Why Jeans Left St Kilda??
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Why Jeans Left St Kilda??
Clearly St Kilda had been in a bit of a rut, but does anyone know the exact circumstances of Yabby's departure in 1976? I wonder how both the Saints and Yabby would have fared had he stayed?
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remembering he had been there for more than `16 years
as he coached them for that long and oklayed before that
as he coached them for that long and oklayed before that
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Johnny Member wrote:I think he's more Saint, than Hawk.
The papers ahev been painting him as a Hawks man, but I've always had the impression that he was a Saints man at heart.
Anyone else feel that?
of course he was.....but still a hawk coach....
.everybody still loves lenny....and we always will
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Has mentored most recent coaches ( maybe not Blighty) but certainly Gt and RossSt Lenny wrote:Didnt he mentor Ross in his early days at the club?
I believe I read somewhere that Ross Just saw him recently,
but know that Ross saw him and Jack Barker regulalry.
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Some young people on this site won't know that the saints almost 'went under' in the '80s.
There were guys who'd retired and were still owed a few years' salary. Even Jeans was owed money..
There was eventually an agreement where all parties were paid something like 6 cents in the dollar.
Jeansy gave up money owed to him to help save the Saints.
As to why he left...he was over 40 and had been doing the job basically on his own for 16 years. Jeans was a policeman...coaches had day jobs back then!
There were guys who'd retired and were still owed a few years' salary. Even Jeans was owed money..
There was eventually an agreement where all parties were paid something like 6 cents in the dollar.
Jeansy gave up money owed to him to help save the Saints.
As to why he left...he was over 40 and had been doing the job basically on his own for 16 years. Jeans was a policeman...coaches had day jobs back then!
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Does anyone remember exactly what year Jeansy went to Hawthorn?
I dont know exactly what job Allan Jeans did in the Police force at the time, but something in special events or similar. he worked pretty close to Mick Millar who was either Chief Comissioner or Assistant Commissioner at the time. Mick was a pretty strong Hawks man I think, and may have influenced Jeansy.
I dont know exactly what job Allan Jeans did in the Police force at the time, but something in special events or similar. he worked pretty close to Mick Millar who was either Chief Comissioner or Assistant Commissioner at the time. Mick was a pretty strong Hawks man I think, and may have influenced Jeansy.
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not that I've seen yet But hasn't done his weekly pre game press conf yet.bigcarl wrote:Has Ross been interviewed about Jeansy? I'd like to read it if anyone's got a link.saintbrat wrote: I believe I read somewhere that Ross Just saw him recently.
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speaking of whichsaintbrat wrote:not that I've seen yet But hasn't done his weekly pre game press conf yet.bigcarl wrote:Has Ross been interviewed about Jeansy? I'd like to read it if anyone's got a link.saintbrat wrote: I believe I read somewhere that Ross Just saw him recently.
up next on SEN from weekly presser pre match.
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Yes. See:borderbarry wrote:Does anyone remember exactly what year Jeansy went to Hawthorn?...
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He left (mainly) because his time was up. I think only four other coaches have had more than 16 years as coach at the one club. Time was eventually called on those as well. I think a contributing reason was that an old problem resurfaced at the club - internal conflict. When at the Junction Oval, it was conflict between the Cricket Club, who owned the ground, and the Football Club, who were merely tenants. The move to Moorabbin solved that, but in the mid 70s, the conflict was between the Football Club and the Social Club. Supreme Court action was threatened. Allan Jeans had seen it all before. I guess after 16 years he decided to move on. Of course, there were the usual stupid idiot supporters (backed by some in the media) calling for a new coach as well.
The club then descended into debt, for two reasons. First, the club had to pay for the building of the stands. Second, our new zones turned out to be mainly duds, although we missed out on a few rather good players by a few streets. I think Leigh Matthews was one. So, we decided to buy from interstate. George Young and Garry Sidebottom were two who could actually play, but there were many others who could not.
In Allan Jeans' time at the club, there was one bounce that went the right way. We seem to have been repaying that bit of luck ever since.
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Lindsay Fox put in place a scheme of arrangement whereby those owed money got bugger all in the dollar.The other thing he did was paint the walls in the gym.I remember Tony Jewell saying Fox didn't have a clue, he couldn't understand why Jewell couldn't get them into the finals....I Love Peter Kiel wrote:Some young people on this site won't know that the saints almost 'went under' in the '80s.
There were guys who'd retired and were still owed a few years' salary. Even Jeans was owed money..
There was eventually an agreement where all parties were paid something like 6 cents in the dollar.
Jeansy gave up money owed to him to help save the Saints.
As to why he left...he was over 40 and had been doing the job basically on his own for 16 years. Jeans was a policeman...coaches had day jobs back then!
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Winmar did win a car for MOTY in 1992.....but didnt have to give it up...
Barks, i believe donated it....or so it was told...
Jeans left because he had been at Moorabbin for 16 years....two or three too many
He should have been poached in 1990 after hawthorn won 1989.....or dfinitely in 1992, when he went to richmond....sheldon did well in 1991, but prem coaches dont grow on trees...he had 4.
What would yabby have done with
Harvey, loewe, winmar, lockett, burke, grant, mcadam, rice, frawley, pekin, bowey, greig, fletcher, devonport, kickett, daniels, newport, morris, dwyer, shanahan, vidovic, allen
Barks, i believe donated it....or so it was told...
Jeans left because he had been at Moorabbin for 16 years....two or three too many
He should have been poached in 1990 after hawthorn won 1989.....or dfinitely in 1992, when he went to richmond....sheldon did well in 1991, but prem coaches dont grow on trees...he had 4.
What would yabby have done with
Harvey, loewe, winmar, lockett, burke, grant, mcadam, rice, frawley, pekin, bowey, greig, fletcher, devonport, kickett, daniels, newport, morris, dwyer, shanahan, vidovic, allen
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Didn't he donate it back to help cover legal costs in getting Doug Cox?Moorabbin Man wrote:I think that was actually Trevor Barker.gringo wrote:There was a rumour that when Winmar won a prize (car from memory) for mark of the year the club sold it and gave him an IOU. Don't know if it was true but we have come a long way
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BigMart wrote:Winmar did win a car for MOTY in 1992.....but didnt have to give it up...
Barks, i believe donated it....or so it was told...
Jeans left because he had been at Moorabbin for 16 years....two or three too many
He should have been poached in 1990 after hawthorn won 1989.....or dfinitely in 1992, when he went to richmond....sheldon did well in 1991, but prem coaches dont grow on trees...he had 4.
What would yabby have done with
Harvey, loewe, winmar, lockett, burke, grant, mcadam, rice, frawley, pekin, bowey, greig, fletcher, devonport, kickett, daniels, newport, morris, dwyer, shanahan, vidovic, allen
And pleeze don't forget Frankie Coghlan!