Football Evolves..(Hawthorn)

murray 66 · Post: # 1095511Post **murray 66** » Sat 25 Jun 2011 9:08pm

Due to injury Hawthorn were forced to make lots of team changes against Essendon and expose kids sooner rather then later .
Names like Bruest,Paolo,Smith ect....... would not be house hold names at Hawthorn ,but now have shown their supporters that Football evolves and their is life after Lewis,Mitchelland Bateman.................
My point is a Name is a nobody until exposure and a reputation is built where supporters can adore and their kids can idolise.
The Locketts and the Harveys have been idolised by us Saints supporters and are club greats,but until they were given a opportunity none of us would have heard of them.
I remember when Aussie ,Joel Smith and Tony Brown debuted and set the pr-season alight ,it gave me hope and new players to watch out for in the up coming season,Iwas excited and pumped.

Ross please play the kids for more of a sustained period and cull the deadwood....................

Thoughts.

Megsie · Post: # 1095516Post **Megsie** » Sat 25 Jun 2011 9:26pm

think you'll find those hawthorn guys have been around the club for 3yrs.

Have bigger stronger bodies than our 1st yr players. Do you want them

smashed each week physically & mentally.

murray 66 · Post: # 1095520Post **murray 66** » Sat 25 Jun 2011 9:38pm

Hasn't Staney,lynch,heyne,smith ect..... been around 2 yrs or longer.
Point is as I stated in my post Sustained period being the key words?

chook23 · Post: # 1095521Post **chook23** » Sat 25 Jun 2011 9:42pm

murray 66 wrote:Hasn't Staney,lynch,heyne,smith ect..... been around 2 yrs or longer.
Point is as I stated in my post Sustained period being the key words?

But they must have the ability as well....and ability(or demand) to hold their place....

saintbrat · Post: # 1095524Post **saintbrat** » Sat 25 Jun 2011 9:46pm

Clarkson said on radio today they have been at the club 3-4 years
the guys who have been at the saints 3-4 years are armo and geary and steven and Mcevoy

and where are they?

Pies ' new guys' on the whole are also 2-4 year players
as i said some weeks ago when we played the lions commentators raved abut the 'new' Lion ruckman- who happened to be 2 1/2 years older than Ben

there are 'young' and then there are ' new' and then there are kids...

Smith, Heyne, STanley, Johnson are second year saints
Walsh, Cahill, Archer, are ROOKIES- which we are accused of not having.

ps - isn't this the umpteenth post on ' play the young guys' in the last fortnight

Dr Spaceman · Sat 25 Jun 2011 9:54pm

saintbrat wrote:Clarkson said on radio today they have been at the club 3-4 years
the guys who have been at the saints 3-4 years are armo and geary and steven and Mcevoy

and where are they?

Pies ' new guys' on the whole are also 2-4 year players
as i said some weeks ago when we played the lions commentators raved abut the 'new' Lion ruckman- who happened to be 2 1/2 years older than Ben

there are 'young' and then there are ' new' and then there are kids...

Smith, Heyne, STanley, Johnson are second year saints

Walsh, Cahill, Archer, are ROOKIES- which we are accused of not having.

Smith, Heyne and Stanley are all third year Saints, as is Tom Lynch.

saintbrat · Sat 25 Jun 2011 10:01pm

k - thanks Dr

murray 66 · Sat 25 Jun 2011 10:03pm

No doubt the hawks players would not being given the opportunity unless they weren't ravaged by injury,but as I said it gives the Hawks fans hope and it may give Clarkson some selection headaches when all the the big names are available for selection.Good situation to be in I think.

Teflon · Post: # 1095545Post **Teflon** » Sat 25 Jun 2011 10:37pm

IF Heyne is a 3rd year player he has shown squat Im afraid.

bobmurray · Sat 25 Jun 2011 11:01pm

saintbrat wrote:Clarkson said on radio today they have been at the club 3-4 years
the guys who have been at the saints 3-4 years are armo and geary and steven and Mcevoy

and where are they?

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3 of them are in the team and the other couldn't hit the side of a barn by foot 1 meter out....

BigMart · Post: # 1095606Post **BigMart** » Sun 26 Jun 2011 12:09am

Hawthorn had 3 2010 draftees playng.....so they couldnt have been there three 3 years

spert · Post: # 1095662Post **spert** » Sun 26 Jun 2011 12:51pm

Looks pretty much like the Hawks, Cats and Pies have done a much better job than the Saints in identifying the kind of players they need and then developing those players. Our recruiting and development looks very hit-and-miss in comparison, and now we see the results reflected in ladder positions.

Thinline · Post: # 1095669Post **Thinline** » Sun 26 Jun 2011 1:12pm

BigMart wrote:Hawthorn had 3 2010 draftees playng.....so they couldnt have been there three 3 years

We've played a few this year too. If we had a list of injuries like theres, we'd probably be playing more at once as well.

Junction Oval · Sun 26 Jun 2011 1:16pm

Been saying this for years Spert, but nothing much changes.

We should have had plans in place to capitalise on the likes of Rooey, Kosi, Chips, Monty, Dal.

Don't want to bore you with past mistakes, but if we don't lift our game in the recruiting stakes, we will continue to reap what we so.

We should be talking with the top Hawthorn recruiter who has just left them (Pelshen) - he would seem to be a great possibility.