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Last weeks rising star was jasper pittard.....why does that piss me off??
I always laugh when they say you could have got this player had you kept your pick. How wouldanyone know who we would have picked next. BM you always say Howard was a waste at pick 27 or whatever he was but if we traded that pick I take it you think the club we traded to would have taken him as well.
It just further illustrates the mistake......likelyhood is that we would drafted another, even better likelyhood, a hack.....
Interesting exercise to look at all trades, and what the picks traded away have done....
Then in reverse what players have done compared to picks you traded for
Aaron Hamill vs darryl Wakelin vs Luke livingston/ sam cranage In a 3 way
Fraser Gehrig vs Daniel Kerr/David Sierakowski
Barry Hall vs Nick Dal Santo
Matty Lappin vs James Begley
Barry Brooks vs Peter Everitt Vs steven Salopek vs Joel Perry in a 4 way
Jason Gram vs Matthew Moody
Generally it all comes around about square....really its swings and roundabouts.....
We have had a couple of big losses
If we di not trading at all
Our side could have been in 2004
B: Hudghton.......S.Wakelin.......Baker
HB: J.Smith......D.Wakelin.........A.Jones
C: M.Lappin......L. Hayes.........X.Clarke
HF: S.Powell.......N.Riewoldt.......dp
F: S.Milne........B.Hall..........Dp
Int: J.Peckett.....A.Thompson........J.Koschitzke......B.Voss
Emerg...J.Blake......T.Schwarze......D.Wulf.....L.Montagna....R.Clarke......L.Fisher......M.Ferguson......J.Houlihan......C.Oliver......B.Moyle......A.Murray....M.Maguire....
Interesting exercise to look at all trades, and what the picks traded away have done....
Then in reverse what players have done compared to picks you traded for
Aaron Hamill vs darryl Wakelin vs Luke livingston/ sam cranage In a 3 way
Fraser Gehrig vs Daniel Kerr/David Sierakowski
Barry Hall vs Nick Dal Santo
Matty Lappin vs James Begley
Barry Brooks vs Peter Everitt Vs steven Salopek vs Joel Perry in a 4 way
Jason Gram vs Matthew Moody
Generally it all comes around about square....really its swings and roundabouts.....
We have had a couple of big losses
If we di not trading at all
Our side could have been in 2004
B: Hudghton.......S.Wakelin.......Baker
HB: J.Smith......D.Wakelin.........A.Jones
C: M.Lappin......L. Hayes.........X.Clarke
HF: S.Powell.......N.Riewoldt.......dp
F: S.Milne........B.Hall..........Dp
Int: J.Peckett.....A.Thompson........J.Koschitzke......B.Voss
Emerg...J.Blake......T.Schwarze......D.Wulf.....L.Montagna....R.Clarke......L.Fisher......M.Ferguson......J.Houlihan......C.Oliver......B.Moyle......A.Murray....M.Maguire....
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who is dp? dip sh!t?BigMart wrote:It just further illustrates the mistake......likelyhood is that we would drafted another, even better likelyhood, a hack.....
Interesting exercise to look at all trades, and what the picks traded away have done....
Then in reverse what players have done compared to picks you traded for
Aaron Hamill vs darryl Wakelin vs Luke livingston/ sam cranage In a 3 way
Fraser Gehrig vs Daniel Kerr/David Sierakowski
Barry Hall vs Nick Dal Santo
Matty Lappin vs James Begley
Barry Brooks vs Peter Everitt Vs steven Salopek vs Joel Perry in a 4 way
Jason Gram vs Matthew Moody
Generally it all comes around about square....really its swings and roundabouts.....
We have had a couple of big losses
If we di not trading at all
Our side could have been in 2004
B: Hudghton.......S.Wakelin.......Baker
HB: J.Smith......D.Wakelin.........A.Jones
C: M.Lappin......L. Hayes.........X.Clarke
HF: S.Powell.......N.Riewoldt.......dp
F: S.Milne........B.Hall..........Dp
Int: J.Peckett.....A.Thompson........J.Koschitzke......B.Voss
Emerg...J.Blake......T.Schwarze......D.Wulf.....L.Montagna....R.Clarke......L.Fisher......M.Ferguson......J.Houlihan......C.Oliver......B.Moyle......A.Murray....M.Maguire....
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This.Eastern wrote:Every time I read anything about Lovett I think of the character references given to/about him by James Hird, Kevin Sheedy and John Quinn !!
I hope they present as character witnesses for him.
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If he had of kicked it out on the full we could have got goddard AND wells in that draft.matrix wrote:every time i here/see wulf i think about that missed dolly lol
Can you imaginre how Wells would have developed in our mid noughties team with Harvey, Hayes, Ball, and Dal santo to feed off?
If it wasn't for Wulf we would have had three premierships by now
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Dipak Patel?SaintPav wrote:who is dp? dip sh!t?BigMart wrote:It just further illustrates the mistake......likelyhood is that we would drafted another, even better likelyhood, a hack.....
Interesting exercise to look at all trades, and what the picks traded away have done....
Then in reverse what players have done compared to picks you traded for
Aaron Hamill vs darryl Wakelin vs Luke livingston/ sam cranage In a 3 way
Fraser Gehrig vs Daniel Kerr/David Sierakowski
Barry Hall vs Nick Dal Santo
Matty Lappin vs James Begley
Barry Brooks vs Peter Everitt Vs steven Salopek vs Joel Perry in a 4 way
Jason Gram vs Matthew Moody
Generally it all comes around about square....really its swings and roundabouts.....
We have had a couple of big losses
If we di not trading at all
Our side could have been in 2004
B: Hudghton.......S.Wakelin.......Baker
HB: J.Smith......D.Wakelin.........A.Jones
C: M.Lappin......L. Hayes.........X.Clarke
HF: S.Powell.......N.Riewoldt.......dp
F: S.Milne........B.Hall..........Dp
Int: J.Peckett.....A.Thompson........J.Koschitzke......B.Voss
Emerg...J.Blake......T.Schwarze......D.Wulf.....L.Montagna....R.Clarke......L.Fisher......M.Ferguson......J.Houlihan......C.Oliver......B.Moyle......A.Murray....M.Maguire....
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Wasn't he a Key Position BackmanSaintPav wrote:Dipak Patel?SaintPav wrote:who is dp? dip sh!t?BigMart wrote:It just further illustrates the mistake......likelyhood is that we would drafted another, even better likelyhood, a hack.....
Interesting exercise to look at all trades, and what the picks traded away have done....
Then in reverse what players have done compared to picks you traded for
Aaron Hamill vs darryl Wakelin vs Luke livingston/ sam cranage In a 3 way
Fraser Gehrig vs Daniel Kerr/David Sierakowski
Barry Hall vs Nick Dal Santo
Matty Lappin vs James Begley
Barry Brooks vs Peter Everitt Vs steven Salopek vs Joel Perry in a 4 way
Jason Gram vs Matthew Moody
Generally it all comes around about square....really its swings and roundabouts.....
We have had a couple of big losses
If we di not trading at all
Our side could have been in 2004
B: Hudghton.......S.Wakelin.......Baker
HB: J.Smith......D.Wakelin.........A.Jones
C: M.Lappin......L. Hayes.........X.Clarke
HF: S.Powell.......N.Riewoldt.......dp
F: S.Milne........B.Hall..........Dp
Int: J.Peckett.....A.Thompson........J.Koschitzke......B.Voss
Emerg...J.Blake......T.Schwarze......D.Wulf.....L.Montagna....R.Clarke......L.Fisher......M.Ferguson......J.Houlihan......C.Oliver......B.Moyle......A.Murray....M.Maguire....
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Spot on.plugger66 wrote:I always laugh when they say you could have got this player had you kept your pick. How wouldanyone know who we would have picked next. BM you always say Howard was a waste at pick 27 or whatever he was but if we traded that pick I take it you think the club we traded to would have taken him as well.
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the swings and roundabouts theory peeves me off. so does the oh who cares about pittard cos maybe we would have got a hack anyway.
clearly its not an exact science. but clearly drafting and recruiting matter and have a significant effect. if not al teams would be equal all the time. clearly they arent.
fact is 17 on lovett was a crap decision. there is no indication that he wouldnt have gone through to 32 or later anyway. we still could have got him later.
also. pick 30 for ball. who knows. maybe a hack maybe a gun. dunno. but surely the odds are improved by having a pick against getting nothing?
its all about doing ur research and getting the best chance of success.
how much research went into the fergus watts pick? not much!
why did we think essendon people were reliable sources of info for us anyway? their duty was to get the highest pick they could for the bombers. which they did. did they sucker us on pick 17? i think so yes.
we probably could have used 48 or whatever on him anyhow.
clearly its not an exact science. but clearly drafting and recruiting matter and have a significant effect. if not al teams would be equal all the time. clearly they arent.
fact is 17 on lovett was a crap decision. there is no indication that he wouldnt have gone through to 32 or later anyway. we still could have got him later.
also. pick 30 for ball. who knows. maybe a hack maybe a gun. dunno. but surely the odds are improved by having a pick against getting nothing?
its all about doing ur research and getting the best chance of success.
how much research went into the fergus watts pick? not much!
why did we think essendon people were reliable sources of info for us anyway? their duty was to get the highest pick they could for the bombers. which they did. did they sucker us on pick 17? i think so yes.
we probably could have used 48 or whatever on him anyhow.
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I don't believe Wellingham was ever offerd to us for Ball. He was offered to NM for their pick #21/22 which they would have given to us to trade to Western Bulldogs for Everitt.
We apparently asked for Nathna Brown from Collingwood but they said no.
So once again 'urban myth' becomes fact in the eyes of those looking to substantiate a pov.
We didn;t enter into the trade discussions looking to unload Ball for nothing to Collingwood.
We stood our ground and got shafted by him, his management adn Collingwood.
And btw, I think the CLub always hoped/thought that Armitage would be the 'in and under' assistance for Lenny, once Ball walked.
Maybe they felt 'covered' in that position?
We apparently asked for Nathna Brown from Collingwood but they said no.
So once again 'urban myth' becomes fact in the eyes of those looking to substantiate a pov.
We didn;t enter into the trade discussions looking to unload Ball for nothing to Collingwood.
We stood our ground and got shafted by him, his management adn Collingwood.
And btw, I think the CLub always hoped/thought that Armitage would be the 'in and under' assistance for Lenny, once Ball walked.
Maybe they felt 'covered' in that position?