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Post: # 1099274Post Dan Warna »

<shrug> 20/20 hindsight is a speciality at st kilda :P :)


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They actually had a couple from the family playing with us back then.
Residentially bound Essendon supporters I believe?

The father's first cousin Mark Schulberg was a seconds player (KPP) who looked very likely to play in our seniors but broke his leg very badly and retired.

He went on to have a stellar career in the Amateurs.


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Post: # 1099295Post Dan Warna »

Mr Magic's powers in saints lore runs deep!

maybe you should have a title like Mr Magic...THE LOREKEEPER :P :)


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Post: # 1099298Post Mr Magic »

Dan Warna wrote:Mr Magic's powers in saints lore runs deep!

maybe you should have a title like Mr Magic...THE LOREKEEPER :P :)
More likely the Lorry Keeper!!!! :)

I just happen to know them (Schulberg much better than Jeff Goldstein)


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I think McEvoy is progressing beautifully.

I do, however, fear for his physical wellbeing.

He has shouldered a massive load for a young ruckman this year. That he's mostly shone is an absolute credit to him, but them's bones must be achin'...

And I agree with posters who suggest (more or less) that his performance was on par with Goldsteins. The hitout count was one thing, but McEvoy's marking power and back half poise more than made up for a few set shots that he should have lined up and had a crack at.

Will be a gun.


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He had career-high possessions (23) and marks (11) yesterday.


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Post: # 1099500Post stinger »

BigMart wrote:Goldstean was named their best player

Had the most 'whatever it is points' 130




I thought he played a great game....he will get two brownlow votes

mcevoy had the second most points after bj...


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The OtherThommo wrote:
BigMart wrote:Goldstean was named their best player

Had the most 'whatever it is points' 130


I thought he played a great game....he will get two brownlow votes
According to the HS Goldstein had 138 'whatever it is points'. McEvoy had 141. Goddard game high 161, Dal Santo 139.
HS Supercoach points are far more relevant and useful than Dreamteam...

Dreamteam is based purely on stat count alone (including hitouts), whereas supercoach ranking are far more complicated and accurate to a players performance...

So, McEvoy had the superior game...


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Post: # 1099505Post Furphy »

Watching McEvoy mark in a pack puts me in mind of Wayne Carey at his peak (on the field)


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Teflon wrote:
Legendary wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:
He's playing brilliantly around the ground but is consistently smashed in the hit-outs and the hit-outs to advantage.
Round 10 vs. Fremantle (Griffin). Lost hitouts 28-38.
Round 11 vs. Collingwood (Wood). Won hitouts 38-34.
Round 12 vs. Bulldogs (Hudson). Lost hitouts 20-22.
Round 13 vs. Geelong (Ottens). Won hitouts 37-26.
Round 15 vs. Kangaroos (Goldstein). Lost hitouts 45-25.

I'm sorry, but he is not constantly "smashed" in the hitouts. He has improved enormously in this area, and is breaking even or winning in most matches over the last 5-6 weeks.


In fact his result against Goldstein tonight was his worst all year, and yet I thought he was the more dominant ruckman on the ground.
Thats weird I did too. Looking at those stats Goldstein appears to have murdered him.....watching the game live I felt McEvoy had greater impact.....I may have to use 2 eyes from now on...
herald sun had McEvoy with 25 hit outs (28% to adv), which means 7 hit outs to adv. Goldstein had 47 hit outs (17% to adv), which means 8 hit outs to adv. so they basically split that. Big Ben beat Goldstein in stats around the ground, Goldstein kicked a goal. pretty even result. wouldn't mind both of them.


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Post: # 1100526Post Legendary »

To further show his improvement ...

In 2010, McEvoy averaged 11 hitouts per game from 19 games (playing mostly second ruck to Gardiner).

In 2011, McEvoy is averaging 23 hitouts per game (playing as #1 ruck). This is more than the 17 hitouts per game that Gardiner averaged last year.


In his first 5 games in 2011, McEvoy averaged 18 hitouts per game.
In his most recent 7 games, he is averaging 26 hitouts per game.


There is absolutely no doubt that his ruckwork has improved dramatically since last year, and improved considerably since his first few games this year.


So far this season, McEvoy has the highest number of hitouts per game of any ruckman to play for St Kilda since Peter Everitt in 2001.


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Post: # 1102952Post Legendary »

Today against Port he won 40 hitouts to 25, and directly caused clearances that led to at least two St Kilda goals that I counted ...

He also had 9 tackles, or 12% of the team total.

The statistics don't lie. This is the best season we have seen from a ruckman at the Saints since Spider


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Post: # 1102954Post SainterK »

Great effort, will be nice to see him get some support and have him rotate through the forward line at times.


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Legendary wrote:
In his most recent 7 games, he is averaging 26 hitouts per game.


There is absolutely no doubt that his ruckwork has improved dramatically since last year, and improved considerably since his first few games this year.


So far this season, McEvoy has the highest number of hitouts per game of any ruckman to play for St Kilda since Peter Everitt in 2001.

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Post: # 1102958Post Old Mate »

I reckon Steven King has done great things with him since becoming our ruck coach.


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Post: # 1102960Post gringo »

I loved that clearance he got himself and pumped it forward for a Saints goal.
I compared him long term to Dean Cox a while ago and think it may not be that far away now. We will see how close next week.


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Post: # 1102961Post dcstkfc »

How beautiful was his tap-down to Joey that ended with a goal in the first two minutes?


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Post: # 1102965Post savatage »

dcstkfc wrote:How beautiful was his tap-down to Joey that ended with a goal in the first two minutes?
That was an inspiring tap! Set the scene really!


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Old Mate wrote:I reckon Steven King has done great things with him since becoming our ruck coach.
No doubt having King and Gardi as his on and off field mentors has helped, and will help in the future.

If only we could say the same about Stanley.

Oh well, there's still time!


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