Milne = Finals Choker (help debunk)

mordi · Post: # 1131717Post **mordi** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:03pm

I have a clown ( Cats fan) in the office who goes on about Milney being a "choker" in finals.

As I said, he may not have played his best in finals , but that is long way from "choker".

Anyone got the stats of his finals work, versus regular season.

Please help debunk this....

PaytonPlace · Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:04pm

Just get some clips of his goals against the Cats last year in the finals!

God bless the king of the kids!

Becca

degruch · Post: # 1131721Post **degruch** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:06pm

Let Milney do the talking...he'll kick 5 against them when we play the Cats next, for the GF.

thequarry · Post: # 1131723Post **thequarry** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:07pm

He was actually our leading goalkicker in last year's finals series.

Thinline · Post: # 1131724Post **Thinline** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:08pm

Just hit the fucker in the mouth with a stapler or something.

Some wankers just ask for it.

SaintPav · Post: # 1131731Post **SaintPav** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:15pm

mordi wrote:I have a clown ( Cats fan) in the office who goes on about Milney being a "choker" in finals.

As I said, he may not have played his best in finals , but that is long way from "choker".

Anyone got the stats of his finals work, versus regular season.

Please help debunk this....

I wouldn't even defend it. He's quite played well in three finals including the last final we played them in.

You should shoot back and ask him about the usless receiver Matthew Coces. Now he's a big game choker.

Not to mention Josh "I can hear your footsteps" Hunt. or the dirtly head ducker called Josh Smellwood.

spert · Post: # 1131735Post **spert** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:17pm

Still yet to do the job in the most important game- the GF, so lets hope he gets another crack this year or next.

SaintPav · Post: # 1131738Post **SaintPav** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:18pm

spert wrote:Still yet to do the job in the most important game- the GF, so lets hope he gets another crack this year or next.

what about the drawn GF last year?

spert · Post: # 1131744Post **spert** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:24pm

Didn't set the world on fire, and flopped in 09 and the replay when the forward line went AWOL

Beno88 · Post: # 1131753Post **Beno88** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:32pm

He kicked the most goals of anyone across both Grand Final's last year.

SaintPav · Post: # 1131760Post **SaintPav** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:36pm

spert wrote:Didn't set the world on fire, and flopped in 09 and the replay when the forward line went AWOL

What do you expect exactly in a game that is tied at 10 goals each? I thought he played ok. He kicked two goals and beat Harry O IMO.

SaintPav · Post: # 1131763Post **SaintPav** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:38pm

Beno88 wrote:He kicked the most goals of anyone across both Grand Final's last year.

Some people just aren't interested in facts Beno.

degruch · Post: # 1131765Post **degruch** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 1:41pm

SaintPav wrote:
spert wrote:Didn't set the world on fire, and flopped in 09 and the replay when the forward line went AWOL
What do you expect exactly in a game that is tied at 10 goals each? I thought he played ok. He kicked two goals and beat Harry O IMO.

...and EVERYONE except BJ went missing for the replay. Watching Harry O throwing grass up in the air like Matthew Lloyd having a shot at goal made me laugh, watching him actually kick it made me vommit bile. But let's not go there.

Agree, Milne wasn't a standout absentee at all last year.

saintspremiers · Mon 05 Sep 2011 2:30pm

if they MRP cite him it's because they need Sydney to win with GWS coming in next year and crowds dropping.

plugger66 · Post: # 1131863Post **plugger66** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 3:15pm

saintspremiers wrote:if they MRP cite him it's because they need Sydney to win with GWS coming in next year and crowds dropping.

Yep that would be it makes sense. On the OP only people on here can question if Milney chokes in finals.

mordi · Post: # 1131872Post **mordi** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 3:22pm

thanks for the comments guys....might just hit him in the head with stapler.

degruch · Post: # 1131873Post **degruch** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 3:24pm

mordi wrote:thanks for the comments guys....might just hit him in the head with stapler.

The traditional methods are usually the best option.

kosifantutti23 · Mon 05 Sep 2011 3:28pm

thequarry wrote:He was actually our leading goalkicker in last year's finals series.

He was the league's leading goalkicker in the finals. Daylight was second.

perfectionist · Mon 05 Sep 2011 3:46pm

His average in all games is 2.1, the best for any small forward who has played 200 games in the history of VFL/AFL.

His average in finals is 1.6, which is certainly down on his overall average. However, remember that in finals he is up against the best teams. Every player who has played more than 100 games, and more than 10 finals, has a worse average in finals than overall. For instance, a player has kicked more than ten goals in a game 123 times (including Stephen once) but no-one has kicked 10 in a grand final. The only small forwards with more goals in finals than Stephen are Paul Chapman and Leigh Matthews. Leaving aside one of the three best players ever, if the argument is that Paul Chapman is a better player than Stephen, including in finals, then I would have to agree. So far, Paul Chapman and Matthew Scarlett have delivered Geelong two flags. But coming second to Paul Chapman is hardly cause for being described as a "choker". In fact, the evidence suggests otherwise. I would love for Stephen to kick three in each final from here, something no other small forward has, on average, achieved in finals. Alas, it is likely that we will need more than three from him if we are to progress much further than week 2.

kosifantutti23 · Mon 05 Sep 2011 3:58pm

perfectionist wrote:His average in all games is 2.1, the best for any small forward who has played 200 games in the history of VFL/AFL.

I'm pretty sure Leigh Matthews played more than 200 games

perfectionist · Mon 05 Sep 2011 4:39pm

kosifantutti23 wrote:
perfectionist wrote:His average in all games is 2.1, the best for any small forward who has played 200 games in the history of VFL/AFL.

I'm pretty sure Leigh Matthews played more than 200 games

He did, 332 in fact, but not all as a small forward. Apart from his time as a rover, for about four years, he was Hawthorn's full forward. His average overall was 2.8 goals per game, while his average in finals was 2.5, just another player with a finals average less than his career average. If we are going to bag Stephen because he isn't as good as Leigh then it is getting a little silly. As I mentioned, Leigh is one of the best three ever, and as good as Stephen is, he is simply not in that category.

SaintPav · Post: # 1131966Post **SaintPav** » Mon 05 Sep 2011 4:59pm

perfectionist wrote:
kosifantutti23 wrote:
perfectionist wrote:His average in all games is 2.1, the best for any small forward who has played 200 games in the history of VFL/AFL.

I'm pretty sure Leigh Matthews played more than 200 games
He did, 332 in fact, but not all as a small forward. Apart from his time as a rover, for about four years, he was Hawthorn's full forward. His average overall was 2.8 goals per game, while his average in finals was 2.5, just another player with a finals average less than his career average. If we are going to bag Stephen because he isn't as good as Leigh then it is getting a little silly. As I mentioned, Leigh is one of the best three ever, and as good as Stephen is, he is simply not in that category.

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