As far as I know the County Court is an OPEN Court, meaning that there is a public gallery. There will be heaps of media interest in this case so the public gallery will probably be FULL of media types. Not sure about streaming !!Spinner wrote:Can anyone watch the court case? Tried looking on the net hub had no luck.
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It will be a sad day when rape trials become public entertainment.Eastern wrote:As far as I know the County Court is an OPEN Court, meaning that there is a public gallery. There will be heaps of media interest in this case so the public gallery will probably be FULL of media types. Not sure about streaming !!Spinner wrote:Can anyone watch the court case? Tried looking on the net hub had no luck.
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So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.
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Anything is possible.joffaboy wrote:So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.![]()
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What happens if he's found not guilty and he then decides to sue us for prematurely 'curtaiiling his career'?
(I know we settled with him over his playing contract, but that is quite different to what I'm talking about)
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Not a lawyer, but I think he would have an actionable case, depends on the reasons given to him for cancelling his contract.Mr Magic wrote:Anything is possible.joffaboy wrote:So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.![]()
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What happens if he's found not guilty and he then decides to sue us for prematurely 'curtaiiling his career'?
(I know we settled with him over his playing contract, but that is quite different to what I'm talking about)
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The club pointed out (over & over) at the time that the termination of Lovetts contract had NOTHING to do with the incident that led to this case !!GrumpyOne wrote:Not a lawyer, but I think he would have an actionable case, depends on the reasons given to him for cancelling his contract.Mr Magic wrote:Anything is possible.joffaboy wrote:So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.![]()
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What happens if he's found not guilty and he then decides to sue us for prematurely 'curtaiiling his career'?
(I know we settled with him over his playing contract, but that is quite different to what I'm talking about)
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Didn't we supposedly sack him for not meeting the terms of his contract and then settle the matter out of court?GrumpyOne wrote:Not a lawyer, but I think he would have an actionable case, depends on the reasons given to him for cancelling his contract.Mr Magic wrote:Anything is possible.joffaboy wrote:So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.![]()
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What happens if he's found not guilty and he then decides to sue us for prematurely 'curtaiiling his career'?
(I know we settled with him over his playing contract, but that is quite different to what I'm talking about)
i don't think he can sue us now
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Good..... as long as there is sound evidence to that fact.Eastern wrote:The club pointed out (over & over) at the time that the termination of Lovetts contract had NOTHING to do with the incident that led to this case !!GrumpyOne wrote:Not a lawyer, but I think he would have an actionable case, depends on the reasons given to him for cancelling his contract.Mr Magic wrote:Anything is possible.joffaboy wrote:So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.![]()
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What happens if he's found not guilty and he then decides to sue us for prematurely 'curtaiiling his career'?
(I know we settled with him over his playing contract, but that is quite different to what I'm talking about)
Ross Levin??? handling the dismissal?
In good hands if so.
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They pointed out that GT wan't entitled to his holiday pay either - that didn't seem to work too well!Eastern wrote:The club pointed out (over & over) at the time that the termination of Lovetts contract had NOTHING to do with the incident that led to this case !!GrumpyOne wrote:Not a lawyer, but I think he would have an actionable case, depends on the reasons given to him for cancelling his contract.Mr Magic wrote:Anything is possible.joffaboy wrote:So does this mean that the AFl will take points off us again if Grace wins???Mr Magic wrote:Lovett is represented by a very good barrister -David Grace QC, who has handled many cases involving the AFL (including getting Freo the points in Tasmania), as well as many criminal cases.![]()
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What happens if he's found not guilty and he then decides to sue us for prematurely 'curtaiiling his career'?
(I know we settled with him over his playing contract, but that is quite different to what I'm talking about)
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Any court action is always capable of being lost.
The problem for the Club is that it ties up people on unproductive stuff and causes disruption to the daily business/routine.
Even the fact that half a dozen of our players ahve to 'front' court ove rteh next couple of weeks as witnesses is a major disruption for us.
I wonder if Jack Anthony will be called as a witness?
Not that he did anything wrong but he apparently was the person the girl telephoned and as such would certainly have evidence to give as to what she origianlly alleged.
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In his belief/mind he has done nothing wrong and it was concensual.
always has been a case of what you believe to be ' consent'
as is often the case the ' words used' will be of more discussion than the actual act.
always has been a case of what you believe to be ' consent'
as is often the case the ' words used' will be of more discussion than the actual act.
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How can you consent to anything when you are not even concious? She even allegedly woke up and asked him to stop. If thats not clear cut I dont know what issaintbrat wrote:In his belief/mind he has done nothing wrong and it was concensual.
always has been a case of what you believe to be ' consent'
as is often the case the ' words used' will be of more discussion than the actual act.
(Im not having a go here but the crime of rape makes me sick and boils my blood.)
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convicted rapists do more than boil my blood but surely we should wait until the legal process i completed.Hurricane wrote:How can you consent to anything when you are not even concious? She even allegedly woke up and asked him to stop. If thats not clear cut I dont know what issaintbrat wrote:In his belief/mind he has done nothing wrong and it was concensual.
always has been a case of what you believe to be ' consent'
as is often the case the ' words used' will be of more discussion than the actual act.
(Im not having a go here but the crime of rape makes me sick and boils my blood.)
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6092377290
seems to me that it's open and shut
obviously I don't really know, but I think the witness' testimony will be very damning
that being said it's he said she said
this artile doesn't read very well for AL though
seems to me that it's open and shut
obviously I don't really know, but I think the witness' testimony will be very damning
that being said it's he said she said
this artile doesn't read very well for AL though
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no inside knowledge just remember some of the evidence presented in the original case .... ( or as reported to have been and other contact between the players and club.)Cairnsman wrote:sounds like you have inside knowledge. Do you know something?saintbrat wrote:In his belief/mind he has done nothing wrong and it was concensual.
always has been a case of what you believe to be ' consent'
as is often the case the ' words used' will be of more discussion than the actual act.
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Presentation by the prosecution.skeptic wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6092377290
seems to me that it's open and shut
obviously I don't really know, but I think the witness' testimony will be very damning
that being said it's he said she said
this artile doesn't read very well for AL though
Not supposed to be in the accused favour.
Wait until cross-examination by the defence.
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