Not a bad effort considering....

BigMart · Post: # 1091740Post **BigMart** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:03pm

....our skill level..

Pity, effort doesnt always gaurantee success...

matrix · Post: # 1091744Post **matrix** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:05pm

yup not bad seeing as roo cost us the game

apparently
he should be striped on the captaincy and have his pay packet quartered
then next year he should be thrown up for trade to gws for pick 45

Thinline · Post: # 1091746Post **Thinline** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:06pm

I think he should be shot.

Then eaten.

ralphsmith · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:06pm

Agreed, effort 100%!! Deserved much better, but the skills...the skills..the skills.

The skills are terrible.

busso mick · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:08pm

Thats why it is called football, not effortball. Our disposal skills are amongst the lowest in the competition.

BigMart · Post: # 1091755Post **BigMart** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:08pm

And considering

No bartel, no selwood.

bobmurray · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:09pm

You shouldn't expect a great deal with a spud forward line....

derby Street · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:11pm

ralphsmith wrote:Agreed, effort 100%!! Deserved much better, but the skills...the skills..the skills.

The skills are terrible.

Ralphy that is an understatement - it seemed such a wasted effort to outtackle them, beat them in contested possession (did we ?) and then continually give it back to them and have them burn us.

Old Mate · Post: # 1091761Post **Old Mate** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:11pm

The boys tried their guts out, just let themselves down with skills...something we really need to work on...we played an unbeaten team, with injuries but nonetheless, a team choc full of confidence and simply a better team at the moment than us. Its not like the loss to the Crows which was far more disappointing. The boys had a red hot go.

saintspremiers · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:45pm

I taped the game on One.

Perhaps I got it wrong and shouldve taped the Comedy Channel instead.

FFS 6 on the full plus numb nuts runner.

Bunch of cabbages!

saintspremiers · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:46pm

Old Mate wrote:The boys tried their guts out, just let themselves down with skills...something we really need to work on...we played an unbeaten team, with injuries but nonetheless, a team choc full of confidence and simply a better team at the moment than us. Its not like the loss to the Crows which was far more disappointing. The boys had a red hot go.

They should always try their guts out and give it their all.

That's the baseline.

Old Mate · Post: # 1091880Post **Old Mate** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:49pm

saintspremiers wrote:
Old Mate wrote:The boys tried their guts out, just let themselves down with skills...something we really need to work on...we played an unbeaten team, with injuries but nonetheless, a team choc full of confidence and simply a better team at the moment than us. Its not like the loss to the Crows which was far more disappointing. The boys had a red hot go.
They should always try their guts out and give it their all.

That's the baseline.

And your point is? I made the comment because people are questioning the boys will to win. You can't expect to win them all and all we should be asking for is that they do their best. Which they did.

bigcarl · Post: # 1091882Post **bigcarl** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:49pm

No faulting our effort, but we are way down in confidence ... and, yes, skills.

Geelong were that much more direct than us.

Instead of pissing around with little handballs and short kicks they back their teammates to win the ball and move it quickly and directly.

IMO it's a confidence thing with us and we may or may not get it back this year. Too many guys paralysed with fear about possibly taking a chance and possibly making a mistake.

Bernard Shakey · Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:50pm

BigMart wrote:And considering

No bartel, no selwood.

No Ablett.

Old Mate · Post: # 1091889Post **Old Mate** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:51pm

Yeah fair call, we're not as good as we have been in recent years and can not expect to win every game. Only losses in the past 5 weeks have been against a team unbeaten and another with only one loss to their name after 12 rounds. Fair go.

stinger · Post: # 1091893Post **stinger** » Sat 18 Jun 2011 11:53pm

Bernard Shakey wrote:
BigMart wrote:And considering

No bartel, no selwood.
No Ablett.

no lenny...and basically no joey....evens out imhfo....

Dr Spaceman · Sun 19 Jun 2011 12:04am

Old Mate wrote:Yeah fair call, we're not as good as we have been in recent years and can not expect to win every game. Only losses in the past 5 weeks have been against a team unbeaten and another with only one loss to their name after 12 rounds. Fair go.

The way this forum's going off you would think we just lost the unlosable game.

That's not the way the experts and gambling agencies viewed the situation pre game.

Unfortunately some poor skills errors and a few disappointing performances and suddenly some people are refusing to acknowledge what was a reasonable performance against an unbeaten, super confident team at the very top of their game.

dragit · Post: # 1091925Post **dragit** » Sun 19 Jun 2011 12:06am

I thought we were pretty good a touch unluckyâ€¦
Tried our guts out, had a few rough calls and the runner incident,
They just had a bit more class when finishing, our skills are looking ordinary,
I thought we would go down by about 6 goals so 4.5 is ok in my bookâ€¦
Bartel went down very early, but really we had around the same output from Montagna,
Peake, Jones, Dawson, Dempster and Kosi were very goodâ€¦ (+ fisher & dal as usual)
Gamble not up to itâ€¦
Gram needs more time in the 2'sâ€¦
Why don't they move Riewoldt around earlier?
Why did they try Raph as the sub again?
We now have to have a good look at Walsh in the 1's,
Any risk of having Armitage at a few centre bounces?

That side won't be better next year, we need more games into younger guys at risk of losing, including Ledger for a whole game, [/img]

Sainternist · Sun 19 Jun 2011 12:08am

Yeah, I didn't think we were too bad, all in all.

We got out of the gate pretty well.

Just a lot of key players were no where at their best.

stinger · Post: # 1091930Post **stinger** » Sun 19 Jun 2011 12:09am

dragit wrote:I thought we were pretty good a touch unluckyâ€¦
Tried our guts out, had a few rough calls and the runner incident,
They just had a bit more class when finishing, our skills are looking ordinary,
I thought we would go down by about 6 goals so 4.5 is ok in my bookâ€¦
Bartel went down very early, but really we had around the same output from Montagna,
Peake, Jones, Dawson, Dempster and Kosi were very goodâ€¦ (+ fisher & dal as usual)
Gamble not up to itâ€¦
Gram needs more time in the 2'sâ€¦
Why don't they move Riewoldt around earlier?
Why did they try Raph as the sub again?
We now have to have a good look at Walsh in the 1's,
Any risk of having Armitage at a few centre bounces?

That side won't be better next year, we need more games into younger guys at risk of losing, including Ledger for a whole game, [/img]

all in all...a good sensible post.....hope ross reads it....

SainterK · Post: # 1092054Post **SainterK** » Sun 19 Jun 2011 12:50am

dragit wrote:Peake, Jones, Dawson, Dempster and Kosi were very goodâ€¦

Couldn't of been, they're our bottom 6.

james rose · Sun 19 Jun 2011 12:52am

SainterK wrote:
dragit wrote:Peake, Jones, Dawson, Dempster and Kosi were very goodâ€¦
Couldn't of been, they're our bottom 6.

top 6 cost us.

fingers · Post: # 1092324Post **fingers** » Sun 19 Jun 2011 6:57am

I was happy with the effort but I think the overall effort of the team looked better due to the massive effort of players like Stevens, Jones, McEvoy, Peake, Fisher. Probably some others too.

plugger66 · Post: # 1092331Post **plugger66** » Sun 19 Jun 2011 9:08am

We did ok. We are a 6-10 side now. And next year around the same. The window is shut. It is how we try to approach coming back that will be interesting.

Thinline · Post: # 1092334Post **Thinline** » Sun 19 Jun 2011 9:11am

plugger66 wrote:We did ok. We are a 6-10 side now. And next year around the same. The window is shut. It is how we try to approach coming back that will be interesting.

Agreed pretty much.

Effort great. Skills s***.

That's all there is to it.

A skilful side showing that effort would be unbeatable.