Selection conundrums
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Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.
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.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.
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Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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A LOT OF THIS!!!![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
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You know it makes sense.plugger66 wrote:Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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A LOT OF THIS!!!![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
I know nothing and many can vouch for that. At least I know I know nothing where as some think they know something when they actaully know nothing. I have now know I have nothing more to say.degruch wrote:You know it makes sense.plugger66 wrote:Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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A LOT OF THIS!!!![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
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Are you saying you know something about nothing?plugger66 wrote:I know nothing and many can vouch for that. At least I know I know nothing where as some think they know something when they actaully know nothing. I have now know I have nothing more to say.degruch wrote:You know it makes sense.plugger66 wrote:Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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A LOT OF THIS!!!![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
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If you think you know nothing, that is at least one thing you know.plugger66 wrote:I know nothing and many can vouch for that. At least I know I know nothing where as some think they know something when they actaully know nothing. I have now know I have nothing more to say.degruch wrote:You know it makes sense.plugger66 wrote:Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
Your 21,882 post indicate that you think you know something.
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This Saturday's team, Melbourne's new coach and Tuesday night's lotto numbers?SaintPav wrote:If you think you know nothing, that is at least one thing you know.plugger66 wrote:I know nothing and many can vouch for that. At least I know I know nothing where as some think they know something when they actaully know nothing. I have now know I have nothing more to say.degruch wrote:You know it makes sense.plugger66 wrote:Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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A LOT OF THIS!!!![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
Your 21,882 post indicate that you think you know something.
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Do you mind sharing those lotto numbers??degruch wrote:This Saturday's team, Melbourne's new coach and Tuesday night's lotto numbers?SaintPav wrote:If you think you know nothing, that is at least one thing you know.plugger66 wrote:I know nothing and many can vouch for that. At least I know I know nothing where as some think they know something when they actaully know nothing. I have now know I have nothing more to say.degruch wrote:You know it makes sense.plugger66 wrote:Garbage.degruch wrote:.......a little of this.......FFSjoffaboy wrote:Whatever the selection we will have the usual suspects remarking "WTF is going on", others telling us "RL has no fkn idea", and still others bemoaning the fact "Tommy Walsh should have been playing since R8 and we have wasted another year".
When we eventiually lose, they will all be out saying "I told you so" and the offseason madness will begin, and continue to late February.![]()
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A LOT OF THIS!!!![]()
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...and plenty of flogs, muppets and cabbages.
Your 21,882 post indicate that you think you know something.
What doesn't kill us only makes us stronger.
Farren had no impact on the game what so ever.Hurricane wrote:I third this statement.Rosco wrote:^ thisSaint_Ash wrote:Give Mac a crack!
Sure he got beaten by Mumford a couple of weeks ago, but he along with many others in the team were sick. Remember that Kosi pulled out leaving Mac as the sole genuine ruckman. It was probably the choice of pulling out Kosi or Mac as we couldn't afford to go in without 1 genuine ruckman.
Personally, if I was making the call I would bring in Armo for Geary. Pretty much like for like.
Ray stays sub as when he came on the game swung our way. Farren is teh perfect 3rd quarter sub. Quick with goo ball use and can give us an edge when the game is in the balance or there to be won.
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Zac has had some poor games over the past few years but never been dropped… so there is no way Zac will be dropped now, he is our only full back, Ross absolutely loves him and Sydney have White, Spangher & Reid who will need minding.saintbob wrote:Big Mac and Gardi will stay in to combat Mumford, and I reckon Zac will lose his spot to Armo becuase of the lack of big forwards in the Sydney team.
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Zac's "poor games" have generally not come at Finals timedragit wrote:Zac has had some poor games over the past few years but never been dropped… so there is no way Zac will be dropped now, he is our only full back, Ross absolutely loves him and Sydney have White, Spangher & Reid who will need minding.saintbob wrote:Big Mac and Gardi will stay in to combat Mumford, and I reckon Zac will lose his spot to Armo becuase of the lack of big forwards in the Sydney team.
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7 touches says your right… It's funny because when Gears comes on for a half and has 13 touches and a few tackles people say he didn't do enough… Hope he holds his spot, I think he has the mettle for finals and we'll need contested animals against Sydney.PJ wrote:Farren had no impact on the game what so ever.Hurricane wrote:I third this statement.Rosco wrote:^ thisSaint_Ash wrote:Give Mac a crack!
Sure he got beaten by Mumford a couple of weeks ago, but he along with many others in the team were sick. Remember that Kosi pulled out leaving Mac as the sole genuine ruckman. It was probably the choice of pulling out Kosi or Mac as we couldn't afford to go in without 1 genuine ruckman.
Personally, if I was making the call I would bring in Armo for Geary. Pretty much like for like.
Ray stays sub as when he came on the game swung our way. Farren is teh perfect 3rd quarter sub. Quick with goo ball use and can give us an edge when the game is in the balance or there to be won.
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If Mac and Kosi can adequately deal with Nic Nat and Cox, then surely Mumford is not insurmountable.
Dawson stays in, it would totally whack up our structure to pull him out, and he is slightly (very slightly) versatile if he really is being jobless in the back.
Dempster will surely be first choice in Goodes, and always would have been. Obviously we weren't going to use him on Goodes a couple of weeks ago because Goodes would have worked him out for the one that counts.
Armo in for Gardiner.
Blake or Ray as the sub.
Geary is required.
Dawson stays in, it would totally whack up our structure to pull him out, and he is slightly (very slightly) versatile if he really is being jobless in the back.
Dempster will surely be first choice in Goodes, and always would have been. Obviously we weren't going to use him on Goodes a couple of weeks ago because Goodes would have worked him out for the one that counts.
Armo in for Gardiner.
Blake or Ray as the sub.
Geary is required.
I was having a chat with a mate about team selection... Last week we felt a bit imbalanced, pretty heavy in defence... here's what I reakon would be best for team structure (taking "too many changes" out of the equation that is)
Gardiner, Gram and one tall defender out (blake, dawson or gilbert)
Ray in the main squat, armo and gamble in with some leg speed in the green vest!
Gardiner, Gram and one tall defender out (blake, dawson or gilbert)
Ray in the main squat, armo and gamble in with some leg speed in the green vest!
Yep.mad saint guy wrote:Gardiner came in, showed that he can still handle the pace and get a kick. That's all we really needed from him and now I think he's insurance if we progress through the finals and McEvoy goes down. Note that our forward line functioned much better in the second half when Gards was subbed off and we weren't trying to cram Roo, Kosi and one of Gards/McEvoy in there at all times.
Of course there's the argument that he could again ruck for 75% of the first 70 minutes of game time and then be subbed off to allow a fresh McEvoy to run Mumford ragged, but if we were to get an injury then we've got a lumbering dinosaur dead on his feet for the rest of the match.
I think we should play it safe and just bring Armo in for Gards. But if anyone else is dropped from the team it should be Gram, who was again woeful on Saturday night.
Apart from Gram, who I'm ok with being in the team.
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Yes, I'm sure the players and coaching staff are trawling through our speculative posts and pondering them all day while their knees go week and they collectively s*** themselves....Austinnn wrote:This is all playing into Sydney's hands; get ourselves too concerned with ruck, neglect other areas. Focus!
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SainterK wrote:Interesting to read Mumfords take on this, said Gardi is alot stronger than Ben...
So perhaps the thinking is along the right lines, if Mumford feels he can throw his weight around when it comes to Ben?
Shane Mumford
#41 Sydney Swans
Age: 25yr 2mth Games: 59 Born: July 5, 1986
Height: 199cm Weight: 105kg Position: Ruck
Ben McEvoy
#5 St Kilda Saints
Age: 22yr 1mth Games: 52 Born: July 11, 1989
Height: 200cm Weight: 98kg Position: Ruck
Michael S. Gardiner
#15 St Kilda Saints
Age: 32yr 2mth Games: 181 Born: July 5, 1979
Height: 199cm Weight: 105kg Position: Ruck
Not surprising.Ben's still aways off Mummy. Big difference in a 22 year old and a 25 year old strength wise considering also Ben's 7kg lighter,(not that these stats,off AFL website, are gospel).
Mummy might regret saying this in 2 years time though as Ben is still a couple of preseasons away from being close to reaching his full potential. Once he puts on that extra 5-10 kilos,and develops his core strength....Look out!
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