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Post: # 1112322Post matrix »

if tommy goes home then good luck to him
but id be disappointed if the reasoning was he felt he didt get a fair crack at the seniors.

i honestly thought he wouldve came in for the crows or gc game :?


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Post: # 1112341Post Dr Spaceman »

matrix wrote:if tommy goes home then good luck to him
but id be disappointed if the reasoning was he felt he didt get a fair crack at the seniors.

i honestly thought he wouldve came in for the crows or gc game :?
He may go home because he's homesick.

He may go home because he evaluates his progress and doesn't believe he can make it.

But I doubt he'd go home just because he didn't get a senior game in 2011.


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Post: # 1112346Post Old Mate »

Throw the kitchen sink at recruiting Dangerfield - Now that Craig is gone he looks to want out and return to Victoria.

Adelaide desperately want Jaegar O'Meara from the mini draft.

Gilbert to GWS > O'Meara to Crows > Dangerfield to Saints

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Post: # 1112347Post bigcarl »

Old Mate wrote:Throw the kitchen sink at recruiting Dangerfield - Now that Craig is gone he looks to want out.
Love to have Dangerfield.


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1 GoldCoast
2 Freo
3 Syd
4 Nth
5 Elimination Final
6 2nd semi final

yeah six to go sounds about right. lets hope its 8. or better yet, 9!
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3 Collingwood
4 Syd
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7 Qualifying final
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Post: # 1112353Post Old Mate »

bigcarl wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Throw the kitchen sink at recruiting Dangerfield - Now that Craig is gone he looks to want out.
Love to have Dangerfield.
The Cats look to be in the box seat, and that's even if he goes. It was be unreal if we got him though!


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Post: # 1112386Post Rosco »

Old Mate wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Throw the kitchen sink at recruiting Dangerfield - Now that Craig is gone he looks to want out.
Love to have Dangerfield.
The Cats look to be in the box seat, and that's even if he goes. It was be unreal if we got him though!
bloody cats, just what we need - them getting better.

Old Mate above mentioned Gilbert to GWS > O'Meara to Crows > Dangerfield to Saints - anyone think this is a chance to happen? i'd be happy with it.


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Post: # 1112389Post defacto »

retire
- gardiner
- baker
- blake

delist
- cahill
- mcqualter
- heyne
- gram

promote from rookie list
- walsh
- archer

we'll probably lose one of the following to another club (GWS)
- gilbert
- armitage
- dawson
- steven
- ray


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Post: # 1112392Post plugger66 »

defacto wrote:retire
- gardiner
- baker
- blake

delist
- cahill
- mcqualter
- heyne
- gram

promote from rookie list
- walsh
- archer

we'll probably lose one of the following to another club (GWS)
- gilbert
- armitage
- dawson
- steven
- ray
So you would delist Gram and promote Archer. Can I possibly ask why. Just because Archer is young doesnt mean he deserves a spot. If anything he should be delisted even from the rookie list.


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Post: # 1112402Post defacto »

in regards to gram we have an over abundance of defenders. were also stocking on midfielders. last year we drafted 3 new first year midfielders in cripps, crocker and ledger. i imagine we will be drafting more midfielders in the up coming draft.

grams effort and professionalism has been woeful. he's 28 next year and is well past his best.

archer needs to be promoted to give us another ruck/forward option. he played well earlier in the year and should be rewarded. if blake and gardiner retire our ruck options on the senior list will be:
- mcevoy
- kozi
- stanley

if you dont want to promote archer then maybe look at curren or recruiting another ready made midfielder. the main thing is gram has to go.


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Post: # 1112410Post ThePunter »

The problem with collecting ruck talent is you can't really go out and get a ruckman if that is all he can do, unless you are going to play them as the number 1 ruckman.

McEvoy can pinch-hit forward, and this is very useful, but he is the number one ruckman of the future with Stanley being the ruckman who plays somewhere else. This pretty much rules out targetting a Bellchambers or McIntosh in my opinion, but makes someone like Mitch Clark very attractive.

It also makes the decision to delist Adam Pattison pretty perplexing. Certainly could have gotten another year out of him.


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defacto wrote:in regards to gram we have an over abundance of defenders. were also stocking on midfielders. last year we drafted 3 new first year midfielders in cripps, crocker and ledger. i imagine we will be drafting more midfielders in the up coming draft.

grams effort and professionalism has been woeful. he's 28 next year and is well past his best.

archer needs to be promoted to give us another ruck/forward option. he played well earlier in the year and should be rewarded. if blake and gardiner retire our ruck options on the senior list will be:
- mcevoy
- kozi
- stanley

if you dont want to promote archer then maybe look at curren or recruiting another ready made midfielder. the main thing is gram has to go.
Firstly you can never have enough mids or running players so Gram will not be delisted. Secondly Archer isnt and will never be a ruckman at AFL level. He isnt one at VFL level. Sorrry but opinions arent usually wrong but this one is.


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Post: # 1112422Post Zed »

St Chris wrote:I honestly think Walsh will go home. Just a hunch. It has been dissapointing that an opportunity at senior level hasn't come, and running into the finals, we wont be experimenting now. 2 years away from home have led to 1 and a half NAB cup games.
He must be considering going back home. He came here to play in the AFL and hasnt got a senior game yet. Best we could hope for is he agrees to stick it out for 1 more year and that he gets a crack at it early in the season. If he can get some senior games under his belt it all might just start to fall into place.


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Post: # 1112423Post goddardisgod »

Rosco wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Throw the kitchen sink at recruiting Dangerfield - Now that Craig is gone he looks to want out.
Love to have Dangerfield.
The Cats look to be in the box seat, and that's even if he goes. It was be unreal if we got him though!
bloody cats, just what we need - them getting better.

Old Mate above mentioned Gilbert to GWS > O'Meara to Crows > Dangerfield to Saints - anyone think this is a chance to happen? i'd be happy with it.

I really think he's a flashy, lazy HF. Do not want.


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goddardisgod wrote:
Rosco wrote:
Old Mate wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
Old Mate wrote:Throw the kitchen sink at recruiting Dangerfield - Now that Craig is gone he looks to want out.
Love to have Dangerfield.
The Cats look to be in the box seat, and that's even if he goes. It was be unreal if we got him though!
bloody cats, just what we need - them getting better.

Old Mate above mentioned Gilbert to GWS > O'Meara to Crows > Dangerfield to Saints - anyone think this is a chance to happen? i'd be happy with it.

I really think he's a flashy, lazy HF. Do not want.
You need to watch harder IMO, only danger of not becoming a champion would be that he is to hard on his body.


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Post: # 1112426Post Rosco »

isn't he only 21? lyon can change lazy, and i wouldn't mind a flashy HF


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Post: # 1112461Post borderbarry »

I would be surprised if Walsh was not following a set path, and that he will play one or two games this, be promoted at the end of the season.


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Post: # 1112462Post borderbarry »

My understanding is that each club has to turn over at least 3 players per season,which means they have to pick up 3 new players. If we are going to promote a rookie we need 4 vacancies on the list.


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Post: # 1112469Post Dr Spaceman »

borderbarry wrote:My understanding is that each club has to turn over at least 3 players per season,which means they have to pick up 3 new players. If we are going to promote a rookie we need 4 vacancies on the list.
To be precise, I think each club has to have at least 3 picks in the draft.


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Post: # 1112493Post Helen »

Con Gorozidis wrote:Assuming we turn over 6 players at years end.
Who do people think will go?

Gardi (retire)
Bakes (retire)
Heyne (in trouble)
McQualter (i have no idea what is contract says but could be in trouble)
Kosi (retire)


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Post: # 1112498Post bergholt »

defacto wrote:if you dont want to promote archer then maybe look at curren or recruiting another ready made midfielder. the main thing is gram has to go.
dude, you got the cart leading the horse. getting rid of any player only to replace with a worse player is a stupid move, in anyone's book. so gram would only be dumped if a better player could come in to replace him, or at least a player with a fair chance of being better. that's unlikely to be pick 85 in the draft, or a rookie.

and anyway, gram is decent. vendetta much?


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Post: # 1112519Post ThePunter »

You have to use three draft picks, but one of these three picks can be a rookie elevation.


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Post: # 1112610Post skeptic »

Retire
Gardiner
Baker

Delist
McQualter
Heyne

Trade
Gilbert

not sure Re Winmar, Cahill, Stanley, Johnson but I personally would keep all of them

Not sold on Gamble but has pbly done enough for a 2nd year

Promote Walsh


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Post: # 1112622Post Stillwaiting »

Dr Spaceman wrote:
borderbarry wrote:My understanding is that each club has to turn over at least 3 players per season,which means they have to pick up 3 new players. If we are going to promote a rookie we need 4 vacancies on the list.
To be precise, I think each club has to have at least 3 picks in the draft.
You have to have 3 draft picks, often clubs will use one of those forced picks to select a player they have delisted


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