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If we look at the Assist. coaches we had in the last couple of years it will be surprising to see that how they were Assit. The coaches we had along with Ross could have coached any team as a Senior coach.
The results we had in last few years speaks for the value of the experience we had in the box.
This year we have all relatively new & hence Ross is left alone.
I think we should look into getting some really experienced Assist. coaches.
I would suggest to look at getting guys like Dean Laidley, Choco Williams, Scott burns etc.
mohannair wrote:If we look at the Assist. coaches we had in the last couple of years it will be surprising to see that how they were Assit. The coaches we had along with Ross could have coached any team as a Senior coach.
The results we had in last few years speaks for the value of the experience we had in the box.
This year we have all relatively new & hence Ross is left alone.
I think we should look into getting some really experienced Assist. coaches.
I would suggest to look at getting guys like Dean Laidley, Choco Williams, Scott burns etc.
What are your thoughts fellow sainters?
What do you consider 'experienced'?
2 of your 3 examples are former senior coaches who were sacked/not renewed by their previous clubs.
Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
What do you base that on Bernie?
Being a senior coach isn't easy either.
Just things I've heard from people who know these things.
Of course it's easy being a head coach, you can leave the game early for some quiet time with your whiteboard.
Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
What do you base that on Bernie?
Being a senior coach isn't easy either.
Just things I've heard from people who know these things.
Of course it's easy being a head coach, you can leave the game early for some quiet time with your whiteboard.
Oh look it must be St Kilda, we are blaming the coach AGAIN
Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
What do you base that on Bernie?
Being a senior coach isn't easy either.
Just things I've heard from people who know these things.
Of course it's easy being a head coach, you can leave the game early for some quiet time with your whiteboard.
I hope those 'people' don't have aspirations of becoming senior coaches, if they can't handle being an assistant.
So who left last year directly because of Ross then
Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
What do you base that on Bernie?
Being a senior coach isn't easy either.
Just things I've heard from people who know these things.
Of course it's easy being a head coach, you can leave the game early for some quiet time with your whiteboard.
Oh look it must be St Kilda, we are blaming the coach AGAIN
Tell me who develops the game plan we are playing, which is doing great things for Roo's confidence. Who develops players with the foot skills we have.
Who sits a player on the bench for 3 quarters, who has no confidence in how he is playing but leaves a kid out of the game whom may be our future.
mohannair wrote:If we look at the Assist. coaches we had in the last couple of years it will be surprising to see that how they were Assit. The coaches we had along with Ross could have coached any team as a Senior coach.
The results we had in last few years speaks for the value of the experience we had in the box.
This year we have all relatively new & hence Ross is left alone.
I think we should look into getting some really experienced Assist. coaches.
I would suggest to look at getting guys like Dean Laidley, Choco Williams, Scott burns etc.
What are your thoughts fellow sainters?
What do you consider 'experienced'?
2 of your 3 examples are former senior coaches who were sacked/not renewed by their previous clubs.
I agree Mr. Magic, 2 of the 3 I suggested are coaches who were sacked but both of them are incredible analyser of AFL, I reckon it will be good to get at least one of them.
Also as suggested in this forum Paul Roos or MAthew Knight will also add value.
Do not get me wrong our current Asst. coaches are into their 1st & 3rd year. So they need some time to develop & all of a sudden Rossy is left alone.
defacto wrote:we should throw some serious coin at getting scott waters next year.
Not a bad idea, but can't see him leaving the Pies. That said, if Malthouse goes elsewhere, he may go with him. Think the Pies are able to pay him too much coin to go elsehwhere.
defacto wrote:we should throw some serious coin at getting scott waters next year.
Not a bad idea, but can't see him leaving the Pies. That said, if Malthouse goes elsewhere, he may go with him. Think the Pies are able to pay him too much coin to go elsehwhere.
I would also look closely at Mark Neeld. He has been Malthouse's right hand man for a number of years. With Buckley leap-frogging him next year, he might make way for Buckley to bring his own people in !!
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Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
What do you base that on Bernie?
Being a senior coach isn't easy either.
Just things I've heard from people who know these things.
Of course it's easy being a head coach, you can leave the game early for some quiet time with your whiteboard.
Oh look it must be St Kilda, we are blaming the coach AGAIN
Tell me who develops the game plan we are playing, which is doing great things for Roo's confidence. Who develops players with the foot skills we have.
Who sits a player on the bench for 3 quarters, who has no confidence in how he is playing but leaves a kid out of the game whom may be our future.
So how did he go in 08/09/10 making top 4 each time?
mohannair wrote:If we look at the Assist. coaches we had in the last couple of years it will be surprising to see that how they were Assit. The coaches we had along with Ross could have coached any team as a Senior coach.
The results we had in last few years speaks for the value of the experience we had in the box.
This year we have all relatively new & hence Ross is left alone.
I think we should look into getting some really experienced Assist. coaches.
I would suggest to look at getting guys like Dean Laidley, Choco Williams, Scott burns etc.
What are your thoughts fellow sainters?
What do you consider 'experienced'?
2 of your 3 examples are former senior coaches who were sacked/not renewed by their previous clubs.
well we lost SOS and Tudor.
With all due respect - I dont think anyone can say we replaced them adequately.
Gav Brown would have been nice.
If Ross has an issue with assistant coaches - someone on the Board needs to have the b*lls to raise the issue and give him less power as is what happened to Bomber Thompson in the famous Geelong Review of 2005.
Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
Which senior coach is easy to work with Bernard?
Matty Knights
Muffin head Connelly
Terry Wallace.
All very easy to work with - all now not AFL coaches.
Apparently Grant Thomas was a breeze to work with as well.
What a load of bollocks I would say no AFL coach would be easy to work with. Even Paul Roos would have been a prick.
Lance or James??
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Bernard Shakey wrote:Don't think Ross is the easiest head coach to work with.
What do you base that on Bernie?
Being a senior coach isn't easy either.
Just things I've heard from people who know these things.
Of course it's easy being a head coach, you can leave the game early for some quiet time with your whiteboard.
Oh look it must be St Kilda, we are blaming the coach AGAIN
Tell me who develops the game plan we are playing, which is doing great things for Roo's confidence. Who develops players with the foot skills we have.
Who sits a player on the bench for 3 quarters, who has no confidence in how he is playing but leaves a kid out of the game whom may be our future.
So how did he go in 08/09/10 making top 4 each time?
Much different situation now...Game plan, assistant coachs and older bodies to name a few.
There's no doubt that the overhaul of our WHOLE assistant coaching personnel has had a huge impact on our team this year. The loss of Silvagni and Tudor in particular, has been massive. It's very rare to see this happen, and will take a period of adjustment. We have a much more inexperienced crew supporting Ross now, and I feel that we need someone who's been around the traps (Robert Shaw, Alan Richardson, Mark Neeld) for a while to be Ross' right-hand man.
Lyon and Roos sounds a bit like the old firm...I can just hear the critics now. I think SOS and Tudor contributed a lot to our structure and player development.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
I would say no AFL coach would be easy to work with. Even Paul Roos would have been a prick.