Buying a forward for 2012

saintjake · Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:29am

It's been said that we might look at buying a Forward to help Roo out.
But lets be honest So far we havnt been to flash with picking them i.e Watts, Gardiner, Gamble, Lynch (now a back) Heyne and Stanley nowhere.

But I want to know what forwards are out of contract at the end of this year an might be looking for a new home?

The two names I can think of are Walker and Fev. both come with negatives and positives.
anyothers?

Con Gorozidis · Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:37am

saintjake wrote:It's been said that we might look at buying a Forward to help Roo out.
But lets be honest So far we havnt been to flash with picking them i.e Watts, Gardiner, Gamble, Lynch (now a back) Heyne and Stanley nowhere.

But I want to know what forwards are out of contract at the end of this year an might be looking for a new home?

The two names I can think of are Walker and Fev. both come with negatives and positives.
anyothers?

walker is already signed and sealed with GWS.
tomahawk is available but i dont think we want him.

jmac101 · Post: # 1093381Post **jmac101** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:40am

I agree..slim pickings. Most of the quality forwards are playing for teams on the up and would be reluctant to leave.

Best bet might be a forward on the outer at their club looking for a change in scenery. Perhaps Tom Hawkins? Or Jesse White?

saintsRrising · Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:45am

jmac101 wrote:
Perhaps Tom Hawkins?

Sorry TK is a poor man's Kosi...and like Kosi is too one dimensional for how football is played today.

jmac101 · Post: # 1093385Post **jmac101** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:48am

Hmm..any jpod types kicking bags in the vfl/sanfl/wafl?

Cairnsman · Tue 21 Jun 2011 10:30am

We should be making a huge play for Charlie Dixon from the Gold Coast Suns.

He is going to be a ripper of a forward.

bergholt · Post: # 1093449Post **bergholt** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 10:46am

Cairnsman wrote:We should be making a huge play for Charlie Dixon from the Gold Coast Suns.

why would gold coast let go of him, then?

Cairnsman · Tue 21 Jun 2011 10:50am

bergholt wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:We should be making a huge play for Charlie Dixon from the Gold Coast Suns.
why would gold coast let go of him, then?

Not sure they would that's why it would have to be a 'huge play'. But Charlie would be the perfect solution to our current problem. He is somebody you could build a forward line around especially with where the game is going now with power forwards.

St Chris · Post: # 1093469Post **St Chris** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 11:27am

We've got to be realistic about this.

I can't imagine there's a hell of a lot in the salary cap, and if this year has proven anything, it's that playing as a key forward for the Saints is not fun at all.

It's all about finding excess. The 3rd tall forward at a club that is either gonna get pushed out by better and younger players, or is an up-and-comer who can't get a decent crack.

Quintin Lynch is one who comes to mind. With Darling and Kennedy around, is Lynch gonna get much game time deep forward (if that is where he wants to play)??

Essendon has the same issue with their ruckman. A few Bombers supporters I've spoken to think that Ryder will be the one to go, given he has the most value on the trade table. Could he play at CHF, with Roo in the goal square??

Jesse White was mentioned - I doubt the Swans will let him go, expecially with Bradshaw going down.

Anyone else in this boat??

St DAC · Post: # 1093496Post **St DAC** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:19pm

St Chris wrote:We've got to be realistic about this.

...

Jesse White was mentioned - I doubt the Swans will let him go, expecially with Bradshaw going down.

The same Jesse White who can't get a game for the Bradshaw-less Swans?

Not sure he's the answer ...

SaintPav · Post: # 1093500Post **SaintPav** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 12:24pm

I wish Stanley would pull a finger out and show something.

roskilde · Post: # 1093524Post **roskilde** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 1:09pm

SaintPav wrote:I wish Stanley would pull a finger out and show something.

of the talls we've recruited in recent years he is the one who most excites me, its just instinctual but i always think to myself that if he can flip some kind of switch inside he'll be very potent.

thought the same about lynch in the freo game earlier this season, im hoping we can fill this gap "in-house".

SainterSoul · Tue 21 Jun 2011 1:39pm

Should have made a play for Cloke when he was out of contact. Not that he'd probably leave Collingwood, but imagine a foward line of Cloke and Riewoldt.

Cloke has even improved his kicking this year.

With that all said, is it even possible to "buy" players these days. The salary cap is the killer.

Cairnsman · Post: # 1093548Post **Cairnsman** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 1:44pm

SainterSoul wrote:Should have made a play for Cloke when he was out of contact. Not that he'd probably leave Collingwood, but imagine a foward line of Cloke and Riewoldt.

Cloke has even improved his kicking this year.

With that all said, is it even possible to "buy" players these days. The salary cap is the killer.

mmm. I wonder if Cloke is a downhill skier. Look at all of the downhill skiers we've go that looked fantastic over the past 2 years when the team thing was working.

SainterSoul · Tue 21 Jun 2011 2:01pm

I don't think so, he is leading the contested marks for the league, so he is obviously very good one on one. Didn't he also win a B & F for them as a kid?

It's a mute point anyway, because we can't get him now.

Red · Post: # 1093586Post **Red** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 2:49pm

Buy a top shelf midfielder and use BJ as the extra forward.

dragit · Post: # 1093592Post **dragit** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 3:02pm

More Geelong rejects would be awesome,
Mooney? or we could try and turn Blake into a key forward?
What's Kent Kingsley up to these days?

Junction Oval · Tue 21 Jun 2011 3:55pm

There is a young guy playing on the forward line for the Brisbane Lions - Bryce Retzlaff - he is 195cm and has played 6 games. Looks a likely long term prospect.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1093624Post **MCG-Unit** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:01pm

Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........

Aints2010 · Post: # 1093629Post **Aints2010** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:14pm

Siposs showed something, he needs to be given another chance as does Stanley, all opposition teams would rather Goddard in backline rather than forward wouldn't they???

Gwilt is strong, fast & a penetrating kick, I would at least try him up forward for a game, we have plenty of backs that could cover him

stkildathunda · Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:17pm

MCG-Unit wrote:Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........

Sam Day is a poor mans Jack Watts but will take about another 3 years longer then Watts to have any impact on a game...

Mitch Clark could be a viable option or Patty Ryder. Can pinch hit in the ruck when Macca needs a rest. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone

St Chris · Post: # 1093634Post **St Chris** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:25pm

St DAC wrote:
St Chris wrote:We've got to be realistic about this.

...

Jesse White was mentioned - I doubt the Swans will let him go, expecially with Bradshaw going down.
The same Jesse White who can't get a game for the Bradshaw-less Swans?

Not sure he's the answer ...

He's only 23 or 24, and Goodes is getting nearer to the end too. I dont think all is lost for White at the Swans.

I didn't really mean they wouldn't let him go at all, just they have a bit of bargaining power, and will push a tough deal.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 1093641Post **MCG-Unit** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:39pm

stkildathunda wrote:
MCG-Unit wrote:Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........
Sam Day is a poor mans Jack Watts but will take about another 3 years longer then Watts to have any impact on a game...

Mitch Clark could be a viable option or Patty Ryder. Can pinch hit in the ruck when Macca needs a rest. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone

Well there you go, what I've seen of Day, only played a few games, I thought he would be ahead of Watts at the same time - more of an athlete for what it's worth... Major upside.
They have a lot of good young talls - Smith, Dixon, Gorringe, Day, Lynch and Nicholls.

Mitch Clark would be a great option - reckon he would be on the radar of GWS & the 2 WA sides if uncontracted.

Doubt Ess would let Ryder go other than a massive deal. Hille would be the one I would go for - he is not just a ruckman

(Bellchambers has re-newed his contract)

Thinline · Post: # 1093643Post **Thinline** » Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:47pm

SaintPav wrote:I wish Stanley would pull a finger out and show something.

Horrible visual if taken literally.

stkildathunda · Tue 21 Jun 2011 4:52pm

MCG-Unit wrote:
stkildathunda wrote:
MCG-Unit wrote:Maybe they could look at Jack Darling or Sam Day, don't know how they would the deal done though..........
Sam Day is a poor mans Jack Watts but will take about another 3 years longer then Watts to have any impact on a game...

Mitch Clark could be a viable option or Patty Ryder. Can pinch hit in the ruck when Macca needs a rest. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone
Well there you go, what I've seen of Day, only played a few games, I thought he would be ahead of Watts at the same time - more of an athlete for what it's worth... Major upside.
They have a lot of good young talls - Smith, Dixon, Gorringe, Day, Lynch and Nicholls.

Doubt Ess would let Ryder go other than a massive deal. Hille would be the one I would go for - he is not just a ruckman (Bellchambers has re-newed his contract)

They have said all along that he is a project player, so no disrespect to the bloke but yea if we had the time to develop him he would be worth getting...

Pretty sure Dixon is on a long term contract and worth a few $$$$ already. They signed all their young guns on long contracts pretty early.

I guess it comes down to if they go for another young forward or a established one. Depends if they think we are still a chance of a premiership in next 2 or so years...