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Post: # 1098804Post Dan Warna »

Name a better small forward in the competition on current or career form.

I'd be struggling to name many. 25 goals from 13 games, 1 down on his career average. on the same standard as Mark LeCras.

Players ahead of him are Buddy, Jack, Kenneday, Cloke, Wlaker, Garlett, Jurrah, Petrie and Pods

A few small forwards have scored a few more goals than him, he's joint 10th on the ladder for goals scored, his career is about 250 games for 500 goals.

he does go missing, but not as often as many others.

I would argue he is one of the great small forwards of st kilda and when he retires will be remembered as one of the great small forwards of AFL.

His highlights reel would be comparable with any in the competition.

Enough of the Milne hatred IMO. He's a quality unit, a saints man, and a loyal player who we know has turned down offers from Fremantle and essendon that we know off, for staying at st kilda for less money.


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Post: # 1098813Post kosifantutti23 »

Don't you know? Cyril Rioli is the best small forward the world has ever seen.


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Post: # 1098817Post mullet »

kosifantutti23 wrote:Don't you know? Cyril Rioli is the best small forward the world has ever seen.
when he actually plays :wink:


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Post: # 1098826Post sRaf »

Well, I'd say Garlett is ahead of him on current form, but that's not taking anything away from Milne.

Milne, like Reiwoldt is no doubt heavily planned for week in week out, more so than most small forwards, simply because if let loose he has the potential to tear games apart. He'll be remembered as one of the best small forwards in history. He still performs for us after all these years and can kick a bag.


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Post: # 1098833Post Dan Warna »

Rioli, 64 games for 72 goals., He's going at 1.3 goals per game in 2011.


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Post: # 1098836Post The Fireman »

we often say we would be stuffed without Lenny...(well we are ;)) or Goddard or Sammy....well you can throw Mliney into that mix.


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Post: # 1098840Post mr six o'clock »

kosifantutti23 wrote:Don't you know? Cyril Rioli is the best small forward the world has ever seen.
HI saintas , its bruce hear , I love milney , he's Speecciaalll , but lets face it , he'll never be as DELICIOUS as cyril


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sRaf wrote:Well, I'd say Garlett is ahead of him on current form, but that's not taking anything away from Milne.

Milne, like Reiwoldt is no doubt heavily planned for week in week out, more so than most small forwards, simply because if let loose he has the potential to tear games apart. He'll be remembered as one of the best small forwards in history. He still performs for us after all these years and can kick a bag.
yes, there a few small forwards who have scored more than him in 2011, 2 i think? garlett and Jurrah. I would say that is as much to do with our style as the opposition players and their styles. if you could get the 3rd best small forward on form every week, you'd take it?

lets now throw in how long milne has been doing it, and compare to those who have 1 or 2 good seasons.


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Dan Warna wrote:
sRaf wrote:Well, I'd say Garlett is ahead of him on current form, but that's not taking anything away from Milne.

Milne, like Reiwoldt is no doubt heavily planned for week in week out, more so than most small forwards, simply because if let loose he has the potential to tear games apart. He'll be remembered as one of the best small forwards in history. He still performs for us after all these years and can kick a bag.
yes, there a few small forwards who have scored more than him in 2011, 2 i think? garlett and Jurrah. I would say that is as much to do with our style as the opposition players and their styles. if you could get the 3rd best small forward on form every week, you'd take it?

lets now throw in how long milne has been doing it, and compare to those who have 1 or 2 good seasons.
That's the thing.
So many players come and have a couple awesome years as a small forward, and then drop off and become average.

Milne has been doing it consistently for 10 years, last player to have that sort of record from what i can remember is Phil Matera, and he only played 180 games.


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Post: # 1098870Post Dan Warna »

the diff between matera (who averaged 2.5 goals per game) was he was their 'go to' forward for much of his career.

Milne has been the no.2, no.3 or crumbing forward for almost all his career.

His average has dropped marginally as he is expected to contribute up the field under RL than just cadging goals as he did at the start of his career.

His % of our total goals has gone up though under RLs game plan.

Kicking 2.1 when we were kicking 15 to 20 goals was solid, now he's kicking 2.0 out of 10 to 12 goals.

ANd people want to trade him for an oily rag.


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Dan Warna wrote:Name a better small forward in the competition on current or career form....
As I have said before, he is the best I have seen, and that's from 1960. He even got a free today (ump will be dropped).


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An all time great....


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Post: # 1099203Post Winmar »

He's been excellent over a long period of time. It's one of the hardest roles to play, and he's a pretty consistent performer.


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Waiting for Mike Sheahan's '50 small forwards better than Milne'.


no.1: Medhurst


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perfectionist wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:Name a better small forward in the competition on current or career form....
As I have said before, he is the best I have seen, and that's from 1960. He even got a free today (ump will be dropped).
Absolutely agree. He's the best there's been at least since the '60s and one of the greatest the game has ever seen.


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SteveStevens66 wrote:
perfectionist wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:Name a better small forward in the competition on current or career form....
As I have said before, he is the best I have seen, and that's from 1960. He even got a free today (ump will be dropped).
Absolutely agree. He's the best there's been at least since the '60s and one of the greatest the game has ever seen.
Interestingly he's only 3cms shorter than Doc, who played CHF, so I suppose one could ask the question of what is the definition of a 'small forward' in today's game.

When Doc played it was probably the specialist Forward Pocket (normally a resting rover) that we are talking about.

What was Leigh Matthews considered to be when he played in Hawthorn's forward line?
A resting rover or a permanent small full forward?


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Mr Magic wrote:
SteveStevens66 wrote:
perfectionist wrote:
Dan Warna wrote:Name a better small forward in the competition on current or career form....
As I have said before, he is the best I have seen, and that's from 1960. He even got a free today (ump will be dropped).
Absolutely agree. He's the best there's been at least since the '60s and one of the greatest the game has ever seen.
Interestingly he's only 3cms shorter than Doc, who played CHF, so I suppose one could ask the question of what is the definition of a 'small forward' in today's game.

When Doc played it was probably the specialist Forward Pocket (normally a resting rover) that we are talking about.

What was Leigh Matthews considered to be when he played in Hawthorn's forward line?
A resting rover or a permanent small full forward?
True, but Doc was very short at CHF even by the day's standards.

He just happened to be a freak :)


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Post: # 1099271Post Dan Warna »

Lenny is about 186 and goddard is about 189 cm I think.

Thats the same height range as KPP in the late/mid 80s.

spud was 191 cm and plugger was 191 cm....

they were giants of the game, physically as well as by reputation.


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Post: # 1099273Post Mr Magic »

Dan Warna wrote:Lenny is about 186 and goddard is about 189 cm I think.

Thats the same height range as KPP in the late/mid 80s.

spud was 191 cm and plugger was 191 cm....

they were giants of the game, physically as well as by reputation.
Hasn't the game changed! :)


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Post: # 1099276Post Dan Warna »

Yeah, we there is far more run in the game now IMO. You'd never see spud leave the 50m arc, now defenders have much more massive engines.

There are far fewer gorillas like spud in the game these day.

Jees I think even the toughest forwards cringed when spud lined up against them, and he wasn't afraid of anybody either, copped it as well as dished it.

I think he was made of bricks.

That said, Modra got a bath from spud one day, when SOS couldn't keep up with him 2 weeks later.


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Dan Warna wrote:Yeah, we there is far more run in the game now IMO. You'd never see spud leave the 50m arc, now defenders have much more massive engines.

There are far fewer gorillas like spud in the game these day.

Jees I think even the toughest forwards cringed when spud lined up against them, and he wasn't afraid of anybody either, copped it as well as dished it.

I think he was made of bricks.

That said, Modra got a bath from spud one day, when SOS couldn't keep up with him 2 weeks later.
But Dermie left him 'face-down' on the MCG turf one day! :)


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Post: # 1099288Post Dan Warna »

Dermie, one day at moorabbin, picked up Shanahan and gave him a slow mo pile-driver, dermie was strong.

That said, regardless, spud had no fear.


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Post: # 1099296Post Mr Magic »

Dan Warna wrote:Dermie, one day at moorabbin, picked up Shanahan and gave him a slow mo pile-driver, dermie was strong.

That said, regardless, spud had no fear.
Well the one that knocked him out from Dermie was well behind the play and unseen by Spud.

I agree, he was a really tough and inspirational individual.

But not as tough a full back as Cowboy!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)


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Mr Magic wrote:What was Leigh Matthews considered to be when he played in Hawthorn's forward line?
A resting rover or a permanent small full forward?
Played a season at ff I think and kicked 97. He might have been short, but he was wide. Like a midget Tony Lockett ... massive across the shoulders and a very strong mark who used his body well. Also like Lockett, a lethal kick for goal.

Matter of fact, the best player I've seen ... with the exception of Lockett.


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Post: # 1099332Post Junction Oval »

I was at ground level in the forward pocket last night.

Whenever the ball came down, North were hanging off Milney all the time.
He couldn't take his first step without being held or scragged in some way and by much bigger bodies than him. :x


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