Legal Ramifications

bergholt · Post: # 1140987Post **bergholt** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 8:44am

BackFromUSA wrote:agreed that the inducing contract breach will probably normally get settled ... probably for $200,000 to $300,000 ...

i reckon freo would be able to form a pretty strong case that lyon made the initial approach to them. given that, i'm not sure how much we'd have against them.

tweedaletomanning · Fri 16 Sep 2011 9:29am

Eastern wrote:
Sainterman wrote:Who does the legal work for the club?

I wonder how tight that contract is in the end.
Our Vice President, Ross Levin is one of the top Employment Law experts in the country. The problem is that he has been over-ruled by the Board before when he suggested we sue KD !!

He is as USELESS as tits on a Bull

Wouldn't he have overseen the initial contract, to make sure this sort of thing Couldn't Happen??

Seriously, he is like "war" good for absolutely Nothing!!

Harvey To Hayes · Fri 16 Sep 2011 11:31am

plugger66 wrote:That was a correct decision and not doing any legal stuff here would also be the correct decision.

Why? Why even bother having contracts at all if you aren't going to enforce your rights in the case of a breach? Let's all live in fairy land and do everything with a handshake, don't want anyone to be cross with us... Screw them, Lyon in particular - the get out clause was not there to be used to jump ship at any time for a better offer - he abused it and should pay the appropraite price, end of story.

degruch · Post: # 1141391Post **degruch** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 11:44am

noreason41 wrote:What about Lyon & The management company?

Does ESP Have any right to sue Lyon over the money they lost as they would have negotiated a contract for him?
Is he under contract with ESP? Or is he allowed to negotiate behind their back?

They have dumped him as a client, haven't they? Words to the effect of 'since he negotiated his own deal, he does not need our representation'.

matrix · Post: # 1141392Post **matrix** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 11:45am

yup
they dont represent him anymore
confirmed

Junction Oval · Fri 16 Sep 2011 11:47am

Initially, it sounds good to "get him," but then the practicalities set in :

a) The length of time involved would probably preclude us from appointing a new coach - very important.

b) Would be a very expensive exercise to run.

c) Enormous behind-the-scenes pressure would come from the AFL.

d) Constant Media coverage likely to unsettle Club Sponsors and acquisition of new ones.

Furphy · Post: # 1141409Post **Furphy** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 11:58am

I hear RL had an "out" clause in his contract, so we will get the same compensation for him as we got for Luke Ball.

markp · Post: # 1141432Post **markp** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:08pm

Siren-gate, whispers in the sky, Farmer and the Baker stitch-up.... alway freo, like a bad coin!... and always we do nothing.

degruch · Post: # 1141437Post **degruch** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:12pm

markp wrote:Siren-gate, whispers in the sky, Farmer and the Baker stitch-up.... alway freo, like a bad coin!... and always we do nothing.

We've done our best to help make them the biggest bunch of losers in AFL history (not VFL history, sadly), we can only continue to give them a helping hand.

I'd be interested to see if ESP have cause to pursue any compensation for breach of contract.

markp · Post: # 1141457Post **markp** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:25pm

Coaches association?... bringing the game into disrepute??

The more I think about it, the more unprofessional and unethical it seems.

degruch · Post: # 1141468Post **degruch** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:30pm

markp wrote:Coaches association?... bringing the game into disrepute??

The more I think about it, the more unprofessional and unethical it seems.

It is, without doubt, one of the dodgiest moves of all time. It'll be all but forgotten a game into next season though, I'm sure.

markp · Post: # 1141484Post **markp** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:37pm

degruch wrote:
markp wrote:Coaches association?... bringing the game into disrepute??

The more I think about it, the more unprofessional and unethical it seems.
It is, without doubt, one of the dodgiest moves of all time. It'll be all but forgotten a game into next season though, I'm sure.

Is $3.5 million for the first year (and a million a year thereafter) being reliably quoted?... add that to paying harvey out... gee I hope they choke on this.

matrix · Post: # 1141488Post **matrix** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:40pm

how many years? four of five?

degruch · Post: # 1141489Post **degruch** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:40pm

markp wrote:
degruch wrote:
markp wrote:Coaches association?... bringing the game into disrepute??

The more I think about it, the more unprofessional and unethical it seems.
It is, without doubt, one of the dodgiest moves of all time. It'll be all but forgotten a game into next season though, I'm sure.
Is $3.5 million for the first year (and a million a year thereafter) being reliably quoted?... add that to paying harvey out... gee I hope they choke on this.

Cripes...no idea if it's true, but EPS would be really pissed about missing a cut of that!

markp · Post: # 1141495Post **markp** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:44pm

matrix wrote:how many years? four of five?

5 years... $7.5 million in total was what I heard.

matrix · Post: # 1141512Post **matrix** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:52pm

greedy prick

degruch · Post: # 1141521Post **degruch** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:55pm

matrix wrote:greedy prick

I'm starting to lose the impression I had that his move was not entirely financially motivated...the same way a lost the impression he was a man of integrity in about 30 seconds this morning.

matrix · Post: # 1141532Post **matrix** » Fri 16 Sep 2011 12:59pm

uh huh
3.5 million straight up

gawn
didnt even confront the players
nice
so much for developing some special bond

all this oh the players will be right they are pros and will move on

i reckon a fair few of the leaders will be filthy!!!
but yes they will move on

Dr Spaceman · Fri 16 Sep 2011 1:01pm

matrix wrote:uh huh
3.5 million straight up

What a scully Ross is