Winmar.
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
- bigred
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 11463
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 7:39am
- Has thanked: 25 times
- Been thanked: 609 times
Winmar.
Soooo I looked for another thread.....But found none.
What did you think?
His return was pretty much as expected IMO. I did not think he was ready for a senior call up.
A litte over-awed in the first half. He spectated a bit. 9 possessions. 67% efficiency and went inside 50 a couple of times.
I hope they just keep him in the side from here on. Winmar, Cripps, Sippos, Steven....
What did you think?
His return was pretty much as expected IMO. I did not think he was ready for a senior call up.
A litte over-awed in the first half. He spectated a bit. 9 possessions. 67% efficiency and went inside 50 a couple of times.
I hope they just keep him in the side from here on. Winmar, Cripps, Sippos, Steven....
"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
- InkerSaint
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2132
- Joined: Wed 07 Jan 2009 3:06pm
Borderline. But as the Zebs have a bye it will be a bit hard to determine if someone else deserves a shot. I reckon Tom Lynch might have done some good out there. No problem with Winmar having his shot in indigenous week though.
"... You want to pose a threat to the opposition in as many ways as you can, both defensively and offensively. We've got a responsibility to explore all those possibilities - and we will."
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 268
- Joined: Tue 21 Dec 2010 3:04pm
Hope this is a joke.Moods wrote:Needs to harden up a bit - copped two hits and both times went down in a screaming heap.
Lance or James??
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, "Enough is enough." For me, that time is now. I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in <redacted>. Over the past three years, I have been subjected to a <redacted>investigation followed by <redacted> witch hunt. The toll this has taken on my family, and my work for <redacted>and on me leads me to where I am today – finished with this nonsense. (Oops just got a spontaneous errection <unredacted>)
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6043
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 5:31pm
- Location: Currumbin, Quoinslairnd
That's just dumbarse. Did he not play the game out after getting heavily whacked? What more could he do?Moods wrote:Needs to harden up a bit - copped two hits and both times went down in a screaming heap.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30089
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1233 times
He will be a outside runner for the first half of his career so no suprise he spectated a little. Thought his use of the ball was very good and nearly kicked the goal of the day.
Those two hits would have hurt, especially the first. Did well to come back on.
Those two hits would have hurt, especially the first. Did well to come back on.
FQF
loyal in the good times and bad
In richo I trust
2013 trade/draft best ever?
Billings - future brownlow medallist Longer - future best ruck
Dunstan - future captain Eli - future cult hero
Acres - future norm smith
loyal in the good times and bad
In richo I trust
2013 trade/draft best ever?
Billings - future brownlow medallist Longer - future best ruck
Dunstan - future captain Eli - future cult hero
Acres - future norm smith
-
- Club Player
- Posts: 1874
- Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 10:38pm
- Location: In a laundrette, San Francisco USA
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 54 times
What Like Davey who was looking for every excuse under the sun for being toweled up by CJ.Cairnsman wrote:I didn't like the way he layed on the ground and grimmaced.Thinline wrote:That's just dumbarse. Did he not play the game out after getting heavily whacked? What more could he do?Moods wrote:Needs to harden up a bit - copped two hits and both times went down in a screaming heap.
Hobbling around the ground, squibbing a marking contest.
Winmar got absolutely pol-axed, wouldn't mind seeing your reaction if it happened to you, most likely you wouldn't get up at all pppft !
At least the kid got up and tried to play the game out.
Not Craw, CRAW!
- Animal Enclosure
- SS Hall of Fame
- Posts: 2364
- Joined: Mon 04 Apr 2005 2:37pm
- Location: Saints Footy Central
I reckOn there's a fair likelihood that if you got hit that hard, you'd be off work for a week.Moods wrote:No It's not. Why would it be?joffaboy wrote:Hope this is a joke.Moods wrote:Needs to harden up a bit - copped two hits and both times went down in a screaming heap.
Cuz did a couple of nice things & showed he has neat disposal & can cover the ground well. Just like Cripps & Siposs he will get used to the physicality & get more of it when his body develops.
At least we have seen encouraging signs in all of our debutants this year. I'm excited at the prospects of Crocker & Ledger adding to the new generation coming through.
- Dr Spaceman
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 14102
- Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
- Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
- Has thanked: 104 times
- Been thanked: 62 times
Yep, in 2009/10 we wouldn't have even seen these blokes out there.Animal Enclosure wrote:I reckOn there's a fair likelihood that if you got hit that hard, you'd be off work for a week.Moods wrote:No It's not. Why would it be?joffaboy wrote:Hope this is a joke.Moods wrote:Needs to harden up a bit - copped two hits and both times went down in a screaming heap.
Cuz did a couple of nice things & showed he has neat disposal & can cover the ground well. Just like Cripps & Siposs he will get used to the physicality & get more of it when his body develops.
At least we have seen encouraging signs in all of our debutants this year. I'm excited at the prospects of Crocker & Ledger adding to the new generation coming through.
Now we're playing the kids early which is what a lot of us wanted. But they are just kids with kid bodies. We'll see some good things and also some things they need to work on. And they will work on those things and get better.
At the moment Cripps, Siposs, Winmar etc are built like sticks. They'll get hurt and from time to time they may not go in as hard as Lenny, Roo or Fish.Â
But that doesn't worry me one little bit.
- Junction Oval
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2867
- Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
- Been thanked: 19 times
Saw him first get crunched by Jones, I think. I winced for him, but he jumped straight up an ran on - well done I thought.
Must have had a sore ACL and we must give him the benefit of any doubt on the second "crunch."
He is taller than I thought and looked over-awaed at times, but what else would you expect. If he is not injured, a follow-up game on the big Freo ground should suit him.
I am not in favour of one week in, one week out for these new kids, unless they have a disastrous first game, which Nic did not.
Must have had a sore ACL and we must give him the benefit of any doubt on the second "crunch."
He is taller than I thought and looked over-awaed at times, but what else would you expect. If he is not injured, a follow-up game on the big Freo ground should suit him.
I am not in favour of one week in, one week out for these new kids, unless they have a disastrous first game, which Nic did not.
- Wrote for Luck
- Club Player
- Posts: 1519
- Joined: Thu 07 Jan 2010 8:33am
- Been thanked: 1 time
after what Lyon said after the game it's unlikely he'll miss next week.
he was definitely taken by the pace of the game best illustrated in a calamitous disorientation sequence ending with a handball to the opposition. But I thought he did alright and covered the ground well. Looks a footballer.
he was definitely taken by the pace of the game best illustrated in a calamitous disorientation sequence ending with a handball to the opposition. But I thought he did alright and covered the ground well. Looks a footballer.
Pills 'n' Thrills and Heartaches
- Con Gorozidis
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23532
- Joined: Thu 19 Jun 2008 4:04pm
- Has thanked: 100 times
- Been thanked: 78 times
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 4887
- Joined: Fri 05 Jun 2009 3:05pm
- Has thanked: 330 times
- Been thanked: 465 times
It's funny - cos I'm not seeing anything in our youngsters that everyone on here seems to see.
I see skinny kids not ready for AFL. I see Cripps getting himself into good position, but has poor skill and not great courage. I saw Winmar cop a standard bump and lie on the turf like he'd just been shot. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one as it may have got him in the wrong spot - BUT the tackle where he lay on the ground motionless occurred about 10 metres from where I was sitting - I thought he was dead. It was a standard AFL tackle. LIke I said, he will need to toughen up in a hurry or won't last long at this level. If his body can't withstand AFL tackling we probably shouldn't play him. It's his 2nd season so I would hope he has developed a little bit by now.
His first game so can only get better.
I see Jack Steven continuously getting caught with the ball b/c he's too slow. Was gratifying to see him win some clearances in the 2nd half - hope this is a sign of things to come, but atm don't see what the fuss is about with him. SOMEONE has to win a clearance don't they? We are getting smashed in this area for various reasons.
I see big Ben getting thrashed in the ruck and barely able to compete against the most raw of ruckman (I also see him take many good grabs, when he can make a contest)
I see Siposs not getting a lot of the ball but actually showing something when he does go near the ball, and competes well when the ball is in his area. THAT'S what I hope to see each week.
I see Armo in his 5th year trying his guts out and getting lauded for a 17 possession game where he doesn't kick a goal or set up a lot of play. Not quick or that skillful, but is apparently the future of the saints....
I see skinny kids not ready for AFL. I see Cripps getting himself into good position, but has poor skill and not great courage. I saw Winmar cop a standard bump and lie on the turf like he'd just been shot. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one as it may have got him in the wrong spot - BUT the tackle where he lay on the ground motionless occurred about 10 metres from where I was sitting - I thought he was dead. It was a standard AFL tackle. LIke I said, he will need to toughen up in a hurry or won't last long at this level. If his body can't withstand AFL tackling we probably shouldn't play him. It's his 2nd season so I would hope he has developed a little bit by now.
His first game so can only get better.
I see Jack Steven continuously getting caught with the ball b/c he's too slow. Was gratifying to see him win some clearances in the 2nd half - hope this is a sign of things to come, but atm don't see what the fuss is about with him. SOMEONE has to win a clearance don't they? We are getting smashed in this area for various reasons.
I see big Ben getting thrashed in the ruck and barely able to compete against the most raw of ruckman (I also see him take many good grabs, when he can make a contest)
I see Siposs not getting a lot of the ball but actually showing something when he does go near the ball, and competes well when the ball is in his area. THAT'S what I hope to see each week.
I see Armo in his 5th year trying his guts out and getting lauded for a 17 possession game where he doesn't kick a goal or set up a lot of play. Not quick or that skillful, but is apparently the future of the saints....