What are things that are so shite with the AFL at the moment. Certainly the game isnt. Probably going as well as it ever has part from lop sided results lately. More how it is played IMO.Leo.J wrote:What did the medical report say? MRP is very inconsistent... The problem is that Zac's previous record contributed to this decision, and from memory they were just as random, and unjust. The inconsitency compounds. The system is shite, like so much in the AFL atm.
Why only we get the rough end of the pineapple?
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Why is the medical report irrelevant in this case? It's been used to determine force in other cases all year. Why is this any different?Sobraz wrote:Has nothing to do with anything in this case, and rightly so...Leo.J wrote:What did the medical report say?
What he did was silly and illegal and he got his fair whack, medical report or not, free kick or not...
I understand that some on here think Roo got unfairly outed due to the medical report (which I dont think is the case), and if this were the case we are lucky he only got away with missing 1 week, cos the Crows player is now out for the rest of the year with a broken jaw...
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It is used to determine the impact and that is why he got low impact. Dont confuse not enough force and a medical report to decide the impact once a charge has been laid. There have been plenty of suspensions because of low impact this year. Surely that isnt hard to understand.Leo.J wrote:Why is the medical report irrelevant in this case? It's been used to determine force in other cases all year. Why is this any different?Sobraz wrote:Has nothing to do with anything in this case, and rightly so...Leo.J wrote:What did the medical report say?
What he did was silly and illegal and he got his fair whack, medical report or not, free kick or not...
I understand that some on here think Roo got unfairly outed due to the medical report (which I dont think is the case), and if this were the case we are lucky he only got away with missing 1 week, cos the Crows player is now out for the rest of the year with a broken jaw...
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Chapmans was a nothing at all and Brown made a much better attempt to at least try and punch the ball than Zac. Cant compare those 2. Zac deserved what he got. He has to be smarter than that if possible. Not sure it is though.Leo.J wrote:How do Chappy and Brown not get sighted then? There was no doubt they made intentional contact with low impact?
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Dunn clearly hit Chapman with a punch to the tummy that seemed far more excessive than Gehrig's 2 week love tap to Cloke.plugger66 wrote:Chapmans was a nothing at all and Brown made a much better attempt to at least try and punch the ball than Zac. Cant compare those 2. Zac deserved what he got. He has to be smarter than that if possible. Not sure it is though.Leo.J wrote:How do Chappy and Brown not get sighted then? There was no doubt they made intentional contact with low impact?
Baker got weeks for an 'attempted strike' which I assume no longer exists in this MRP era because it obviously doesn't have the force required to constitute a 'strike'.
Is that correct plugger - no more reports for attempted striking?
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Zac was probably closer to hitting the ball than Campbell was.plugger66 wrote:Chapmans was a nothing at all and Brown made a much better attempt to at least try and punch the ball than Zac. Cant compare those 2. Zac deserved what he got. He has to be smarter than that if possible. Not sure it is though.Leo.J wrote:How do Chappy and Brown not get sighted then? There was no doubt they made intentional contact with low impact?
In reality, neither should have gone as there was clearly not enough force in either one to constitute a strike. If anything Brown took more of a swing at Kosi than Zac did at Fraser.
The major thing that is wrong with the current system is there is not enough disparity between negligent and intentional conduct.
How Ottens and Riewoldt wound up with the same penalty beggars belief. Intentional conduct should not have any reduction for an early plea applied. If a player deliberately goes out to cause illegal harm to a player then they either accept the penalty as is or fight it. Record should, however, count to loading (good and bad)
Negligent conduct should attract a reduced loading.
The 1, 2, 3 weighting system is not broad enough. Maybe 1, 2, 4 or 1/2 , 2, 4 would be more appropriate.
The AFL should use the Riewoldt and Ottens example to tweak the system for next season.
In reality Roo should have received a reprimand and Ottens two weeks.
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There isnt many for attempted striking but there was one a couple of years back. Cant remember the players name. Gehrig wouldnt have gone now but bring it up anyway just to show we get the raw end of the deal. Dont worry that every other footy forum thinks the same of their club. What any of this has to do with what Zac did I escapes me. Maybe it is just our club being screwed again.Mr Magic wrote:Dunn clearly hit Chapman with a punch to the tummy that seemed far more excessive than Gehrig's 2 week love tap to Cloke.plugger66 wrote:Chapmans was a nothing at all and Brown made a much better attempt to at least try and punch the ball than Zac. Cant compare those 2. Zac deserved what he got. He has to be smarter than that if possible. Not sure it is though.Leo.J wrote:How do Chappy and Brown not get sighted then? There was no doubt they made intentional contact with low impact?
Baker got weeks for an 'attempted strike' which I assume no longer exists in this MRP era because it obviously doesn't have the force required to constitute a 'strike'.
Is that correct plugger - no more reports for attempted striking?
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I agree Sainternist, but why the others when do the same like our players get away with it.Sainternist wrote:I'm actually relieved he got only 1 week and not 3 weeks.
I say we take this one on the chin and look forward to facing Freo.
Brown & Roberton did excatly what Zac did & got away, now Brown has got no clean record but still got away.
Brad Ottens did some big hit behind play & gets only a week, Roey hit Symes (due to his size difference) & with a clean record got rubbed out for a week.
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Brown was Kosi's arms length away from the ball... If you believe that he was trying to spoil the ball, you are most probably on medication.
While I thought Zac's was a bad attempt to spoil, his fist only missed the ball bya few inches, as it was his elbow that hit Fraser's head.
Fraser didn't appear to be injured, Kosi appeared to be more shaken by the punch to the face he recieved.
I'm not suprised Zac went, but again the inconsistencies of the MRP is almost unbelievable.
The reason it's not unbelievable is that it is run by the AFL.
And again I'm not suprised that Plugger the umpire is agreeing with the AFL.
While I thought Zac's was a bad attempt to spoil, his fist only missed the ball bya few inches, as it was his elbow that hit Fraser's head.
Fraser didn't appear to be injured, Kosi appeared to be more shaken by the punch to the face he recieved.
I'm not suprised Zac went, but again the inconsistencies of the MRP is almost unbelievable.
The reason it's not unbelievable is that it is run by the AFL.
And again I'm not suprised that Plugger the umpire is agreeing with the AFL.
What has an umpire got to do with MRP. Still havent seen all your other faults of the AFL. Pretty lucky you dont follow Soccer, Basketball, NRL or Rugby in Australia. We are just unlucky or picked ont. It is obvious. No other club would think they get picked on. Talking of medication, have you had your today as you need to calm down.Leo.J wrote:Brown was Kosi's arms length away from the ball... If you believe that he was trying to spoil the ball, you are most probably on medication.
While I thought Zac's was a bad attempt to spoil, his fist only missed the ball bya few inches, as it was his elbow that hit Fraser's head.
Fraser didn't appear to be injured, Kosi appeared to be more shaken by the punch to the face he recieved.
I'm not suprised Zac went, but again the inconsistencies of the MRP is almost unbelievable.
The reason it's not unbelievable is that it is run by the AFL.
And again I'm not suprised that Plugger the umpire is agreeing with the AFL.
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The umpire thing makes sense as you support the establishment in every discussion.plugger66 wrote:What has an umpire got to do with MRP. Still havent seen all your other faults of the AFL. Pretty lucky you dont follow Soccer, Basketball, NRL or Rugby in Australia. We are just unlucky or picked ont. It is obvious. No other club would think they get picked on. Talking of medication, have you had your today as you need to calm down.Leo.J wrote:Brown was Kosi's arms length away from the ball... If you believe that he was trying to spoil the ball, you are most probably on medication.
While I thought Zac's was a bad attempt to spoil, his fist only missed the ball bya few inches, as it was his elbow that hit Fraser's head.
Fraser didn't appear to be injured, Kosi appeared to be more shaken by the punch to the face he recieved.
I'm not suprised Zac went, but again the inconsistencies of the MRP is almost unbelievable.
The reason it's not unbelievable is that it is run by the AFL.
And again I'm not suprised that Plugger the umpire is agreeing with the AFL.
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I had started this topic last week but had to write more today after seeing the match review panels report.
McPhee getting one week & Adam Goodes not even getting a reprimand really sucks.
This puts more to believe that we are really singled out here, watch out next few weeks we will cop more suspension if we even touch any opponents.
Sorry guys had to vent my furstration hence thought of writing something.
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McPhee getting one week & Adam Goodes not even getting a reprimand really sucks.
This puts more to believe that we are really singled out here, watch out next few weeks we will cop more suspension if we even touch any opponents.
Sorry guys had to vent my furstration hence thought of writing something.
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If Goodes went for what he did the system would really be stuffed.mohannair wrote:I had started this topic last week but had to write more today after seeing the match review panels report.
McPhee getting one week & Adam Goodes not even getting a reprimand really sucks.
This puts more to believe that we are really singled out here, watch out next few weeks we will cop more suspension if we even touch any opponents.
Sorry guys had to vent my furstration hence thought of writing something.
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Plugger ,Goodes had 66 carryover points so should have got atleast a week. (my opinion)plugger66 wrote:If Goodes went for what he did the system would really be stuffed.mohannair wrote:I had started this topic last week but had to write more today after seeing the match review panels report.
McPhee getting one week & Adam Goodes not even getting a reprimand really sucks.
This puts more to believe that we are really singled out here, watch out next few weeks we will cop more suspension if we even touch any opponents.
Sorry guys had to vent my furstration hence thought of writing something.
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What for? Hitting a guy in the upper chest. When has that been a problem?mohannair wrote:Plugger ,Goodes had 66 carryover points so should have got atleast a week. (my opinion)plugger66 wrote:If Goodes went for what he did the system would really be stuffed.mohannair wrote:I had started this topic last week but had to write more today after seeing the match review panels report.
McPhee getting one week & Adam Goodes not even getting a reprimand really sucks.
This puts more to believe that we are really singled out here, watch out next few weeks we will cop more suspension if we even touch any opponents.
Sorry guys had to vent my furstration hence thought of writing something.
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Sorry Plugger may be I did not see it correctly. Do you agree that McPhee should have got more than a week even Robbo twitted that he was surprised that he got only a week.plugger66 wrote:What for? Hitting a guy in the upper chest. When has that been a problem?mohannair wrote:Plugger ,Goodes had 66 carryover points so should have got atleast a week. (my opinion)plugger66 wrote:If Goodes went for what he did the system would really be stuffed.mohannair wrote:I had started this topic last week but had to write more today after seeing the match review panels report.
McPhee getting one week & Adam Goodes not even getting a reprimand really sucks.
This puts more to believe that we are really singled out here, watch out next few weeks we will cop more suspension if we even touch any opponents.
Sorry guys had to vent my furstration hence thought of writing something.
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