Gilbo & GWS - mitigation strategy

Con Gorozidis · Mon 30 May 2011 5:49pm

I hope we have learnt from the Luke Ball episode.

I hope that if Gilbo is going to GWS then we should maximise our return for him. I sure hope this means we rig the B & F voting to pump him into the top 5 to improve our compo in the draft.

Headline:

"Surpise as Gilbert finishes in Saints B & F top 5"

longtimesaint · Mon 30 May 2011 5:55pm

The last time he was interviewed he said he was very happy at the saints and not wish to move.

GrumpyOne · Post: # 1083074Post **GrumpyOne** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:01pm

longtimesaint wrote:The last time he was interviewed he said he was very happy at the saints and not wish to move.

Would you expect him to say he was totally pissed off and couldn't wait to see the back of the place?

Money changes everything.

St Chris · Post: # 1083075Post **St Chris** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:03pm

This year's B&F will go.......

1. Kosi
2. Gilbert
3. McQualter
4. Clarke
5. Eddy

Congrats to the guys above. Good luck with your future endeavors.

dragit · Post: # 1083076Post **dragit** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:04pm

IS he going?

dcstkfc · Post: # 1083079Post **dcstkfc** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:05pm

Gilbo's not the one. I'd be more worried about Goddard.

dragit · Post: # 1083081Post **dragit** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:08pm

Who runs out of contract at the end of this year?

plugger66 · Post: # 1083085Post **plugger66** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:12pm

dragit wrote:Who runs out of contract at the end of this year?

Channel 10.

busso mick · Mon 30 May 2011 6:14pm

plugger66 wrote:
dragit wrote:Who runs out of contract at the end of this year?
Channel 10.

I'll pay that P66

stinger · Post: # 1083095Post **stinger** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:25pm

bj's not going anywhere....and despite what some posters say....money is not f****** everything....

Armoooo · Post: # 1083100Post **Armoooo** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:31pm

Gilbo is definitely the biggest concern... If Goddard is going anywhere it wont be at the end of this season, it will be at the end of the next, it would be a gamble for GWS to make a deal with Goddard two years before they pick him up.

I must agree though if Gilbert is going we must have him finish second in the best and fairest, I really don't like the idea of tainting our best and fairest trophy but we need to get a first rounder for him.

plugger66 · Post: # 1083103Post **plugger66** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:34pm

Armoooo wrote:Gilbo is definitely the biggest concern... If Goddard is going anywhere it wont be at the end of this season, it will be at the end of the next, it would be a gamble for GWS to make a deal with Goddard two years before they pick him up.

I must agree though if Gilbert is going we must have him finish second in the best and fairest, I really don't like the idea of tainting our best and fairest trophy but we need to get a first rounder for him.

Surely the guy who started this thread was joking as hopefully you are. As if they are to completely rig a B&F just to get a better pick especially as the money they are contracted for is part of the deal as well.

stkildathunda · Mon 30 May 2011 6:35pm

dcstkfc wrote:Gilbo's not the one. I'd be more worried about Goddard.

Goddard is signed until the end of 2012.

Gilbert signed until end of 2011 back in 2009, but was he one of the guys last year that signed extensions? http://www.saints.com.au/News/NewsArtic ... fault.aspx

dragit · Post: # 1083105Post **dragit** » Mon 30 May 2011 6:38pm

stkildathunda wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:Gilbo's not the one. I'd be more worried about Goddard.
Goddard is signed until the end of 2012.

Gilbert signed until end of 2011 back in 2009, but was he one of the guys last year that signed extensions? http://www.saints.com.au/News/NewsArtic ... fault.aspx

"â€¦and signed on at least until the end of 2011."
surely it is either the end of 2011 or another year?

stkildathunda · Mon 30 May 2011 6:40pm

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-pre ... 5923299863

St Kilda have confirmed the bulk re-signing of 14 players, most of which had already been made public.

Nick Dal Santo is tied up until the end of 2013, Lenny Hayes, Justin Koschitzke, Jason Gram, Adam Schneider, James Gwilt, Leigh Montagna and Brendon Goddard until 2012 and Jason Blake and Steven Baker for 2011.

Youngsters Ben McEvoy, Rhys Stanley, Jack Steven and Alistair Smith have also signed new deals.

So makes it Baker, Blake, Gilbert that we know off. Didnt Armitage only sign a 1 year deal?

Issue could be next year as GWS can get out of contract players in 2011 & 2012

Stillwaiting · Mon 30 May 2011 6:49pm

Where is the sugestions that bj is going to be traded coming from, that would be madness, I can understand that there could be rumors about Gilbo after the preseason nonsense, but I don't want h going anywhere either

Megsie · Post: # 1083125Post **Megsie** » Mon 30 May 2011 7:38pm

BJ will be our next captain.

Con Gorozidis · Mon 30 May 2011 7:41pm

dragit wrote:IS he going?

I genuinely have no idea. I just said IF he goes.

I do know he has not signed with us for 2012. So you know...

Con Gorozidis · Mon 30 May 2011 7:45pm

plugger66 wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Gilbo is definitely the biggest concern... If Goddard is going anywhere it wont be at the end of this season, it will be at the end of the next, it would be a gamble for GWS to make a deal with Goddard two years before they pick him up.

I must agree though if Gilbert is going we must have him finish second in the best and fairest, I really don't like the idea of tainting our best and fairest trophy but we need to get a first rounder for him.
Surely the guy who started this thread was joking as hopefully you are. As if they are to completely rig a B&F just to get a better pick especially as the money they are contracted for is part of the deal as well.

How predictable plugger potting me. You probably also supported our stance getting nothing for Ball in the name of some abstract concept that Ive already forgotten?

Im dead serious. We know the rules and we know the system and yes we should bend it to suit ourselves. Thats the point of the thread. That there is no room for taking the moral high ground as it gets you nowhere in footy.
We took the moral high ground on Ball and for what end?

plugger66 · Post: # 1083133Post **plugger66** » Mon 30 May 2011 7:53pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Gilbo is definitely the biggest concern... If Goddard is going anywhere it wont be at the end of this season, it will be at the end of the next, it would be a gamble for GWS to make a deal with Goddard two years before they pick him up.

I must agree though if Gilbert is going we must have him finish second in the best and fairest, I really don't like the idea of tainting our best and fairest trophy but we need to get a first rounder for him.
Surely the guy who started this thread was joking as hopefully you are. As if they are to completely rig a B&F just to get a better pick especially as the money they are contracted for is part of the deal as well.

How predictable plugger potting me. You probably also supported our stance getting nothing for Ball in the name of some abstract concept that Ive already forgotten?

Im dead serious. We know the rules and we know the system and yes we should bend it to suit ourselves. Thats the point of the thread. That there is no room for taking the moral high ground as it gets you nowhere in footy.
We took the moral high ground on Ball and for what end?

I didnt support getting nothing for Ball. Stupid if you ask me but that is completely different to what you are saying. You are saying stuff other players who have contracts based on where they finish in the B&F and give Gilbo a pay rise by cheating and making him come top 5 in the B&F. Why not just make him win it. If you are going to say stuff the players you may as well go the whole way. There is such thing as integrity. And yes I have potted you for this because I obviously thought it was joke. Who wouldnt. And I potted you for also thinking we could lose every game this year and then magically win the flag next year. Luckily the club didnt see it your way in the last 2 weeks.

clarky449 · Post: # 1083134Post **clarky449** » Mon 30 May 2011 7:54pm

Bend the BnF count. Oh God

Football nutters at its finest.

Moods · Post: # 1083137Post **Moods** » Mon 30 May 2011 7:55pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Armoooo wrote:Gilbo is definitely the biggest concern... If Goddard is going anywhere it wont be at the end of this season, it will be at the end of the next, it would be a gamble for GWS to make a deal with Goddard two years before they pick him up.

I must agree though if Gilbert is going we must have him finish second in the best and fairest, I really don't like the idea of tainting our best and fairest trophy but we need to get a first rounder for him.
Surely the guy who started this thread was joking as hopefully you are. As if they are to completely rig a B&F just to get a better pick especially as the money they are contracted for is part of the deal as well.

How predictable plugger potting me. You probably also supported our stance getting nothing for Ball in the name of some abstract concept that Ive already forgotten?

Im dead serious. We know the rules and we know the system and yes we should bend it to suit ourselves. Thats the point of the thread. That there is no room for taking the moral high ground as it gets you nowhere in footy.
We took the moral high ground on Ball and for what end?

My God you actually ARE serious

Don't worry about the integrity of our B&F and what it actually means to place in it - to the players, and our supporters.

Come on Con, has it really come to this? As a club are we really that desperate? Maybe we should see about bribing the AA selectors as well, that's pretty coveted. hmmmm how are we going to get to those pesky umpires though and rig the brownlow?

Thinline · Post: # 1083169Post **Thinline** » Mon 30 May 2011 9:23pm

It seems like just yesterday people were calling for Gilbo's immediate resignation on account of being stoopid.

Oh what a solid fortnight can do...

Eastern · Post: # 1083172Post **Eastern** » Mon 30 May 2011 9:27pm

I have a novel idea re Gilbo;

If we decide we want to keep him on our list beyond 2011 how about we go about convincing him that his future is with us !!

matrix · Post: # 1083232Post **matrix** » Tue 31 May 2011 12:22am

yeah thunda
i reckon armo signed for a year