co-captain along with Lenny Hayes and Riewoldt. He played a total of 18 games of the home and away season - picking up 345 disposals, 5 goals and 91 tackles. Although well down on his 2005 form, he played a valuable role in the team and solidified his reputation as a "hard-nut" and core member of St Kilda's midfield.

mordi · Post: # 1141646Post **mordi** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:33pm

plugger66 wrote:
matrix wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
St Lenny wrote:
mordi wrote:Bally was a great saints player (dont ever forget that). Had a lull when injured with OP , but seems to have his mojo back at Pies.

Re the money - word from a former Pres to me was that Thommos back ended contract structures left Bally with no room to move. ie, if he stayed he would be taking a massive hair cut.
Other senior players took a pay cut and he wouldnt, dont forget that.
That is a new story.
not really

been said plenty of times since he left
Who and why did the players need to take a pay cut. Cannot remember any of that.

The Thommo contracts....dont know about the others....but apparently Bally's drop was not sustainable.

Do people still think Ball's money hungry ...

Was it Ball's fault or Lyon's fault?

Do people still think Ball's money hungry ...