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Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
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Re: Reserves Team
It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.
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Dont disagree on the financial aspect, but in the end you would pay anything for a better shot at a premiership wouldnt you??Dr Spaceman wrote:It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.
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Which is why the club has been considering it, and continues to look at the possibility.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Dont disagree on the financial aspect, but in the end you would pay anything for a better shot at a premiership wouldnt you??Dr Spaceman wrote:It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.
Apart from the cost there is also the question of where does the team play, which is not as simple as it may appear to be.
Don't worry FQF, it is on their agenda. May not happen of course, but it is out there
Just buy out Frankston and take them over completely.Dr Spaceman wrote:Which is why the club has been considering it, and continues to look at the possibility.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Dont disagree on the financial aspect, but in the end you would pay anything for a better shot at a premiership wouldnt you??Dr Spaceman wrote:It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.
Apart from the cost there is also the question of where does the team play, which is not as simple as it may appear to be.
Don't worry FQF, it is on their agenda. May not happen of course, but it is out there
Play as the Frankston Football Club in the VFL out of Frankston Park, have stipulations that the VFL mascot wont change, all honors ect will be retained ect. i.e. actually retain the history of the club we are about to bastardise unlike some other clubs have done (looking at you Hawthorn, Essendon ect.)
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It is a possibility if we take over an existing club and run it like a standalone reserves side.SainterSoul wrote:I thought the VFL (Schwab?) mentioned earlier this year that no other AFL stand alone reserves sides would be admitted to the competition. Something about them not wanting the competition to lose it's identity.
Therefore, I'm not sure if it's even a possibility at this point.
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Makes a lot of sence to both sides, you would have the Frankston identity, honors ect being maintained in the VFL and the St Kilda identity, honors ect. being maintained in the AFL.SainterSoul wrote:But that's just my point. I don't think the VFL want that to occur. They don't want existing teams being driven out of the VFL. That said, Frankston are crap, and taking over them might appeal to the VFL.
We gain Frankston VFL license, social facilities ect, they gain our training facilities, players, coaches, corporate contacts ect.
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Re: Reserves Team
And we have a contract with Sandy for this & next year, I think.Dr Spaceman wrote:It's been raised several times before and is absolutely true.FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:Has anybody else noted the fact that the top two teams this year have their own reserves team and arent affiliated with a VFL club?
Is the benefit of developing and playing kids in the position you want rather than where the affiliated club wants paying dividends to Collingwood and Geelong?
Should we form our own reserves team to play in the VFL next year?
The only issue is the cost of doing so; which is not unsubstantial.
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same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the byenoob wrote:not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.
Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.
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they also have to find and pay top up players...noob wrote:At least with the pies and cats everyone of their players is playing in the VFL seniors.. not the VFL reserves. So I guess their develop improves a lot quicker.
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Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.saintbrat wrote:same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the byenoob wrote:not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.
Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.
Oh when the saints go charging in!
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Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.saint tash wrote:Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.saintbrat wrote:same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the byenoob wrote:not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.
Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.
It is not about winning VFL flags.
Yet Geelong have still won 2 of them recentlyDr Spaceman wrote:Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.saint tash wrote:Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.saintbrat wrote:same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the byenoob wrote:not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.
Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.
It is not about winning VFL flags.
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Well you certainly don't knock em back if they come alongÂIce Wolf wrote:Yet Geelong have still won 2 of them recentlyDr Spaceman wrote:Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.saint tash wrote:Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year.  It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.saintbrat wrote: same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have  VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the byenoob wrote:not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.
 Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.
It is not about winning VFL flags.
When?Ice Wolf wrote:Yet Geelong have still won 2 of them recentlyDr Spaceman wrote:Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.saint tash wrote:Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.saintbrat wrote:same happens for Geelong and Collingwood- same number of byes for each and neither have VFL reserves so no match if their VFl team have the byenoob wrote:not only that the sandy reserves had a bye one week with the seniors didn't. There were some st.kilda players who missed out all together.. playing in the st.kilda 22 and sandy 1s.. surely that doesnt help either.
Pies and Cats aren't exactly starring in VFL this year.- the 'quality' is now all in the AFL.
It is not about winning VFL flags.
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Exactly, they couldn't give a shyster about ladder positions - Coll & Geel want to have players in the positions they wish to develop them in - not where the VFL club places themDr Spaceman wrote:Yep, that's the sole purpose of the exercise, to ensure correct player development.saint tash wrote:
........Collingwood and Geelong couldn't give a flog how many games their respective sides won during the year. It's purely a developmental level for both those sides where they can experiment and trial players in different areas and not be dictated to by the feeder or sister club i.e. Sandringham.
It is not about winning VFL flags.
Would be worth whatever the cost is to have a standalone reserves side.
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