Why did Joel Smith leave?

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Post: # 1080024Post saint66au »

Didnt Smith make AA with the Hawks also?


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Post: # 1080040Post Enrico_Misso »

Yes he did.
As a defender.


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Post: # 1080294Post skeptic »

stinger wrote:
skeptic wrote:Also have to remember that the Saints finished in the GF with a team full of midfield stars in Harvey, Burke, Winmar, Jones, Brown, Lappin etc etc

would have been hard pressed to get back into that midfield... Hawthorn were struggling at the time
he won a best and fairest at hawthorn....and is still playing good footy today at 33 years of age....
let me try that again

as a young kid coming off a serious career threatening injury, he would have felt hard pressed to break back into the saints midfield at the time.

hence he went to a weaker team (at the time)


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Post: # 1080366Post Bernard Shakey »

skeptic wrote:
stinger wrote:
skeptic wrote:Also have to remember that the Saints finished in the GF with a team full of midfield stars in Harvey, Burke, Winmar, Jones, Brown, Lappin etc etc

would have been hard pressed to get back into that midfield... Hawthorn were struggling at the time
he won a best and fairest at hawthorn....and is still playing good footy today at 33 years of age....
let me try that again

as a young kid coming off a serious career threatening injury, he would have felt hard pressed to break back into the saints midfield at the time.

hence he went to a weaker team (at the time)
He still went for the money.


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Post: # 1080603Post skeptic »

and it was the right decision for him

if this club made the right decision, we would have got something good for him

(did we?)


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Post: # 1080604Post stinger »

skeptic wrote:and it was the right decision for him

if this club made the right decision, we would have got something good for him

(did we?)

no...he simply walked...we got 2/3rds of sfa.....


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Post: # 1080605Post plugger66 »

skeptic wrote:and it was the right decision for him

if this club made the right decision, we would have got something good for him

(did we?)
Nothing. Out of contract.


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Post: # 1080606Post Dr Spaceman »

plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:and it was the right decision for him

if this club made the right decision, we would have got something good for him

(did we?)
Nothing. Out of contract.
Yep, Hawks picked him up in the Pre Season Draft with pick 2.


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Dr Spaceman wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:and it was the right decision for him

if this club made the right decision, we would have got something good for him

(did we?)
Nothing. Out of contract.
Yep, Hawks picked him up in the Pre Season Draft with pick 2.
yep.....with shanahan going to the dees with pick 1....


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Post: # 1080771Post degruch »

stinger wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
skeptic wrote:and it was the right decision for him

if this club made the right decision, we would have got something good for him

(did we?)
Nothing. Out of contract.
Yep, Hawks picked him up in the Pre Season Draft with pick 2.
yep.....with shanahan going to the dees with pick 1....
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Post: # 1080847Post St Lenny »

Joel Smith told me that the St Kilda medicos were not confident he would play again. Saints offered him a one year contract, he didnt want to leave according to him. As I said earlier his father was his manager and got him a better contract at Hawthorn.


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Post: # 1080851Post stinger »

St Lenny wrote:Joel Smith told me that the St Kilda medicos were not confident he would play again. Saints offered him a one year contract, he didnt want to leave according to him. As I said earlier his father was his manager and got him a better contract at Hawthorn.

i would accept what you have said as the truth.....i remember his father being involved....


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Post: # 1081075Post Sainternist »

okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:


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Post: # 1081077Post dcstkfc »

Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
Gaertner :wink:


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Post: # 1081087Post defacto »

dcstkfc wrote:
Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
Gaertner :wink:
why gaertner


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defacto wrote:
dcstkfc wrote:
Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
Gaertner :wink:
why gaertner
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Post: # 1081096Post The Fireman »

Lappin anybody?


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Post: # 1081175Post SENsei »

The Fireman wrote:Lappin anybody?
Lappin got the boot didn't he? He didn't walk, from my recollection. (10 years is an awful long time)


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Post: # 1081176Post Dr Spaceman »

Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
Heath Black.

Never knew if he was coming or going :wink:


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SaintWodonga wrote:It was also reported at the time that no one from St kilda visited him in hospital and he felt not wanted, not one official or team mate!
Reminds me of the complaint that an injured Nicky Winmar made when he was left alone at VFL Park and had to find a taxi and make his own way to hospital.
The club just poo hooed his complaint.

There were some real self centred sh1ts running the club in the 1990s.
Only cared for their social life and not for the players.


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Post: # 1081236Post ace »

Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
We have got our hands on A Smith but we can't get our hands on the Ball.


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Post: # 1081237Post Mr Magic »

Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
I don't hate either of them.
Both made decisions that they obviously felt were the best option for themselves.

But IIRC Smith (or his people) never bagged the Saints and/or the coach on his way out.


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Post: # 1081273Post Sainternist »

ace wrote:
Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
We have got our hands on A Smith but we can't get our hands on the Ball.
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Sainternist wrote:okay, so we've established joel was a mercenary.

who do we hate more smith or ball? :twisted:
don't hate either....you can blame the club for losing both of them...


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Post: # 1081306Post Sainternist »

just in case of any misunderstandings, i did use the word "hate" word in jest.


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