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The cost may have to involve a trade with someone on the list that has cache. I can't see anyone that other teams want that we could give up without being significantly weakened.
Non negotiables with cache
Roo, Lenny, BJ, Dal, Monty, Fish, Jimmy, Armo, Steven, Ben
Middle tier - probably not enough value
Ray, Peake, Schneids, Gram, Kosi (maybe), Dawson
Too old
Bakes, Milney, Gardy, Blake
Kids - little value yet unless part of a trade or wants to return home
Sippos, Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Archer
The rest no value
Non negotiables with cache
Roo, Lenny, BJ, Dal, Monty, Fish, Jimmy, Armo, Steven, Ben
Middle tier - probably not enough value
Ray, Peake, Schneids, Gram, Kosi (maybe), Dawson
Too old
Bakes, Milney, Gardy, Blake
Kids - little value yet unless part of a trade or wants to return home
Sippos, Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Archer
The rest no value
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
Gram and a pick?PJ wrote:The cost may have to involve a trade with someone on the list that has cache. I can't see anyone that other teams want that we could give up without being significantly weakened.
Non negotiables with cache
Roo, Lenny, BJ, Dal, Monty, Fish, Jimmy, Armo, Steven, Ben
Middle tier - probably not enough value
Ray, Peake, Schneids, Gram, Kosi (maybe), Dawson
Too old
Bakes, Milney, Gardy, Blake
Kids - little value yet unless part of a trade or wants to return home
Sippos, Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Archer
The rest no value
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It should be bleedin' obvious by now that we need a big bodied full forward who can contribute regularly with a few goals and make big contest for our smalls to feed off. Kosi a few years back sort of filled that role, but those days are clearly gone. I would almost take a punt on Fev for a couple of years, as he would be cheap and ticks a few (but not all) boxes.
I take it you didnt go to Sandy last week. Fev was a disgrace last week. He didnt tick any boxes unless they were negative ones. He refused to chance and tackle and made Tom Walsh look like Matthew Scarlett.spert wrote:It should be bleedin' obvious by now that we need a big bodied full forward who can contribute regularly with a few goals and make big contest for our smalls to feed off. Kosi a few years back sort of filled that role, but those days are clearly gone. I would almost take a punt on Fev for a couple of years, as he would be cheap and ticks a few (but not all) boxes.
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It might be better if he stays opposition...I can just hear the call nowWhy don't we recruit Tom Lynch just so we can have two of them?
Lynch picks it up across half back and goes looking to bring it in but it's cut off by Lynch who wheels around looking for a team mate, ball moves to centre half forward where Lynch recovers well from the turn over but there's no one but lynch in front of him.
I've never seen a bad St.Kilda player - that's just how they are.
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But why stop there?Tiprat44 wrote:I've got a great idea. Let's bring Gehrig out of retirement!thejiggingsaint wrote:Barry Hall (to go with Fev as twin spearheads?)![]()
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WELL if someone can contemplate getting Fevola why not Hall?
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Plugger has now made his peace with the Saints. Just whack a Guerra hairpiece on top of the old boy and plonk him in the goal square
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Maybe if we give up our first rounder we could poach Dunstall as wellDr Spaceman wrote:But why stop there?Tiprat44 wrote:I've got a great idea. Let's bring Gehrig out of retirement!thejiggingsaint wrote:Barry Hall (to go with Fev as twin spearheads?)![]()
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WELL if someone can contemplate getting Fevola why not Hall?
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Plugger has now made his peace with the Saints. Just whack a Guerra hairpiece on top of the old boy and plonk him in the goal square
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Anyone who wants Fevola is as big an idiot as he is. He would be poison and is a has been.
He did a lot for Brisbane.
If we are going hunting for a forward we need someone who will give us 100+ games.
Mind you we will have to replace Roo sometime in the next few years, so we really need two.
He did a lot for Brisbane.
If we are going hunting for a forward we need someone who will give us 100+ games.
Mind you we will have to replace Roo sometime in the next few years, so we really need two.
Except for the sanity nothing much has been lost.
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AS far as I'm concerned if we could get a quality fwd to our club there are only 4 players I wouldn't trade (highlighted)PJ wrote:The cost may have to involve a trade with someone on the list that has cache. I can't see anyone that other teams want that we could give up without being significantly weakened.
Non negotiables with cache
Roo, Lenny, BJ, Dal, Monty, Fish, Jimmy, Armo, Steven, Ben
Middle tier - probably not enough value
Ray, Peake, Schneids, Gram, Kosi (maybe), Dawson
Too old
Bakes, Milney, Gardy, Blake
Kids - little value yet unless part of a trade or wants to return home
Sippos, Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Archer
The rest no value
Lenny I love the bloke and everything that he's about, but who would want 31 yr old (probably 32 when he's back playing) coming off a knee reconstruction? He goes in the too old basket, but if someone was stupid enough to offer us a good young fwd like Kennedy for Judd, I would jump at it.
Not saying the others on your list aren't good players, but I reckon they're all replaceable - for the right deal. Roo and BJ, no way. Clubs are built around those two players. Chips is the only one who can take a mark in our backline so has to stay. Ben will likely be too valuable down the track.
The one player who you missed in the middle tier, who I reckon has the most trade value is Gilbert.
IF we were to trade for a fwd you have to give something decent up. Gilbert to me is the most obvious. Still relatively young, has played quality footy in the past, and would/could improve most teams.
I can't see any of the above scenarios happening though. Just reckon it was RL being wishful and speaking his thoughts out loud.
Think we would have a very real chance of trading gilbert for taylor walker.Moods wrote:AS far as I'm concerned if we could get a quality fwd to our club there are only 4 players I wouldn't trade (highlighted)PJ wrote:The cost may have to involve a trade with someone on the list that has cache. I can't see anyone that other teams want that we could give up without being significantly weakened.
Non negotiables with cache
Roo, Lenny, BJ, Dal, Monty, Fish, Jimmy, Armo, Steven, Ben
Middle tier - probably not enough value
Ray, Peake, Schneids, Gram, Kosi (maybe), Dawson
Too old
Bakes, Milney, Gardy, Blake
Kids - little value yet unless part of a trade or wants to return home
Sippos, Cripps, Ledger, Winmar, Archer
The rest no value
Lenny I love the bloke and everything that he's about, but who would want 31 yr old (probably 32 when he's back playing) coming off a knee reconstruction? He goes in the too old basket, but if someone was stupid enough to offer us a good young fwd like Kennedy for Judd, I would jump at it.
Not saying the others on your list aren't good players, but I reckon they're all replaceable - for the right deal. Roo and BJ, no way. Clubs are built around those two players. Chips is the only one who can take a mark in our backline so has to stay. Ben will likely be too valuable down the track.
The one player who you missed in the middle tier, who I reckon has the most trade value is Gilbert.
IF we were to trade for a fwd you have to give something decent up. Gilbert to me is the most obvious. Still relatively young, has played quality footy in the past, and would/could improve most teams.
I can't see any of the above scenarios happening though. Just reckon it was RL being wishful and speaking his thoughts out loud.
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Well 3G Saint, I dont go around calling people idiots for tossing a few left-field ideas around on a Sunday arvo. Taking a punt on Fev would cost us nothing, and even half-pissed he would probably do more than the current vacuum at FF we have had for too long. It would be an easy fix and at least give us another experienced big-body in the forward line to take the pressure off Roo, and would make contest spillages for the smalls- we could chuck him in the ruck and if he goes down, well bad luck..nothing lost. In the meantime, our recruiters could go out and get a big 100+game full forward, many of whom grown on trees and are there for the picking.3rd generation saint wrote:Anyone who wants Fevola is as big an idiot as he is. He would be poison and is a has been.
He did a lot for Brisbane.
If we are going hunting for a forward we need someone who will give us 100+ games.
Mind you we will have to replace Roo sometime in the next few years, so we really need two.
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