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Riewoldt to wing...
Seriously he looks like he needs it himself and god knows we actually look more dangerous with him outside fwd 50. Its time. Let him get a run at the ball.
Goddard has to go fwd and Gilbert stays down back.
Cripps, Steven, Smith got to be persisted with.
Walsh CAN NOT have worse disposal than Sam Gilbert. Needs to be promoted.
God we need a TAP RUCK absolutely changed Collingwood getting Jolley.....we desperately need one.
Goddard has to go fwd and Gilbert stays down back.
Cripps, Steven, Smith got to be persisted with.
Walsh CAN NOT have worse disposal than Sam Gilbert. Needs to be promoted.
God we need a TAP RUCK absolutely changed Collingwood getting Jolley.....we desperately need one.
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Re: Riewoldt to wing...
Abso-f******-lutely.Teflon wrote:Seriously he looks like he needs it himself and god knows we actually look more dangerous with him outside fwd 50. Its time. Let him get a run at the ball.
Goddard has to go fwd and Gilbert stays down back.
Cripps, Steven, Smith got to be persisted with.
Walsh CAN NOT have worse disposal than Sam Gilbert. Needs to be promoted.
God we need a TAP RUCK absolutely changed Collingwood getting Jolley.....we desperately need one.
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He actually looks mechanical, wooden, not smooth at all.....and confidence is gawn.ralphsmith wrote:Something has to be done, because he's been about as useful as an orange witches hat in the forwardline this year.
I can't believe we need to worry about Riewoldt now, he used to just will himself into games and stamp his authority on them.
Now he's floundering badly. Like a beached whale.
Let himroam,hunt the ball a bit.
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Re: Riewoldt to wing...
Teflon wrote:Seriously he looks like he needs it himself and god knows we actually look more dangerous with him outside fwd 50. Its time. Let him get a run at the ball.
Goddard has to go fwd and Gilbert stays down back.
Cripps, Steven, Smith got to be persisted with.
Walsh .... Needs to be promoted.
God we need a TAP RUCK absolutely changed Collingwood getting Jolley.....we desperately need one.
Worth a try for sure. We've got to find a way to kick winning scores. Only Milne looked like he had a clue tonight. Get Goddard forward.
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I agree in principle but not the wing! Can you imagine losing the midfield clearances continuously as now to have our best player sitting on the fringe of the midfiled and not at the contest? I couldnt see this benfitting us.Teflon wrote:He actually looks mechanical, wooden, not smooth at all.....and confidence is gawn.ralphsmith wrote:Something has to be done, because he's been about as useful as an orange witches hat in the forwardline this year.
I can't believe we need to worry about Riewoldt now, he used to just will himself into games and stamp his authority on them.
Now he's floundering badly. Like a beached whale.
Let himroam,hunt the ball a bit.
However, I have no problem having him at CHB at times to ensure hes in the contest and can still use his wonderful aerobic capacity to generate quality rebound thrusts.
Obviously we would need 2 -3 leading type forwards actually forward to benefit from this with Kosi in teh ruck interchanging with Big Ben right in the goals mouth.
Midfield clearances and clear winners are needed to make an effective forward line.
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
You need to protect the ball handler to increase posession efficiency
[quote="SainterK"]Sadly, we looked less predictable and more dangerous without him forward.
Yeah he is starting to look very frustrated, So why not give him a chance to tear it up somewhere else and get some confidence back. It's not like we are risking anything at this stage.
Yeah he is starting to look very frustrated, So why not give him a chance to tear it up somewhere else and get some confidence back. It's not like we are risking anything at this stage.
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I assumed that Johnson would start at FF, since that is where he's been effective at Sandringhamm but nup.suss wrote:Roo got smashed because he was played on Rutton at FF and was expected to beat him one out. It was never going to happen. He's a lead up CHF that's meant to run his opponent off his feet. What we really need is a fully fit Kosi to allow Roo to play his natural role.
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That would have made far too much sense bigcarl, don't be silly, please.bigcarl wrote:I assumed that Johnson would start at FF, since that is where he's been effective at Sandringhamm but nup.suss wrote:Roo got smashed because he was played on Rutton at FF and was expected to beat him one out. It was never going to happen. He's a lead up CHF that's meant to run his opponent off his feet. What we really need is a fully fit Kosi to allow Roo to play his natural role.
It would also have made far too much sense to have put Roo on the wing last night, especially in the first half, when the ball was in Adelaide's forward line for around 75% of the half.
Or when it became apparent that he's woefully out of form and low on confidence. Why put him on the wing to get some cheap kicks and some confidence when we can leave him up forward to be almost completely ineffective, when it does actually go up there?
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I don't know exactly the right spot to play Nick, but we've got to get him out of the forward line for more of the game. If he stays there, he's going to keep on presenting, god bless 'im, our mids will keep on targeting him, he'll keep on getting double- or triple-teamed, and we'll keep on getting murdered on the rebound.
It was a problem 5-6 years ago when we still had big Fraser. Allowing it to happen was dumb coaching then and it's dumb coaching now.
It was a problem 5-6 years ago when we still had big Fraser. Allowing it to happen was dumb coaching then and it's dumb coaching now.
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If it was 'one out' I'd back Roo anyday.suss wrote:Roo got smashed because he was played on Rutton at FF and was expected to beat him one out. It was never going to happen. He's a lead up CHF that's meant to run his opponent off his feet. What we really need is a fully fit Kosi to allow Roo to play his natural role.
But Gwilt the 'decoy tall' somehow managed to ensure he and his man were at every contest that Roo was in! So it ended up being a pack of Roo, Rutten, the extra man they were dropping back, Gwilt and Gwilt's man!
And, the most outrageous thing was that we kept kicking it to them!!
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You beat me to it Gringogringo wrote:I would give him a Kouta run on the ball when out of form. It worked at Freo when Pav was playing crap. He is big enough to break tackles and agile enough to outrun.
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As far as who will be key forward then that is another matter. The emphasis on a key forward is not as important as a few years ago, Pavlich has been running through the midfield this year and Freo have looked dangerous in their forward 50 through many non "key-forward" options. Once Richo was moved from key forward he created a real problem matchup in the middle. Its certainly worth a thought with Riewoldt's current form.
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Riewoldt doesnt have the agility of a Kouta who swooped on packs/ground balls and often took hold of the footy one handed...he's no midfielder and I wouldnt play him there.busso mick wrote:You beat me to it Gringogringo wrote:I would give him a Kouta run on the ball when out of form. It worked at Freo when Pav was playing crap. He is big enough to break tackles and agile enough to outrun.Put him in the middle and he will still attract a quality opponent but it also will give him the chance to be involved in the battle and take away the pressure he is currently under as our sole target. It will also help with the flow of the ball through the middle of the ground. Key position forward is a tough gig, it's time for Ross to show some flexibility and look after our skipper. If he can regain some confidence then it will reflect on our overall output.
As far as who will be key forward then that is another matter. The emphasis on a key forward is not as important as a few years ago, Pavlich has been running through the midfield this year and Freo have looked dangerous in their forward 50 through many non "key-forward" options. Once Richo was moved from key forward he created a real problem matchup in the middle. Its certainly worth a thought with Riewoldt's current form.
Riewoldt on a wing gives him room to roam the length pf the ground, get a lead up marking attempt at the ball and also be the lead in kick to the forward 50 - a link from defense to fwd he's played well often before.
This is the only way we'll teach dumb mids that they need to pick another fwd option and at same time force us to be less predictable.
We looked far more dangerous without Riewoldt up fwd against Crows for mine.
In 2010 when we were forced to find other scoring avenues outside Roo due to his injury we should have resisted the temptation to get him fit and simply plonk him back inside fwd 50....the team had adpated to a Roo-less fwd 50 and we simply allowed them to revert to type. Everythings easy in hindsight so lets use what we now know and make the change now.
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bigred wrote:Is it just me or does Roo look like he is not prepared to run anymore?
looked to me like he was stuffed...and couldn't run....
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